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Project Alice

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I'm trying the same thing now too. So far so good. It is installing. Is there a specific way to clone the drive to a real drive so then I can natively boot now that the installer check has been bypassed via Parallels?

The installation finished, no KP's. It boots super quick too. But after it boots it hangs on a grey screen with a mouse. I am able to press "CMD + opt + ESC" to pull up the force quit window. It seems like it's having an issue launching any of the base applications? Parallels is also showing the disk activity light constantly blinking.
But, it booted without panicking which is what I was hoping for at the least.
 

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PowerMac G4 MDD

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Unlike the last several releases of MacOS... I would actually like Mojave on my 5,1. My R9 280X took a crap recently (either that or the external PSU is dying; I haven't taken the time to thoroughly investigate) so I'm back on the HD5870. If my GPU needs replacing, I would definitely be interested in getting Mojave and keeping this system for years to come.


I feel the same way: I skipped High Sierra on my 4,1. I'm currently on Sierra, and I will gladly do a fresh installation of Mojave, in the Fall.
 

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The installation finished, no KP's. It boots super quick too. But after it boots it hangs on a grey screen with a mouse. I am able to press "CMD + opt + ESC" to pull up the force quit window. It seems like it's having an issue launching any of the base applications? Parallels is also showing the disk activity light constantly blinking.
But, it booted without panicking which is what I was hoping for at the least.

I am having the exact same behavior. Using Mac Pro 5,1 2010 with Metal Graphics Card and latest version of Parallels Home 13. I am going to try and clone over to a real disk and natively boot to see if I get any different behavior.
 
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Project Alice

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I am having the exact same behavior. Using Mac Pro 5,1 2010 with Metal Graphics Card and latest version of Parallels Home 13. I am going to try and clone over to a real disk and natively boot to see if I get any different behavior.

Interesting, that must be an incompatibility with Parallels. I'll try it natively as well, tomorrow probably. I'll have to pull the GT740 out of the computer its in and I'm already up later than I should be.
 
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abcdefg12345

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How do you guys download 10.14, I have a developer account but it wouldn't download because I have an unsupported Mac, I tried fetchMacOS but it just downloaded unpackaged files.

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foxlet

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How do you guys download 10.14, I have a developer account but it wouldn't download because I have an unsupported Mac, I tried fetchMacOS but it just downloaded unpackaged files.

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If you want a simple recipe to install on another partition (without using a flash drive):
  1. Make a new HFS+ or APFS partition with Disk Utility
  2. Open Terminal.app
  3. cd "/path/to/macOS Install Data"
  4. pkgutil --expand InstallESDDmg.pkg InstallESD/
  5. open InstallESD/InstallESD.dmg
  6. Go to the newly mounted InstallESD disk in Finder, then to the Packages folder
  7. Copy Core.pkg, EmbeddedOSFirmware.pkg, FirmwareUpdate.pkg, OSInstall.mpkg, and SecureBoot.pkg to a folder on your hard drive.
  8. Patch out compatibility checks in OSInstall.mpkg (or use the attached copy)
  9. Double-click on OSInstall.mpkg, choose your blank partition, and install OS X.
 

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AwlsomeAlex

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If you have homebrew, install binwalk with "brew install binwalk" and run that on the chunklist. If you could post a copy of the chunklist somewhere I could try and reverse it, because I don't have a macOS install anymore - I'm 100% linux now.

If I were to go Linux after we’ve tried all options and can’t get Mojave on my MacBook Pro, would there be any way of going back to macOS after that point? I planned on squeezing a few more valuable years out of it after I get my new MacBook Pro (Waiting for the 8th Gen 4 cores. :))
 
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impreza233

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If I were to go Linux after we’ve tried all options and can’t get Mojave on my MacBook Pro, would there be any way of going back to macOS after that point? I planned on squeezing a few more valuable years out of it after I get my new MacBook Pro (Waiting for the 8th Gen 4 cores. :))
Yes. Go to Internet Recovery (cmd + alt + R at the startup chime) and reinstall High Sierra from there. Also it would be useful if Mojave works and you don't like it.
 
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Czo

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It's seems to me, that Marzipan/UIKit based apps showing only an empty window when running without GPU drivers. This telling me that, UIKit based apps are running Metal exclusive.
 
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AwlsomeAlex

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It's seems to me, that Marzipan/UIKit based apps showing only an empty window when running without GPU drivers. This telling me that, UIKit based apps are running Metal exclusive.

What applications would that be? Like do core Apple Software use UIKit? Like core applications such as System Preferences, Safari, Disk Utility, etc?

Update: Ignore what I just asked. Lol, web interfaces.
 
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homohurre123

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HomeKit, News, Stock and Voice Memos are ported apps from iOS. I would not mind not using that apps, because there are rip-offs from a mobile OS.
And wheres the Problem? Especially Home adds Functionality to the Mac. And to be honest they may not have the best interface for the Mac but the Interface is still good and other companies would be proud to present such programs...
If it ends with other Companies who wouldn't add their app to the Mac bringing native Netflix, Youtube or so we can't complain.
 
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impreza233

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And wheres the Problem? Especially Home adds Functionality to the Mac. And to be honest they may not have the best interface for the Mac but the Interface is still good and other companies would be proud to present such programs...
If it ends with other Companies who wouldn't add their app to the Mac bringing native Netflix, Youtube or so we can't complain.
The problem IMHO is that macOS is being converted into an iOS runner up, rather than a desktop and usable OS. Yes, they bring new functionality that had not been in the past, but the price is, at least, very high for long time Mac OS X users.
 

mnsiw

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I have MacBook5,1 with NVIDIA GeForce 9400M, is there any metal compatibility list on the web, just curious if it is compatible.
 
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homohurre123

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The problem IMHO is that macOS is being converted into an iOS runner up, rather than a desktop and usable OS. Yes, they bring new functionality that had not been in the past, but the price is, at least, very high for long time Mac OS X users.
I don't think this is a big problem to be honest. I see many great ways how they can integrate this in a great way. Maybe some programs like Netflix might also get an Update on IOS to be more Crossplattform usable.
At the End the only Risk there would be is that programs makers stop making Mac versions and just Port the IOS versions. But if Apple continues to evolve this possibility to Port the Programms with Simple UI changes I see a great possibility to have a ton of great Mac program who would never entered the Mac without this.

The Stacks Programm is very nice in this Aspect I think and it shows what is Possible. The Home Programm downs't look nice or mac-like but I think this would have been something to integrate into the Notification centre or to enter and revive Dashboard anyway. But still apple has clearly said they don't want to make macOS like iOS and @ this point I trust them.
 
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abcdefg12345

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Got Mojave booting on a 2011 MacBook Pro 13"... No GPU acceleration of course, but everything else seems to work no issues.

how did you get 10.14 to boot on 2011 MacBook Pro, I used a virtual machine and installed the InstallESD.pkg on an external hard drive, then tried booting and it shows blank screen with a circle and a line in the middle. do I need to convert my HDD to APFS to make it work?
 
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sXpTv

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how did you get 10.14 to boot on 2011 MacBook Pro, I used a virtual machine and installed the InstallESD.pkg on an external hard drive, then tried booting and it shows blank screen with a circle and a line in the middle. do I need to convert my HDD to APFS to make it work?

Yeah, i can't get it to boot as well. It still says that the version of OS X is not supported, even though the Platform plist was edited.
 
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yangm

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This is great. I will try to get my hands on a Mojave system soon. I have one more thought: We can try to force the HD 4000 ACCELERATION kexts and .bundles BUT with the AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB.kext since they all use a shared codebase for the OpenGL/MTL accelerators (just run strings on the binary, you'll see it's called "GraphicsDrivers-Intel" or something like that...

Just to plan, this would look like this:

1) Force load AppleIntelSNBGraphicsFB.kext.
2) Rename the HD 4000 Accelerators to the HD 3000 corresponding filenames so they are loaded by the Framebuffer kext.
3) Binpatch WindowServer/Framebuffer to load MTLDriver??
4) Profit.

You mean that HD 3000 could actually run Metal? Seeing as UIkit apps require Metal to run, that would be amazing.
 
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