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I'll have to see what Apple actually announces in terms of features but I am leaning to un-enrolling my M1 MBA from the public beta and stick to the latest Sonoma. It's not that the beta experience has been bad, ai just don't want some of the rumored genAI stuff ... but will know more in a few hours
 
I am still on Monterey on my 2015 iMac. When and if they update the mac studio, I will get it unless they decide to make an iMac Pro.
 
It used to be possible to justify the Apple tax because Apple would support their devices for 7+ years vs the 3-5 years that's typical of competitors.


If the 2019 iMac is dropped, that means people who bought the iMac on August 3rd, 2020 will have received their final major update on June 5th, 2023. Not even 2.8 years of support. Below what you could reasonably expect from any of the competitors - less than 40% of the support that you used to get from Apple.
 
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I wish they would return or add the ability to have independent settings for Display Sleep and System Sleep. I like the screen turning off in 10 min of inactivity but not the system necessarily. Maybe 30 min or so. Right now it's as soon as the screen turns off in 10 min which is what I like.

Same here. I configured I hot corner to switch of the display and keep the Mac from sleeping by running caffeinate in a terminal. But I agree, this should be separate options!
 
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This is great news. If true my 2018 Intel pro will hold me over at least another year while I’m wait for the OLED Pros.
 
I’ll be pretty angry if my five year old iMac 2019 is already no longer supported. I deliberately bought a high spec model so it would last a long time. Planned obsolescence to this level is unacceptable.
You will get two more years of security updates. Monterey is still getting security updates until October or so.

Five years of OS updates (sometimes only four) and two more years of security updates is standard. They go by when the machine stopped selling, which is why the 2014 Mini is still supported, they sold it until late 2018. Monterey came out in late 2021, was replaced in late 2022 (four years after they stopped selling the 2014 Mini) and security updates end this October.

PS, Open Core Legacy Patcher can get the 2014 mini running Ventura or Sonoma, but if the application really expects Metal 2 or 3 it will crash because Metal 1 is all you get on a Haswell processor. The crash when a 2010 Mac Pro running Monterey finds out it doesn't have AVX 2 available is also notable. o_O
 
I'm still on Ventura with my 2019 iMac … and I don't feel like I've missed much not jumping to Sonoma.
I skipped Ventura on the Air as I didn't see much improvement over Monterey which was working very for me. I'm not sure Sonoma was much of an improvement either. I may skip whatever this next one is too. We'll see. I've done every other upgrade version before unless I bought something new.
 
Cant wait to 2026 to install macOS 15 lates build with all the bugs compilation sice Catalina.

It would be a super exciting bug compilation!!
 
Really surprised they are not entirely dropping Intel support at this time given that it has lasted a year longer than expected already (the PPC -> Intel transition dropped PPC fast).
 
Strange, I expected that they would continue to actively remove support for Intel Macs. Perhaps they reconsidered this decision and decided not to rush. However, I’m sure they will still surprise us with the number of features that will be limited only to Apple Silicon.
Since Intel support is deprecated anyway, it seems to me that cutting any remaining models, at least with T2s, would be arbitrary.
 
Really surprised they are not entirely dropping Intel support at this time given that it has lasted a year longer than expected already (the PPC -> Intel transition dropped PPC fast).
Apple has surprised me at how much support there is left for Intel given how abrupt the PowerPC to Intel transition was. Pleasantly surprised.
 
I honestly thought this would be the year they dropped intel

must not really be that different
Still, even if they do, they will release updates for last supported version. My wife's 2016 Macbook runs only Monterey but still receives regular bug fixes and security updates. So those machines will be fine running for couple of more years.
 
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