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Adora

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If there isn't an update in about one or two hours (this summer and winter time always confuses me) that also updates the full installer in the AppStore/Terminal from 15.1 Beta 7 to 15.2 Beta 2. I'll have to wipe my Mac and do a clean install of 15.1.

Something got very wrong here with the last OTA update.
 

Spocky

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If there isn't an update in about one or two hours (this summer and winter time always confuses me) that also updates the full installer in the AppStore/Terminal from 15.1 Beta 7 to 15.2 Beta 2. I'll have to wipe my Mac and do a clean install of 15.1.

Something got very wrong here with the last OTA update.
Maybe you'll learn eventually not to install betas.
 

dmccombs

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It's odd that MacOS got Image Playground, but not Genmoji like IOS and PadOs did (yet).

It's not a big deal to me, I just find it interesting. 🤷‍♂️
 

WilliApple

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It's odd that MacOS got Image Playground, but not Genmoji like IOS and PadOs did (yet).

It's not a big deal to me, I just find it interesting. 🤷‍♂️
Genmoji, along with mail categorization is in the code.
I found this before Apple showed off mail categorization on the iMac M4 presentation.
 

Adora

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Maybe you'll learn eventually not to install betas.

There were not many problems since 15.0 of Developer Beta 1. But now something that I can't delete is taking up more than 500GB of my internal storage and something is wrong with the Finder already since 15.1, also the AppStore is not working anymore because it can't find a specific file when I try to update or install an App.

For the updates I already found a way not to use the AppStore and I only need to reinstall TestFlight to update some app betas that are not that important.

I wanted to check all those blocked folders with the root account, but there are too much subfolders sometimes and the Finder doesn't show the sizes for those hidden folders and some other system folders. Only for single files. I don't know why, but other alternative Finder apps also do this. I think this had been always the case since I use Macs.

I also did this macOS and iOS beta testing very often. There was just a pause because I got stuck at 10.13.6 on my 2011 Mac, what didn't support anything newer. And the 2017 one got unusable last year and had never been updated to anything newer than 10.14.x. Because of health issues, I had to keep everything as it was.

I wasn't even able to send in my 2017 MBP for the keyboard issues it had almost since day one and I had several years time to do that. Then it might not have gotten this "Flexgate" too, also the battery was in good shape and died from one day to the next. Also two ports got deformed and unusable, could be only because of heat because I didn't use them very often.

A few years ago I could wipe and clean install a Mac several times a day if I wanted. But now I am sick and everything is much more exhausting.
 
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Adora

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In the 10.x versions it was possible to downgrade by just installing an older version of the same macOS/OS X major version over the installed one. Even when normally logged in. For example it was even possible to install 10.13.0 over 10.13.6.

And now I can't even install 15.1 over 15.2 because it's blocked by a downgrade message. I don't think it's just the one point now what means the same then the second in earlier versions.
 

drbill

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Not seeing it on my 2018 mini, have switched Beta updates off and back on multiple times, restarted too.
UPDATE: Sorry, see it's only available for M1 and above
 
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wslloyd

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Actually running into due same on mine, these panics are new after running betas since June. Curious if either of you have looked at the logs? Mine seems to be tied to running a time machine backup "[kalloc.type0.48]: element modified after free"
I took your hint and disconnected my Time Machine drive. No kernel panics for half a day now.
 

Adora

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I can't boot anymore while my TB4 dock with some external drives, the second display and a Sound Blaster is connected or turned on before the iMac has finished booting.
 

rstark18

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I thought I might as well try the beta on my MBA M1. I have it on my iP16PM.
After loading I went to Settings>Apple Intelligence and I don't see Image Creation like I do on the iPhone to get early access. I also don't have the Image Playground app on the Mac. Should I be seeing these?
 

rstark18

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I thought I might as well try the beta on my MBA M1. I have it on my iP16PM.
After loading I went to Settings>Apple Intelligence and I don't see Image Creation like I do on the iPhone to get early access. I also don't have the Image Playground app on the Mac. Should I be seeing these?
Update. Image Playground app appeared after a second reboot. So I assume Settings doesn't show access info?

On a different note. Can anyone create images using Siri/ChatGPT? I can do this on my iPhone completely independent of Image Playground.
 

dmccombs

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Update. Image Playground app appeared after a second reboot. So I assume Settings doesn't show access info?

On a different note. Can anyone create images using Siri/ChatGPT? I can do this on my iPhone completely independent of Image Playground.
Yes, I did these images using Siri/Chat. Nothing special, just testing the process.
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dmccombs

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Update. Image Playground app appeared after a second reboot. So I assume Settings doesn't show access info?

On a different note. Can anyone create images using Siri/ChatGPT? I can do this on my iPhone completely independent of Image Playground.
I double tapped the Command key to open Siri, then typed something like "Use chatgpt to create an image of a giraffe doing karate".

It produced the image and a text description detailing info about the image. From there you can save the image or copy it to the clipboard.
 

micky1234

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Under 15.2 beta 1, the new USB-C Magic Keyboard, Trackpad, Mouse do behave for me unusual, e.g. no TouchID, Trackpad no secondary click, no scrolling, Mouse no scrolling.

Anybody encountering the same problems?
 
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Adora

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Since 15.2 half of my main drive was blocked (almost 600GB) with non-deletable system files.

I saw this in Mac Cleaner Pro but wasn't able to access all those folders in Finder too. That only worked with the root account but it was too much listed there with so many subfolders to find the big thing.

I did some cleaning tasks with Tinker Tool System and when I deleted the four APFS Snapshots, three new appeared immediately, all those were not very big, but after I deleted those three new ones again three new appeared and one was almost 400GB big. I don't know how this happened and why Apple can't just clean it with "Manage Storage".

But now I know, I don't need things like Mac Cleaner X or Clean My Mac if they even can't do this for me.

This helps much better if there is a real problem:

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But I still can't install or update apps directly in the AppStore. There is always a file missing. I got a workaround for the updates and there was an option in here too, but I don't have any at the moment to try if it worked.
I think not because I still can't install TestFlight what I need to update some betas that won't run anymore after a certain period of time.
 

Adora

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Under 15.2 beta 1, the new USB-C Magic Keyboard, Trackpad, Mouse do behave for me unusual, e.g. no TouchID, Trackpad no secondary click, no scrolling, Mouse no scrolling.

Anybody encountering the same problems?

I only use the old keyboard with Lightning, mostly for TouchID. But everything else is also working. It's not my main keyboard, that also hasn't any problems. And the two mice I use work normally too.

Everytime I am in the macOS beta threads I wonder why there are so few people. Years ago, when I wasn't registered yet there had been much more interest.
 

Adora

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Same. Not one panic since disconnecting my Time Machine drive.

How is the drive connected, what kind of drive is it and what type of Mac? I never had any kernel panic and use many external drives.

My TimeMachine drive is at the moment a very small 4TB SSD literally (because it's so light) hanging directly on the back of the iMac.

I also used two different 8TB HDDs with external power on a TB4 Dock until recently for Time Machine. Maximum was 3 drives at once in TM.

The HDDs are now used for Carbon Copy Cloner because it works with HFS and I somehow don't like APFS, especially for HDDs.
Disks get very often corrupted, especially if you work with partitions and then they have to be completely reformatted. Also SSDs. They work, but I can't delete a partition and Disk Utility says it's corrupted.

There is also a Thunderbolt SSD that is connected to the dock in Carbon Copy Cloner that should be bootable. But it doesn't really work to boot (gets stuck at the beginning of the progress bar) and I can't use it as my main drive. It's even faster than the internal 1TB. Same problem for a "bootable" clone I created with SuperDuper, it tries but can't boot.

All in all I have 4 SSDs, 2x the same mini 4TB (USB 3.1 or 3.2 Gen2 with 10Gbit/s) without external power, 2x SSD (2+4TB) TB3 or 4 with 40 Gbit/s and two different external powered very big with included USB-Hub 8TB USB 3.0 HDDs (5GBit/s connection). Two of those drives have more than one partition. And a small 4TB USB 3.0 HDD without external power is sometime connected too. Some are connected to USB-A and some to USB-C.

I can connected them all together to my iMac M3 without any problems. Only one thing is a little annoying often a disk can't be ejected because it's still in use somehow and I don't know why. I have to click on force eject then. Or just power down the dock like I do every evening. At least self ejections don't happen very rarely now. I think that mostly happened with directly connected USB-powered older SSDs.

Normally I disconnected all drives directly after the daily backup especially the "loud" 8TB HDDs except the TimeMachine drive and the TB4 SSD for fast manual backups. Sometimes I forget it and they all are there the whole day. I have some old drives and sticks that I can connected in addition without any problems.

A second display and a SoundBlaster is also connected, the Display to Thunderbolt and the SoundBlaster to USB. Both on the Dock.

Also Two USB-Hubs, that don't need any extra power for Mouse, two Keyboards, Yubikeys etc.

I tried even tired to connect a TB3 Dock on my TB4 Dock and a TB2 Dock and USB-C Dock on one of the Docks or directly on the iMac. That really worked. At least all ports where listed in "System Information".

I also have a second TB4 dock what I wanted to use for my MBP. It needs two ports and I can connect the second TB4 dock on that one too.

I really regret buying all those Docks. Especially the TB4 ones that costed almost as much as a Mac Mini. TB4 cases for SSDs are also very expensive. I just saw yesterday Apple ist selling a 1m TB5 cable for €79. Before I thought TB3 and 4 cables are expensive, but I paid maybe a little more than 20 Euro for a 2m TB4 cable recently.


Still hoping for an update because of some annoying other problems. At least no kernel panics, only some apps are crashing sometimes and there is this AppStore issue. I am happy that most of my apps are not from the AppStore.
AdGuard is also doing strange things. But that's was already before this beta. Sometimes it just turns off and says it can't be used and I have to turn it on again several times.
 
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Adora

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I recommend this application it can fix almost any problem and the price is less than $30. It has also a separate section only for TimeMachine. I tried CleanMyMac, MacCleanerPro, Onyx and all this didn't help me with anything than just freeing a little bit space on my drive. But Onyx is free and for some problems also good.

 

Dave_O

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My Mac Mini M2 Pro experiences kernel panics caused by Time Machine. Had to disable auto backups and try manual ones. Sometimes, the manual TM backup triggers the panic right away, sometimes it seems to complete.
 

LutzRFrank

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I double tapped the Command key to open Siri, then typed something like "Use chatgpt to create an image of a giraffe doing karate".

It produced the image and a text description detailing info about the image. From there you can save the image or copy it to the clipboard.
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Here is a photorealistic image of a giraffe performing karate, captured in a natural savanna setting with its dynamic pose and attention to realistic detail. 🦒🥋


lol
 
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