Macpro 5.1 - Upgrade processors

[juliovg]

I did the next steps

1- on socket A one Xeon (i’ll call cpu 1) on socket B nothing
2- on socket A the other Xeon ( cpu 2) and on socket B nothing

Un both cases i didn’t see anything on the screen.....

Is it rigth the steps that i follow? (I understood that)

Regards

Pd: on the next image from socket B i think that is rigth....

 

[tsialex]

I did the next steps

1- on socket A one Xeon (i’ll call cpu 1) on socket B nothing
2- on socket A the other Xeon ( cpu 2) and on socket B nothing

Un both cases i didn’t see anything on the screen.....

Is it rigth the steps that i follow? (I understood that)

Regards

Pd: on the next image from socket B i think that is rigth....

If you can't boot with just one Xeon installed in socket 1, you can't diagnose the problem. Last resort is to check one of the original processors. If nothing works, your tray have damage.

Sometimes you need hours with good light, from various angles, and a good lense to find a bent pin. It's not easy.

 

[juliovg]

I put the old cpu again and the system comes.

One question about test the new one cpu’s

There is an option to using on socket A my actual 2,26 ghz quad core xeon
And on socket B the new one 3,46 ghz xeon
And change just on socket B both new cpu and find the cpu that doesn’t work?


Because i don’t understand at all your test case .... test the new cpu’s one by one just un one socket ... how i said before, the screen doesn’t receive signal. There is another option to test those cpu’s?


On the imagen you will see a picture from now with my old Cpu. With this i understand that sockets Works, rigth?

 

[tsialex]

I put the old cpu again and the system comes.

One question about test the new one cpu’s

There is an option to using on socket A my actual 2,26 ghz quad core xeon
And on socket B the new one 3,46 ghz xeon

No, must be exactly the same.

And change just on socket B both new cpu and find the cpu that doesn’t work?

No, this don’t work. If you have doubts about this is time to stop and read the service manual.

Because i don’t understand at all your test case .... test the new cpu’s one by one just un one socket ... how i said before, the screen doesn’t receive signal. There is another option to test those cpu’s?

Dual processor Mac Pro 4,1/5,1, boots with just one CPU when installed in the socket A. With this you can diagnose your processors.

If no Xeon works and your original one works, maybe both CPUs are bad or maybe your tray has a problem that makes upgraded 130W Xeons to not work, the original 2.26 are 80W TDP.

You will need to test with another tray to be sure. The seller tested it?

On the imagen you will see a picture from now with my old Cpu. With this i understand that sockets Works, rigth?

So, now you know that the sockets work, but this don't eliminate that your tray is capable of working with X5690, some just don't work with upgrade processors, some people here had this problem, use the search and read the threads.

 

[juliovg]

For the last part that you say
So probably I can’t upgrade my Mac Pro with the last cpu supported ....

 

[tsialex]

For the last part that you say
So probably I can’t upgrade my Mac Pro with the last cpu supported ....

Dual CPU MP4,1 upgrades are hell. Welcome, probably everyone had some sort of trouble.

 

[Pentaxer]

Dual CPU MP4,1 upgrades are hell. Welcome, probably everyone had some sort of trouble.

Not a problem

 

[juliovg]

At the end .... I GOT IT

Thanks for your advices

Best regards

 

[tsialex]

At the end .... I GOT IT

Thanks for your advices

Best regards

What you finally did that worked?

 

[crjackson2134]

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[juliovg]

What you finally did that worked?

I try a lot of time how you say ... first in socket A
But i think that my problem was how much thermal paste i used. after see some videos i get the two cpu works
thank a lot
[doublepost=1558382862][/doublepost]To finish this part on this forum ... i have another doubt:

some of you know that my mac pro from 2009 has those new parts (see uno.jpg image)

I try to upgrade ram memory too. I read that my actual machine ram memory could be upgraded to 128 GB. but actually i cant put more than 64 GB (see dos.jpg image)

Does any body knows if is possible to upgrade ram up to 128 GB ?

Regards

 

[flowrider]

^^^^Your RAM is not populated correctly.

Lou

 

[juliovg]

^^^^Your RAM is not populated correctly.

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Lou

Sorry but i don’t understand, can you explain me a little more ?
There a way to solve this?

Thanks

 

[axrst]

You have 3 RAM modules in processor B slot and 1 RAM module in processor A slot. You must put them equally: 2 for processor A and 2 for processor B. See the above diagram and put the RAM modules to the positions: 1, 2, 5 and 6.

EDIT:
Now, I'm thinking if you have installed 8 RAM DIMMS of 16GB each and your computer shows only the 4 of them. If is that so, the RAM modules in 1,2,3 and 5 are NOT compatible with the others OR are dammaged. You must find excatly the same DIMMS to be sure that they working good.

I had an issue that some DIMMS are not working with others. Alone were working fine each but not together. So, I did bought the same DIMMS and worked fine.

 

[juliovg]

Hello again, i'll explain my problem:

step 1 : Now i have 4 ram with 16GB , those are on slots 1,2 and 5,6, with this my system wake up and i can see the total size of ram (64 GB)

step 2 : I have 4 more ram with 2x8GB and 2x4GB if i try use those ram's on slot 3,4,7,8... and turno on my mac, the led from power light starts blinking and obviously my system, doesn't wake up.

i tried to execute Memory Slot Utility.app, after the first step, but i can...

can somebody tell me what could be wring ?

Really thanks

Regards

 

[tsialex]

Maybe you have UDIMMs mixed with RDIMMs, you can't mix them.

Search the specs of the DIMMs, see if it's RDIMM or UDIMM, use just one type.

 

[juliovg]

Those are the two models that I had...
Now is working with 64gb

But before that
Was working with 16gb and other two 4gb each one
And also was working ...

Now if I mix all .... doesn’t work

 

[axrst]

The second picture is from NON-ECC ram. You try to mix ECC and non-ECC memory so, it's not working. Apple suggests:

• PC3-10600E, 1333 MHz, DDR3 SDRAM UDIMMs
• Error-correcting code (ECC)
• 72-bit wide, 240-pin ECC modules
• 36 ICs maximum per ECC UDIMM

So, your modules are not compatible together. See this thread and go buy some other ram if you want more.

 

[koreda]

Test both CPUs, one each time, on socket A. Leave socket B empty and with heatsink removed.

Install your DIMMs on 1,2,3,4 memory sockets, nothing on 5,6,7,8.

If one of the Xeons don't boot macOS with socket A, you found the guilty one.

If both Xeons boots macOS, you should inspect the CPU tray sockets for bent/damaged pins.

Could this authorization operation also be applied to cmp5,1 MD772LL/A?

fyi: experiencing same issue after clearing away old grease, re-applying new thermal paste to both sockets

re:
Test both CPUs, one each time:

1. On socket A. Leave socket B empty and with heatsink removed.
2. Install your DIMMs on 1,2,3,4 memory sockets, nothing on 5,6,7,8.

If one of the Xeons don't boot macOS with socket A, you found the guilty one.
If both Xeons boots macOS, you should inspect the CPU tray sockets for bent/damaged pins.

Mac Pro (mid-2012) 128GB 1333Mhz RX 580 16TB RAID 5/NWR TECH mini-SAS controller​

 

[tsialex]

Could this authorization operation also be applied to cmp5,1 MD772LL/A?

fyi: experiencing same issue after clearing away old grease, re-applying new thermal paste to both sockets

re:
Test both CPUs, one each time:

1. On socket A. Leave socket B empty and with heatsink removed.
2. Install your DIMMs on 1,2,3,4 memory sockets, nothing on 5,6,7,8.

If one of the Xeons don't boot macOS with socket A, you found the guilty one.
If both Xeons boots macOS, you should inspect the CPU tray sockets for bent/damaged pins.

Mac Pro (mid-2012) 128GB 1333Mhz RX 580 16TB RAID 5/NWR TECH mini-SAS controller​

It's test to identify working Xeons valid for any MP4,1 or MP5,1. Btw, it's just a test, not authorisation or anything.

 

[Mic-M4c]