MP 1,1-5,1 MacPro5,1: BootROM thread | 144.0.0.0.0

[tsialex]

Could this be that Apple is try to get rid of all the 4,1 MacPro users who have flashed to a 5,1 firmware ?

If Apple wanted to block 2009 Mac Pros, they could implement a SMC check and every 2009 would be detected without error from day one, since they never did this…

Or are these failures also happening on 5,1 Mac Pro users.. ?

Yes, but a lot less than with 2009 ones.
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I am thinking, all 5,1 now in the vantage list should means there will be no more firmware update. Isn't it?

If yes, then 140.0.0.0.0 will be our final firmware. And if we want anything extra (e.g. USB 3.0 bootability), we may need to find out the hack by ourselves.

I bet that Intel is gonna release new microcodes, sooner or later. I hope that Apple release a final firmware maintenance upgrade with the microcode updates.

USB3.0/GOP support, forget, not gonna happen.
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My gut says it's Windows 10 and what ever is writing the certs into the flash.

I'm very suspicious of the way Windows 8.1/10 write the certificates, why they need to do it into the first two streams and why update a EFI machine? But I think that it's not just that, since some people use W10 frequently and never have a problem and some use sporadically and got the SPI flash corruption.

 

[bsbeamer]

Do you know what your version is to compare it?

Unfortunately, not an easy way to ID. I had to physically mail the card back to Apricorn for them to flash with new firmware. There was a conflict using a Duo X2 and Solo X2 in the same machine, which that firmware (flash) resolved.

Maybe it was just coincidence, but maybe a problem with Velocity Duo + APFS ?

All my drives are HFS+. Ran into issues with APFS back around the 10.13.2 (slow read/write), so cloned system drive over to an HFS+ format and all issues resolved immediately.

 

[tsialex]

10.14.3 DP4 has the same 140.0.0.0.0 firmware:

$IBIOSI$ MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1809191555
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP51
  EFI Version:  140.0.0.0.0
  Date:         Wed Sep 19 15:49:52 2018
  Build Type:   Release

 

[Reindeer_Games]

10.14.3 DP4 has the same 140.0.0.0.0 firmware:

$IBIOSI$ MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1809191555
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP51
  EFI Version:  140.0.0.0.0
  Date:         Wed Sep 19 15:49:52 2018
  Build Type:   Release

I have notice a calming of issues after running Checkdisk run as Admin on reboot in Windows 10, but I also have completely scrubbed Mojave from my 5,1 after making an image to restore later (if its not related). I also ordered a Powerlink to balance my power load on the PCIe boosters-I think that is where my issues with Mojave rebooting were. One thing at a time though-but the thought I've had is it might be the GPU's are pulling more on the PCIe boosters due the boot drive being present in the PCIe lanes and require more stable power than the GPU.

It's not a high enough amperage to be out of spec, but the spike fringing does look slightly out of the ordinary-IMO.

 

[Damaso Monge Fernandez]

Good afternoon, I'm a newbie with mac.
I'm following the document "The Mac Pro NVMe update that Apple forgot."
I downloaded the tools and in Zip (App ROMTool, DXEInject, NVMe_DXE.ffs.zip,) and they ask me for a password, which I can not find anywhere.
Can somebody help me.
Thank you.

 

[tsialex]

Good afternoon, I'm a newbie with mac.
I'm following the document "The Mac Pro NVMe update that Apple forgot."
I downloaded the tools and in Zip (App ROMTool, DXEInject, NVMe_DXE.ffs.zip,) and they ask me for a password, which I can not find anywhere.
Can somebody help me.
Thank you.

You need to fine tune your search skills since I answered this several times.
[doublepost=1547478727][/doublepost]https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/mp5-1-bootrom-thread-140-0-0-0-0.2132317/page-99#post-26824843

 

[Kon_Kipa]

Silly question, but where in "RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg" is the actual firmware rom located?

Can you use the 2009-->2010<--2009 firmware upgrade/downgrade tool to flash the bios?

I have tried flashing my 2012 Mac Pro but in all instances it is unsuccessful. I have a GT120 card installed & have removed my 980Ti but always get error message telling me to disable SIPS or use Metal Compatible graphics card (which I am assuming the GT120 is)

 

[Reindeer_Games]

Silly question, but where in "RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg" is the actual firmware rom located?

Can you use the 2009-->2010<--2009 firmware upgrade/downgrade tool to flash the bios?

I have tried flashing my 2012 Mac Pro but in all instances it is unsuccessful. I have a GT120 card installed & have removed my 980Ti but always get error message telling me to disable SIPS or use Metal Compatible graphics card (which I am assuming the GT120 is)

First post.

• manually trigger the install with 10.14.2 RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg. Instructions in this post, use the current RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg (~450MB download).

Apple's green-lit Mojave GPU's:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208898

 

[Kon_Kipa]

Hey there Reindeer_Games

i did read through that post & i did follow the instructions but i'm getting stuck at SIPS/Metal Graphics card not detected error.

It won't allow me to proceed so it can go ahead with the flash of the firmware to 140.0.0.0.0

 

[Reindeer_Games]

Hey there Reindeer_Games

i did read through that post & i did follow the instructions but i'm getting stuck at SIPS/Metal Graphics card not detected error.

It won't allow me to proceed so it can go ahead with the flash of the firmware to 140.0.0.0.0

Beg, borrow, or steal (please don't) a GPU off that list and you'll be set then it sounds like. LOL.

 

[Kon_Kipa]

Beg, borrow, or steal (please don't) a GPU off that list and you'll be set then it sounds like.

want to know the weird part, i could update from a full installation from 10.11.x to 10.13.x & it asked me to do the firmware thing & it proceeded but i don't know if it worked

 

[Reindeer_Games]

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[Kon_Kipa]

want to know the weird part, i could update from a full installation from 10.11.x to 10.13.x & it asked me to do the firmware thing & it proceeded but i don't know if it worked

this is it, i copied it from System Information part of About This Mac MP51.0084.B00

 

[Reindeer_Games]

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[Kon_Kipa]

Sorry not a clue from just those few-post a screenshot of your Hardware overview under About this Mac, System Information, Hardware Overview. Thats where your full bootrom is located next to boot ROM version.

MP51.0084.B00

 

[Reindeer_Games]

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[Kon_Kipa]

you should be able to get most of the way there, but the 140 bootrom I believe is only being distributed with Mojave and is going to require a Metal supported card from that list I posted earlier. If better advice is available I'm sure you'll hear something within a few hours from someone a bit more familiar with any workarounds.

I do have the full install of MoJave (downloaded from Apple directly) & the more reduced "RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg"

 

[Reindeer_Games]

I do have the full install of MoJave (downloaded from Apple directly) & the more reduced "RecoveryHDMetaDmg.pkg"

You have a few upgrades to walk it up through I think-I'm not sure of the progress of all them but they are listed in Post 1. Confirm and install each one thats is supplied on builds and you have to trigger each one manually. Confirm install of each one before attempting to move towards the next one.

Even once you have upgraded the bootrom to the one right below 140-you still ned a GPU from that list. The GT 120 isn't supported by Mojave-nor is your 980Ti.

 

[Kon_Kipa]

Even once you have upgraded the bootrom to the one right below 140-you still ned a GPU from that list. The GT 120 isn't supported by Mojave.

system build
Mid 2012 Dual CPU
2 x 3.46GHz XEON's
96GB DDR3 1333MHz Ram
Amfeltec Squid PCI-e 4 x AHCI Ports x16 (Running 4 x SM951 in Raid 0)
nVidia eVGA GTX 980Ti 6GB
Sonnet Allegro 2 x USB 3.1 in a USB-C PCI-e Card
4 x 10TB Seagate HDD's

 

[Reindeer_Games]

system build
Mid 2012 Dual CPU
2 x 3.46GHz XEON's
96GB DDR3 1333MHz Ram
Amfeltec Squid PCI-e 4 x AHCI Ports x16 (Running 4 x SM951 in Raid 0)
nVidia eVGA GTX 980Ti 6GB
Sonnet Allegro 2 x USB 3.1 in a USB-C PCI-e Card
4 x 10TB Seagate HDD's

Very nice- and none of it pertains to your ability to run Mojave or install the 140 bootrom. It's entirely GPU related.

I'm trying to help you-borrow a GPU on that list, and install the bootrom. When web-driver come out you'll be ready to upgrade your OS. Apple makes those decisions not anybody here and surely not me.

 

[Kon_Kipa]

Very nice- and none of it pertains to your ability to run Mojave or install the 140 bootrom.

I'm trying to help you-borrow a GPU on that list, and install the bootrom. When web-driver come out you'll be ready to upgrade your OS. Apple makes those decisions not anybody here and surely not me.

I successfully cloned a copy of MoJave using CCC on to the Mac Pro (as a trial/test) & it worked OK with the GT120 - i don't know if metal was working tho

 

[Reindeer_Games]

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[ADeeg]

Hi,

I've updated my cMP 5.1 from 2010 to Mojave and gets the new 140 Bootrom.

I've inserted a Samsung 970 pro pcie NVME and the card is available with macOS Mojave 10.14.2, but on my other partition with macOS 10.11.6 the NVME card is not visible.
The 970 pro NVME is formatted with apple GUID and Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

Why is the NVME not visible on 10.11.6 ?

Slot 1 AMD 7970 HD grafic
Slot 2 Samsung 970 Pro NVME - not visible with 10.11.6
Slot 3 Samsung SM951 AHCI SSD
Slot 4 Samsung XP941 AHCI SSD

Any Suggestion ?


Thanks Armin

 

[Kon_Kipa]

Hi,

I've updated my cMP 5.1 from 2010 to Mojave and gets the new 140 Bootrom.

I've inserted a Samsung 970 pro pcie NVME and the card is available with macOS Mojave 10.14.2, but on my other partition with macOS 10.11.6 the NVME card is not visible.
The 970 pro NVME is formatted with apple GUID and Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

Why is the NVME not visible on 10.11.6 ?

Slot 1 AMD 7970 HD grafic
Slot 2 Samsung 970 Pro NVME - not visible with 10.11.6
Slot 3 Samsung SM951 AHCI SSD
Slot 4 Samsung XP941 AHCI SSD

Any Suggestion ?


Thanks Armin

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Simple mate, nVME was officially supported by Apple OS X from 10.13.4 & newer

You can install a nVME driver in 10.11.x & it will work as it would in MoJvae
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Hi,

I've updated my cMP 5.1 from 2010 to Mojave and gets the new 140 Bootrom.

I've inserted a Samsung 970 pro pcie NVME and the card is available with macOS Mojave 10.14.2, but on my other partition with macOS 10.11.6 the NVME card is not visible.
The 970 pro NVME is formatted with apple GUID and Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

Why is the NVME not visible on 10.11.6 ?

Slot 1 AMD 7970 HD grafic
Slot 2 Samsung 970 Pro NVME - not visible with 10.11.6
Slot 3 Samsung SM951 AHCI SSD
Slot 4 Samsung XP941 AHCI SSD

Any Suggestion ?


Thanks Armin

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Here is the driver.. I've found it for you LOL

http://www.macvidcards.com/uploads/2/7/6/8/27683275/nvme_for_osx.zip

 

[tsialex]

Hi,

I've updated my cMP 5.1 from 2010 to Mojave and gets the new 140 Bootrom.

I've inserted a Samsung 970 pro pcie NVME and the card is available with macOS Mojave 10.14.2, but on my other partition with macOS 10.11.6 the NVME card is not visible.
The 970 pro NVME is formatted with apple GUID and Mac OS Extended (Journaled)

Why is the NVME not visible on 10.11.6 ?

Slot 1 AMD 7970 HD grafic
Slot 2 Samsung 970 Pro NVME - not visible with 10.11.6
Slot 3 Samsung SM951 AHCI SSD
Slot 4 Samsung XP941 AHCI SSD

Any Suggestion ?


Thanks Armin

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Apple started supporting the NVMe protocol with 10.12, but for drives with 4 Kbytes sectors. High Sierra brought support to drives with 512 bytes per sector. This is counterintuitive for some, because 512 bytes/sector is older that 4 Kbytes/sector, but OEM drives Apple used are 4K and it's what support. Most drives on the market, like your Samsung 970 PRO, are 512 bytes per sector.

Don't use 3rd party kexts to support NVMe, it's a constant source of trouble.
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Simple mate, nVME was officially supported by Apple OS X from 10.13.4 & newer

You can install a nVME driver in 10.11.x & it will work as it would in MoJvae
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Here is the driver.. I've found it for you LOL

http://www.macvidcards.com/uploads/2/7/6/8/27683275/nvme_for_osx.zip

No, it won't. This kext is at best experimental and never was considered production ready. Don't use it.