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Yesterday I forgot to check if BBS adds the 4th store/stream of the NVRAM. Re-checking it, I found that BBS does 2 things:

  1. Fills the empty 3rd stream with Fsys + SSN + checksum,
  2. Fills the empty 4th stream with Gaid + EOF + checksum.
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bookemdano said:
Ahhh the Chicago font! Haven't seen that in a while.
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Besides some internal tools that still use it, I think that the last product to use a Chicago based font was some iPod, maybe iPod Photo 3rd Gen.
 
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tsialex said:
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Yesterday I forgot to check if BBS adds the 4th store/stream of the NVRAM. Re-checking it, I found that BBS does 2 things:

  1. Fills the empty 3rd stream with Fsys + SSN + checksum,
  2. Fills the empty 4th stream with Gaid + EOF + checksum.
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Cool, then maybe the Xserve 6-core issue is solved then. Can you write a custom patcher for that? so we don't have to free up this version of BBS into the wild
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tsialex said:
Second useless* info of the day:

If you have a bricked backplane, restored MP51.fd to it and then you run BlankBoardSerializer, the only thing added is the SSN, all other hardwareIDs will be blank.

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*Btw, it's not useless info per se, but it's an useless application of BBS. You still need to do a reconstruction of your hardwareIDs.
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Why for if even iCloud works after BBS inputs a serial number? So do Appstore downloads etc.
 
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Cool, then maybe the Xserve 6-core issue is solved then. Can you write a custom patcher for that? so we don't have to free up this version of BBS into the wild
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It's on the wild, just search for it. Anyway, it's useless since it won't fill enough hardwareIDs to make a Mac login with iCloud/iMessage/FaceTime.
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nos1609 said:
Why for if even iCloud works after BBS inputs a serial number? So do Appstore downloads etc.
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A replacement board from Apple has all hardwareIDs except SSN/HWC/SON, so it will work after BBS inserts the SSN. A backplane flashed with a generic MP51.fd has none.
 
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tsialex said:
It's on the wild, just search for it. Anyway, it's useless since it won't fill enough hardwareIDs to make a Mac login with iCloud/iMessage/FaceTime.
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A replacement board from Apple has all hardwareIDs except SSN/HWC/SON, so it will work after BBS. A backplane flashed with a generic MP51.fd has none.
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So maybe xServe is way different then, since on a 144 boot rom it worked for me on 3 different logicboards. Maybe you're using the wrong/old version of it. Do you need the two dumps for comparison, a blank one and after my BBS one?
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tsialex said:
It's on the wild, just search for it. Anyway, it's useless since it won't fill enough hardwareIDs to make a Mac login with iCloud/iMessage/FaceTime.
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A replacement board from Apple has all hardwareIDs except SSN/HWC/SON, so it will work after BBS inserts the SSN. A backplane flashed with a generic MP51.fd has none.
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Since it is an xServe, it was manually dirty flashed with an MP51.fd, so i doubt any useful info left inside afterwards.
 
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nos1609 said:
So maybe xServe is way different then, since on a 144 boot rom it worked for me on 3 different logicboards. Maybe you're using the wrong/old version of it. Do you need the two dumps for comparison, a blank one and after my BBS one?
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Since it is an xServe, it was manually dirty flashed with an MP51.fd, so i doubt any useful info left inside afterwards.
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If you are flashing a generic MP51.fd and then you can login with iMessage, post a screenshot of NVRAM Fsys and the last sector of the BootROM.
 
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If you are easily impressed, I advise you to not see the following binwalk, it's shocking ;)

Code: 
DECIMAL       HEXADECIMAL     DESCRIPTION
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
243907        0x3B8C3         BIOS version: MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1904121248
768195        0xBB8C3         BIOS version: MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1904121248
1179688       0x120028        NVRAM start of the 1st VSS stream
1179766       0x120076        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (j)
1181218       0x120622        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1181507       0x120743        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1182463       0x120AFF        NVRAM SIP state, type: (w)
1182586       0x120B7A        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1183424       0x120EC0        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1184262       0x121206        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1185100       0x12154C        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1185938       0x121892        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1186776       0x121BD8        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1187614       0x121F1E        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1190253       0x12296D        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (i)
1193323       0x12356B        NVRAM PanicInfo Log
1196152       0x124078        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (g)
1198200       0x124878        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (h)
1245255       0x130047        NVRAM start of the 2nd VSS stream
1245302       0x130076        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (j)
1246754       0x130622        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1247043       0x130743        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1247999       0x130AFF        NVRAM SIP state, type: (w)
1248122       0x130B7A        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1248960       0x130EC0        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1249798       0x131206        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1250636       0x13154C        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1251474       0x131892        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1252312       0x131BD8        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1253150       0x131F1E        NVRAM PanicInfo Log B
1255789       0x13296D        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (i)
1258859       0x13356B        NVRAM PanicInfo Log
1261688       0x134078        NVRAM MemoryConfig type: (g)
1343518       0x14801E        HardwareID Base_xx: 19
1345188       0x1486A4        HardwareID 11-digits SSN: xxxxxxxxxxx
1345205       0x1486B5        HardwareID 3-digit HWC model: 20H
1416827       0x159E7B        BIOS version: MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1904121248
1614976       0x18A480        Apple NVMe EFI Module
4128867       0x3F0063        BootBlock version: AAPLEFI1.88Z.0005.I00.1010071430
4194000       0x3FFED0        HardwareID MLB/LBSN: xxxxxxxxxx, BuildDate: 091012091012

I didn't even knew that a NVRAM could store 20 KPs…
 
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Woof Woof said:
Is there a post that describes the best way to install binwalk for analyzing ROMs on the Mac, or just use the instructions here? https://github.com/ReFirmLabs/binwalk/blob/master/INSTALL.md

I am curious what my 2009 looks like (the 2012 should be clean).
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Just use Homebrew, after brew is installed:
Code: 
brew install binwalk
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orph said:
why does the bootrom save things like memory config & KP's?
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Both are needed.
  • Memory configs are the parameters of each DIMM.
  • KP's are needed for debug purposes. Mac firmware save the KP to the NVRAM, so the next time you open macOS you have the KP.
 
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tsialex said:
Just use Homebrew, after brew is installed:
Code: 
brew install binwalk
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Well that was easy. Other than the 2 certs, it looks pretty clean?

DECIMAL HEXADECIMAL DESCRIPTION

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0 0x0 UEFI PI firmware volume
16524 0x408C UEFI PI firmware volume
24972 0x618C CRC32 polynomial table, little endian
35787 0x8BCB mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit
49948 0xC31C UEFI PI firmware volume
524288 0x80000 UEFI PI firmware volume
540812 0x8408C UEFI PI firmware volume
549260 0x8618C CRC32 polynomial table, little endian
560075 0x88BCB mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit
574236 0x8C31C UEFI PI firmware volume
1048576 0x100000 UEFI PI firmware volume
1114112 0x110000 UEFI PI firmware volume
1183976 0x1210E8 Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986
1249512 0x1310E8 Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986
1343538 0x148032 bzip2 compressed data, block size = 100k
1376256 0x150000 UEFI PI firmware volume
 
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Woof Woof said:
Well that was easy. Other than the 2 certs, it looks pretty clean.

DECIMAL HEXADECIMAL DESCRIPTION

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0 0x0 UEFI PI firmware volume
16524 0x408C UEFI PI firmware volume
24972 0x618C CRC32 polynomial table, little endian
35787 0x8BCB mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit
49948 0xC31C UEFI PI firmware volume
524288 0x80000 UEFI PI firmware volume
540812 0x8408C UEFI PI firmware volume
549260 0x8618C CRC32 polynomial table, little endian
560075 0x88BCB mcrypt 2.2 encrypted data, algorithm: blowfish-448, mode: CBC, keymode: 8bit
574236 0x8C31C UEFI PI firmware volume
1048576 0x100000 UEFI PI firmware volume
1114112 0x110000 UEFI PI firmware volume
1183976 0x1210E8 Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986
1249512 0x1310E8 Certificate in DER format (x509 v3), header length: 4, sequence length: 986
1343538 0x148032 bzip2 compressed data, block size = 100k
1376256 0x150000 UEFI PI firmware volume
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Binwalk signature files are not made to detect Mac problems and the default install only detects the SecureBoot certificates.

All binwalk results that I post are based on signatures that I'm developing for almost a year - it's not ready for end users usage and not public yet.
 
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With all my effort to install MacOS Mojave last year with 4.1->5.1 and GTX680 (except FileVault), I was hoping my Mac Pro would survive a few more years.

If Catalina full release can be installed (with some tweaks) will it be able to run as it should? Updates won't require a new hack etc?
Atm. everything is running vanilla, which I very much like, but there seems to be so many nice additions to Catalina that I'd like it to run on my Mac Pro 2009, which is a nice partner to my MacBook Pro 2018.
 
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DIY_glenn said:
With all my effort to install MacOS Mojave last year with 4.1->5.1 and GTX680 (except FileVault), I was hoping my Mac Pro would survive a few more years.

If Catalina full release can be installed (with some tweaks) will it be able to run as it should? Updates won't require a new hack etc?
Atm. everything is running vanilla, which I very much like, but there seems to be so many nice additions to Catalina that I'd like it to run on my Mac Pro 2009, which is a nice partner to my MacBook Pro 2018.
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What you need to do to make Catalina work with MacPro5,1
 
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Apple released 10.14.6 DP3, build is 18G59b.
Screen Shot 2019-06-24 at 14.38.53.png

I'm downloading it to check any firmware upgrades.

For Catalina DP3/PB1 check here #267
 
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10.14.6 DP3 EFI Version table for non BridgeOS Macs:

(no firmware upgrades, same as DP2)

Mac:EFI version:
IM13,1286.0.0.0.0
IM14,1138.0.0.0.0
IM14,2138.0.0.0.0
IM14,3138.0.0.0.0
IM14,4198.0.0.0.0
IM15,1229.0.0.0.0
IM16,1228.0.0.0.0
IM16,2228.0.0.0.0
IM17,1168.0.0.0.0
IM18,1173.0.0.0.0
IM18,3173.0.0.0.0
IM19,1220.270.076.0.0
MB10,1176.0.0.0.0
MB8,1182.0.0.0.0
MB9,1182.0.0.0.0
MBA5,1258.0.0.0.0
MBA6,1116.0.0.0.0
MBA7,1187.0.0.0.0
MBP10,1256.0.0.0.0
MBP10,2279.0.0.0.0
MBP11,1155.0.0.0.0
MBP11,2155.0.0.0.0
MBP11,4193.0.0.0.0
MBP12,1185.0.0.0.0
MBP13,1234.0.0.0.0
MBP13,2257.0.0.0.0
MBP13,3257.0.0.0.0
MBP14,1196.0.0.0.0
MBP14,2196.0.0.0.0
MBP14,3196.0.0.0.0
MBP9,1227.0.0.0.0
MM6,1279.0.0.0.0
MM7,1243.0.0.0.0
MP5,1144.0.0.0.0
MP6,1131.0.0.0.0

Code: 
$IBIOSI$ MP51.88Z.F000.B00.1904121248
Apple ROM Version
  Model:        MP51
  EFI Version:  144.0.0.0.0
  Date:         Fri Apr 12 12:43:00 2019
  Build Type:   Release
 
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So my CPU is a W3565, my currentBoot ROM Version is 138.0.0.0.0.

Can I update to 144.0.0.0.0 using the guide on Post #3402 without any problems?
I'm a little bit confused about the problems with bricking my Xeon reported in this thread.

Thanks in advance ;)
 
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