Macs dont crash, seriously its amazing

[mattcube64]

I've had to hold the power button down to manually turn my Macbook off THREE times since getting it two weeks ago. Everytime I've been using the Frontrow software, so I'm not too worried.

 

[gco212]

Strange... My laptop's Windows install is about a year old and it usually runs 1-2 months between reboots. When I'm rebooting I'm not doing it because of problems though, but rather because of system updates and the likes.

I might also add that BSODs almost always are caused by malfunctioning hardware or possibly bad drivers. Before blaming Windows, you really should check out the other parts. In almost 6 years of XP usage, I don't think I've ever had a blue screen that wasn't related to hardware problems, bad drivers or overclocking. I know that most of you aren't using Windows, but for those who are, it might be good looking into this before wiping the drive. Having hardware problems also means that the BSODs are going to appear soon again, despite the fresh install, which seems to be what many of you have experienced.

I always test new hardware thoroughly, since problems are somewhat common. Especially when it comes to RAM, which also happens to cause major instability when it's defective. Considering the amount of bad RAM sticks I've gotten through the years, I can only imagine how many users that are out there thinking Windows is a piece of **** software when it's in fact the computer hardware acting up. It's not like the average user knows how to run Memtest86. Hell, most probably don't have a clue about what RAM is...

Anyway, I just checked the original XP install date on the work machine that I'm writing this on. March 14th 2003. In this time it has never blue screened once and still feels fresh as new (booting it up takes just a few seconds longer now). The most interesting thing might be that it has been connected to the net 12 hours a day the last year and a half and still hasn't caught a virus or spyware infection (ran a few online scans).

Maybe it's just luck?

P.S. My brother just started reading the above and I asked him when he last got a BSOD on his XP machine. He thought for a second or two and then replied "Never. The OS has actually never crashed on this machine.". So, the question is: Are be both just lucky or are BSODs (and other crashes for that matter) more related to bad hardware and drivers. I think they are. D.S.

EDIT: The above might be totally uninteresting to you, but I thought I'd post it for discussion anyway. As I've said many times before, though, Windows is hardly secure. Entering pretty much any porn site would get me some nice spyware immideately.... So, not very good in that aspect. As you might have understood by now, I'm far more impressed by the stability than the security.

I second that. I got a new machine a few months ago, and have yet to get a virus, BSOD, or have been forced to reboot due to slowdown. I have rebooted, I believe 3 times (2 the first day), all because of software updates and the like. On my other computer, I probably had a few times where I had to reboot, but I can't remember any. And, as a side note, my computer is almost always hooked up to the internet unless it's sleeping.

 

[shujin]

Bordem= how many applications can you run at once?

I was encoding a video on isquint and mpeg streamclip. I beleive the total number was over 30 though some of them weren't heavy usage programs. I also had over 20 widgets running to. I have a 2 ghz 1 gig ram macbook (white). Now I want to see some one with a Mac Pro hit 60 or 70 apps at ounce. I think I might go try this on the mac mini PPC 1.42 Ghz and 512 meg or ram. I wouldn't get up to 30.

 

[Frisco]

Very impressive! That's one thing that would be suicide in Windows!

 

[iGary]

90

 

[Frisco]

That's sick! In a good way of course. How much RAM do you have?

 

[iGary]

That's sick! In a good way of course. How much RAM do you have?

It took up "only" 3.5 GB to have all that stuff open, which shocked me.

 

[whocares]

90

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You need to upgrade to Leopard and start using Spaces big time. Maybe even consider getting a few more graphics cards and 30".

 

[KingYaba]

My eMac will blow up if I try to open more than 7 apps at one time. More than 5 gets really laggy.

 

[shujin]

Well I beat my record, and not with the macbook. I ran 50 apps on the mac mini. Its not even an intel one. 1.42 ghz 512mb ram and it ran 50 apps! Again I am amazed. I literally ran out of programs to run. I wish I had a mac pro to run about a hundred or even twice that. I just want to say I love apple and thank you Steve Jobs.

 

[jamesW135]

Sorry to break it to you but.. Mac DO crash.

 

[ampd]

85C is a lil too hot for me... When I used to build/overclock machines before I switched to macs I would stress test extensively but I never saw my temps go above 60C under load...As a personal rule of thumb I would always try to keep my temps under 50C load...

 

[MustardMan]

Macs definitely crash

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[MustardMan]

Macs definitely crash

My ibook crashed once in a while, not a lot but occasionally. My macbook seems better about it, but definitely still locks up and has to be restarted every now and then.

It seems to me that OS X networking has some serious issues - if you get a program that is waiting for a network connection to time out it can seriously lag your computer, to the point where it's totally uresponsive.

 

[spicyapple]

22 programs? That's nothing...I've seen people post screen shots on here where they have a full 30" ACD dock filled with open apps.

It was in the Post your Dock thread.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/135210/

 

[Chone]

Macs rule!

Sadly and I hate to break your bubble, I love macs as much as the next guy (as long as the guy posts on macrumors ) and definitely think OS X is leaps and bounds over WinXP, but Win is not that bad , here is a screenshot of windows XP running 30 apps (they are running while I type this), I'm applying a photoshop effect (ocean ripple), playing back a 720p HD video, a quicktime video, burning a CD, etc while I listen to music and do my everyday tasks. I'll post this picture now as I open more apps and find the limit I uploaded the picture and everything with the apps open.

(the black spot is for privacy issues)

I'll probably get flamed for this but WinXP needs to keep some of its dignity lol, oh this is on a PC with 3.2ghz northwood P4, 1GB RAM, 9600SE, WinXP SP2.

 

[Chone]

Well the first sign of unstability showed when divx crash, it was playing a one hour long divx video, I thought the rest would crash too but they keeped on going, its important to note that at this point I was using WLM (a very intensive IM app) with a girl sending lots of handwritten messages to me, I was applying another effect to PS (neon glow), I had a 720p video looping as well as an hour long quicktime video (looping too), google earth was zooming onto a location, etc all while doing my "regular stuff" like browsing on firefox, listening to music, etc I could also mass-minimize and maximize them back very quickly by just clicking the show desktop button (next to Start).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/piucupload/allnice2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/piucupload/divxcrash.jpg

(sorry I don't know how to post thumbnails and the bigass picture will probably annoy people)

So yeah, Macs don't crash with many apps open... but neither do PCs, if my PC from 2004 could do this I can't imagine what a nice PC will be able to do... I'm going to do this when I get my Mac Pro , both in WinXP and OS X

 

[maxrobertson]

umm... I clearly disproved that like two or three posts ago by posting a huge screen shot of 34 programs, in addition to the System Software, running under System 7...

But in some ways, system 7 could be more stable than 9, I think.