Well technically, none of the power methods can supply more than 75W
I'll be checking with Hardware Monitor tomorrow, once I've received my serial number...
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MacVidCards GeForce 780GTX - FurMark blinks off 2009 Mac Pro
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Well technically, none of the power methods can supply more than 75W
I'll be checking with Hardware Monitor tomorrow, once I've received my serial number...
Furmark is like putting the back of your car up on blocks, sliding it into gear, and leaving a brick on the gas pedal.
I can easily get a GTX570 to shut off a 2008 MP, as I have posted before.
That said, I have never seen this behavior from a 780, but a 570 or 580 or Titan will do this quickly.
Does that mean they have a problem? I have never had one get returned for this issue. And my GTX570 rom has been used by many folks at this point, I would be willing to bet that there are several thousand in use. No threads about MP shutting off during renders in AE or Resolve or any sort of gaming. The number of 780s in the wild is a tiny fraction of 570s but according to Hardware Monitor they draw same power.
I will have 4 @ 780 going through my hands today, I will try them all and report.
That being said, I believe that the OP has another ax to grind and I would like to recommend that he stop trying to take sideways shots at me over an issue that was very much his fault. We had agreed to have no more discussions regarding the "accident" he had and I would still prefer to keep it that way. I'll keep my word and not post the texts and pictures and document.
Running Furmark isn't important. I have NEVER had a 780 crap out running it UNLESS I ALSO RAN 3 OR 4 BENCHMARKS AT SAME TIME OVER MULTIPLE SCREENS.
I left the transaction with unsettled wonderings about the human race and their propensity to say something that did not match obvious realities. It would seem that OP wants to publicly humiliate himself. I'll do it if he wants.
The 780s run fine without external power. He knows it. He has not only been the only 780 owner to claim this issue, he is also the only 780 owner to report the "web driver" issue that also only seems to plague Titans. I will just leave it that he seems to be a genuine person yet his words do NOT always match with truth. It is hard to know what to believe but I do believe he should lick his wounds and stop stirring trouble that he doesn't need or want.
I can easily get a GTX570 to shut off a 2008 MP, as I have posted before.
That said, I have never seen this behavior from a 780, but a 570 or 580 or Titan will do this quickly.
Does that mean they have a problem? I have never had one get returned for this issue. And my GTX570 rom has been used by many folks at this point, I would be willing to bet that there are several thousand in use. No threads about MP shutting off during renders in AE or Resolve or any sort of gaming. The number of 780s in the wild is a tiny fraction of 570s but according to Hardware Monitor they draw same power.
I will have 4 @ 780 going through my hands today, I will try them all and report.
That being said, I believe that the OP has another ax to grind and I would like to recommend that he stop trying to take sideways shots at me over an issue that was very much his fault. We had agreed to have no more discussions regarding the "accident" he had and I would still prefer to keep it that way. I'll keep my word and not post the texts and pictures and document.
Running Furmark isn't important. I have NEVER had a 780 crap out running it UNLESS I ALSO RAN 3 OR 4 BENCHMARKS AT SAME TIME OVER MULTIPLE SCREENS.
I left the transaction with unsettled wonderings about the human race and their propensity to say something that did not match obvious realities. It would seem that OP wants to publicly humiliate himself. I'll do it if he wants.
The 780s run fine without external power. He knows it. He has not only been the only 780 owner to claim this issue, he is also the only 780 owner to report the "web driver" issue that also only seems to plague Titans. I will just leave it that he seems to be a genuine person yet his words do NOT always match with truth. It is hard to know what to believe but I do believe he should lick his wounds and stop stirring trouble that he doesn't need or want.
i have the 6pin wire plugged into the right side of the 8pin connector.
2009 Mac Pro 4.1 | GTX 780 by Sunny Jhooty, on Flickr
I've been using the MVC GTX 780 for roughly two weeks and I've had zero issues with it on resolve, after effects, premiere, ect.
is macvidscards going to lower the price on his cards since the gtx 780 superclocked reference can be bought now for 500 retail?
Do you want me to post a video of the system dying right after FurMark is run? Would that make you happy? Or if you know someone local, send 'em to my house and I'd gladly let them witness it for themselves. I'm not saying it's common, but I will assert that just because it's not within your realm of experience, doesn't mean it isn't factual. And I stand behind my claim. If Furmark isn't important, then why do you run it?
I'd be happy to put together a video showing my system after the latest nVidia Web driver is installed under ML - I get stuck with an apple logo and a mouse on first system boot. This doesn't happen on my current Mavericks install, so I don't care - This is why I didn't even bother bringing it up again. If I was intent on "taking side shots" at you, surely I'd harp on that? You brought it up, but I couldn't care less about that, since I'm not experiencing it in Mavericks.
I have better things to do than conjure up issues - I'd have been happy if the card worked as advertised with all web updates working and no power issues, but the fact is that it doesn't. I'm not arguing that it's a rarity in your experience, but you asserting that "I know" that there are no 780 problems is flat-out disingenuous; you don't know what I know or don't know.
As a side note, I've got texts, pictures and documents as well - I would strongly advise that it would be in your best interests to keep what you call the "accident" to yourself. Let's keep this civil.
Better yet. Call me. Text me. You have my number. We can set up some time for me to FaceTime with you. I'll show you my 2009 MP crashing live using my MBR's webcam. Truth is, I've got nothing against you other than your continued desire to paint me in a negative light. Let's talk/facetime and I'll show you, live, the issues I'm having. Or again, I can post videos here if that's what you'd prefer.
P.S. - You're human, too.
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Oh, it works fine in AfterEffects, Crysis 3, LuxMark, etc. Never any problems in those apps. But I was told that it'd make it through FurMark - My 780 is behaving more like the Titans he's mentioned.
If you've got Windows, please run the Furmark Benchmark for 60 seconds and post your results. Thanks.
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Hello everyone! Not exactly new to MacRumors as an observer but new for posting! So with that said...I'm looking at adding either the 780 to my MP from MVC or a 680 and curious about anyone's bias between the two cards. Also looking forward to the adventure of adding a six-core 3.04 to my MP. I'm slowly getting around to gearing up my Mac Pro, for hopefully, professional-money making usage
Hello everyone! Not exactly new to MacRumors as an observer but new for posting! So with that said...I'm looking at adding either the 780 to my MP from MVC or a 680 and curious about anyone's bias between the two cards. Also looking forward to the adventure of adding a six-core 3.04 to my MP. I'm slowly getting around to gearing up my Mac Pro, for hopefully, professional-money making usage
I'm currently building a hex core Mac Pro myself for video editing/compositing. Will be going with the 780 since it has 90% of the computing power as the titan. What are you using your MP for? The 680 is a good card, but a 580 actually has more computing power.
Currently, I am learning all of the Adobe Production Suite 6. I have been dabbling in photography for the last year and have taken some classes in-between different times with the Adobe Production Suite. I'm excited about AE and PR and Flash! I haven't made any money yet because I know i have a lot to learn still....I'm trying to determine best bang for the buck re: Nvidia Cards...not yet grasping the logic of the 580 being a better performer than the new Nvidia cards...
The 580 is quite a bit superior in OpenCL/Compute than the 680, however the 780 is markedly better than the 580 in OpenCL/Compute. In gaming, the 680 is faster than the 580, and the 780 is obviously faster, still.
I'm not really a gamer but my son is. I was blindly looking at the Cuda count as being the determining factor for card superiority. I'm still researching it. Granted, the Cuda will somewhat be used only for my Adobe Apps...AE and PR
How was the process of converting your 4,1 to 5,1 hexacore? I've already updated my firmware to 5,1....just pending the purchase of the right 6-core processor.
It was simple - Just run the firmware update, replace the CPU, and zap the PRAM. Would suggest running 1333MHz RAM if possible, though it's not required. The most difficult thing was deciding what thermal paste I wanted to use (GC Extreme)
The 680 GTX is a pretty safe card - I've tested it with FurMark on internal power with zero issues.
Aside from the FurMark issue causing me to think about purchasing an additional PSU for the graphics card, I'd highly recommend the 780 GTX. YMMV as far as power draw is concerned, but with the 780GTX's price drop, I imagine you should be able to get one in addition to a FSP Booster X5 PSU for less than most have paid for their 780s alone. My system was built in March 2009 - Could be that your system has a better PSU in it than mine though.
The 580 uses as much if not more power than the 780 GTX - I'd recommend staying away from it unless you want better CUDA than the 680 - You're in all likelihood going to end up needing a PSU for the 580 anyway.
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Just ran FurMark using Geeks3D GPUTest 0.4.0 under OS X - FurMark completes successfully with a score of 5085 points (84 FPS) @ 1920x1080, no AA.
However, under Windows, FurMark still causes the system to shut down. Might you try running FurMark under Windows with your 780 GTX, Dave, to see if any of your 780s have the same problem under Windows?
OK, IMHO, FurMark is an abusive benchmark. I like MVCs analogy. I have had my MVC modified Gigabyte OC GTX780 card in my machine for about a month now. I have run benchmarks on it in both 10.8.5 and 10.9. It's fast, and I have not had any hiccups, nor do I expect to.
I WILL NOT RUN FURMARK - NOT NOW, NOT EVER!!!! What the heck does it prove. That you can abuse a Graphics Card and it may survive, or quit. OK, if it runs and you get a score, what are you going to do with it. Tattoo it to your chest. Rent a Billboard and display it there. Again, from all I've read, it's destructive to equipment.
If your video card is fast, and does what you want it too, plays games well, tests out well in in Benchmarks that stress your card. Why run a destructive test that may damage it? Again, what's the frapping point I don't understand what all this fuss is about.
Lou
I WILL NOT RUN FURMARK - NOT NOW, NOT EVER!!!! What the heck does it prove. That you can abuse a Graphics Card and it may survive, or quit. OK, if it runs and you get a score, what are you going to do with it. Tattoo it to your chest. Rent a Billboard and display it there. Again, from all I've read, it's destructive to equipment.
If your video card is fast, and does what you want it too, plays games well, tests out well in in Benchmarks that stress your card. Why run a destructive test that may damage it? Again, what's the frapping point
I don't understand what all this fuss is about.Lou