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rehkram

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May 7, 2018
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Understood. But data is often dependent on the app version. For example, developers routinely change existing data structures for a new release. Not all developers are diligent enough to check for old data structures and to trigger a conversion. As a result, at best the app won't work. At worst, the data is corrupted.

That's just one example of how dependencies should be assumed to exist. It's not as simple as a clear cut separation between 'data' and 'apps'.
 

rimvydukas

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Sep 3, 2009
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Understood. But data is often dependent on the app version. For example, developers routinely change existing data structures for a new release. Not all developers are diligent enough to check for old data structures and to trigger a conversion. As a result, at best the app won't work. At worst, the data is corrupted.

That's just one example of how dependencies should be assumed to exist. It's not as simple as a clear cut separation between 'data' and 'apps'.
I understand you quite well, as I'm IT person. But by saying my data I simply mean simple volume with my music, movies, documents, etc. on it, no system files at all there. I simply want to have these things separated from Macos system and do not think what to do with my data when I'll decide to do quick clean reinstall of macos. And it makes me sad to see Apple going this way with even more various restrictions even without any clarifications about such changes:( I'm starting to think that Apple is trying to change macos to some ios clone, with way more various users restrictions everywhere, but I hope I'm wrong about this.
 
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harriska2

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Mar 16, 2011
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I’m a Windows former user. I *insist* on having my data on a completely different physical drive and backups on a different drive also. I even have my photos on the separate drive with reference pointer to each picture within photos app. Yeah, that paranoid. I have 2 10tb drives hanging off my mini running mojave. Because of my setup, I simply don’t trust upgrading or even running Monty on a separate ssd.
 

rimvydukas

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Sep 3, 2009
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One more update after Monterey 12.1 release. I want to update that actual problem has gone with 12.1 release, I'm more that happy.
 
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rimvydukas

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Sep 3, 2009
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So you mean to say now its easy to partition the drive and it wont ask for Reset and Erase thing again?

I have mixed feelings. As I reported earlier I was able to reinstall Monterey 12.1 with another user apfs volume in place on my air without single problem. But today I decided to do the same on my mini with big sur installed. Wiped macos volume group, created new one, started install and here we go again - the same window after first reboot :(
 
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