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Matte Display = Grey not black Bezel?
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I seriously can't believe that you still insist that the antiglare isn't matte, despite several first hand reports saying otherwise. Sure, a lot of people haven't seen them to say - but neither have you, yet you are ready to call them all thick. If you are wrong, are you willing to admit that you are thick?
Come on, just wait a bit and you'll see them on display sooner or later. From what I've hear they are just the old matte screens. I've specifically asked people who have been and this is what I have been told.
I'd be happy if I were wrong. In my defense the thick comment was for those who just assumed it was matte because it is called antiglare. That's a misnomer because the old glossy also had the antiglare and it's not actually what matte is. Matte is another coating.
But yes, more and more people are reporting that the new mbp antiglare is a good old frosty matte screen, so I would have to be thick to ignore that.
So it seems antiglare and matte are probably the same thing according to Apple. If so I think that's a good thing, since it gives people who want a good matte screen that option.
What are you talking about? I've seen the previous MBP's glossy screens and visually they appeared to have the same coating as any other Apple glossy display available at the time (MB, MBA, iMac)
What makes you think old glossy MBPs had antiglare on them?
What? Surely the fact you even typed that to me undoes everything that link even says? Congrats at failing to even be slightly witty.
Don't get me wrong, I love the alu bezel. Just the way apple has done it seems like they threw it on at the last minute (the black seal around the screen etc - surely it should be more like macbook air?). Oh well, if you like it you like it.
Apparently Apple didn't bring any "matte" 17" MBP's to MacWorld. Boggles my mind that.
There's a small comment about this, posted in reply to this article.
An expanded mind is less "boggled"
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/631126/
Do you think there's a probability to see the glass-less matte option of the 17" offered on the 15" any time soon (or any time at all) ?
I've given up on trying to find a matte Penryn MBP, and the dual GPU unibody model could prove very interesting in Snow Leopard.
I've given up on trying to find a matte Penryn MBP, and the dual GPU unibody model could prove very interesting in Snow Leopard.
you can get it modified by TechRestore, they take off the glass and do something to the screen...more info on the site.
Its $199, and only for the 15 inch unibodies.
Mourning...I see what you did there.
I prefer the black bezel to the cardboard grey bezel.
(do you see what I did there?)
Easier to clean, less susceptible to scratches, stronger colors, not washed out in sunlight, more unified external design... the glossy 17" is the one I'll be getting.
I can see a lot of people ending up regretting buying the "non-glare" version, with its more vulnerable screen and its hotch-potch, Frankenstein build.
Using my glossy-screened iMac, I have never once experienced a glare problem when working, and I use photoshop and other graphic programs. But I recall having plenty of problems trying to use a non-glare MBP in outside light the screen simply washed out into a sea of gray. However, I've seen the glossy MBP in strong outside light and it is far more usable.
Don't be duped into thinking non-glare is always better. Sometimes it might be, sometimes it's definitely not.
I can see a lot of people ending up regretting buying the "non-glare" version, with its more vulnerable screen and its hotch-potch, Frankenstein build.
Using my glossy-screened iMac, I have never once experienced a glare problem when working, and I use photoshop and other graphic programs. But I recall having plenty of problems trying to use a non-glare MBP in outside light the screen simply washed out into a sea of gray. However, I've seen the glossy MBP in strong outside light and it is far more usable.
Don't be duped into thinking non-glare is always better. Sometimes it might be, sometimes it's definitely not.
I see how it could benefice for the average users (amateur photographs, gamers, movie viewing...) but Glossy has no colours accuracy, which you don't seems to understand is critical for graphic designers, artists, printers and photographs.
And the Techrestore offer seems to be... suspect. 200$ For a new 15'' Led screens of quality, with a new glass cover, and they still make money? All that, and it void your warranty...
I still hold hope that, since it's not out yet, that Apple will correct it's "hodge-podge", Frankenstein build with a mind-numbingly easy fix - replace the black seal with the grey seal, à la MacBook Air. Sure, silver or white chiclet keys would make it even better, but let's not push the folks in Cupertino too far out of their comfort zone and thank God for having the matte option back again.
Also, I've found a lot of people have trained themselves to look past the glare. I cannot. Even the glare on the MacBooks facing the expo floor at Macworld bugged the crap out of me. It's why I stayed on the side facing the black Apple cube.
My comment was posted before those shots showed up and was based on a news report saying no matte MBP's were on sight.
I went to a shop yesterday, I had the opportunity to compare my findings from an Apple retailer nearby, who had on display an MBP from the previous generation with an horribly shiny plastic screen.
Yesterday I've seen, side by side, the 15" unibody and an old 17" Penryn with what must be the famous anti-glare coating. It was definitely not as shiny as the one at the Apple retailer, but it wasn't matte either (I mean, the "plastic" kind of matte). It had a blue-ish kind of finish, sort of like my CRT.
With the screens switched off, the 15" unibody definitely had more reflections than the 17" Penryn. Mainly because the anti-glare coating has dim reflections (those on the unibody were almost white) but also because the unibody is an LCD + a hard cover... so it had 2 reflections more or less superimposed. Very weird.
I say more or less, because I was quite befuddled to discover the much touted "glass" really wasn't glass at all. It would bend under a slight pressure. So it's probably just a very hard kind of plastic. Glass wouldn't bend like that. Which makes sense, since this will not shatter after a fall.
I had also read the LCD was glued to the glass lid for added strength. Well apparently it's not (or it wouldn't move!).
The side effect of this not being glass is that you could see the uneven flatness just by moving left and right in front of the computer. The double reflections would not move in concert...
I'm still getting the 15" unibody, but will sell it as soon as the glass-less + anti-glare is available. And I hope someone creates a black stick-on bezel because that black rubber joint sure looks out of place in the middle of a grey bezel.
I could be wrong about these assumptions. But until then, I'll believe my eyes.
Yesterday I've seen, side by side, the 15" unibody and an old 17" Penryn with what must be the famous anti-glare coating. It was definitely not as shiny as the one at the Apple retailer, but it wasn't matte either (I mean, the "plastic" kind of matte). It had a blue-ish kind of finish, sort of like my CRT.
With the screens switched off, the 15" unibody definitely had more reflections than the 17" Penryn. Mainly because the anti-glare coating has dim reflections (those on the unibody were almost white) but also because the unibody is an LCD + a hard cover... so it had 2 reflections more or less superimposed. Very weird.
I say more or less, because I was quite befuddled to discover the much touted "glass" really wasn't glass at all. It would bend under a slight pressure. So it's probably just a very hard kind of plastic. Glass wouldn't bend like that. Which makes sense, since this will not shatter after a fall.
I had also read the LCD was glued to the glass lid for added strength. Well apparently it's not (or it wouldn't move!).
The side effect of this not being glass is that you could see the uneven flatness just by moving left and right in front of the computer. The double reflections would not move in concert...
I'm still getting the 15" unibody, but will sell it as soon as the glass-less + anti-glare is available. And I hope someone creates a black stick-on bezel because that black rubber joint sure looks out of place in the middle of a grey bezel.
I could be wrong about these assumptions. But until then, I'll believe my eyes.
Sorry if this has been asked, but it's unsearchable, and the Apple specs page doesn't say:
Is the anti-glare screen LED backlit? Also, does it use the same components as the glossy (sans display, of course)?
Is the anti-glare screen LED backlit? Also, does it use the same components as the glossy (sans display, of course)?
I have only the word of the Apple reps at MWSF09, but the display itself is exactly the same. They removed the glass, filled out the aluminum bezel, and applied a matte coating, but otherwise they're the same.
And then, there's hope the 15" unibody can also be stripped of the glass part... I mean, DIY-style...