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catdog02481

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Oct 23, 2003
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Actually, in my family, the most reliable computers have been the IBMs (not so much the Lenovos; I think quality control declined after Lenovo bought the ThinkPad division) and the Apples. The Toshibas, Sonys, and Dells that we've had were all unreliable and had constant problems. It's more of a case of You Got Unlucky. I've seen people with Toshibas, Sonys, and Dells without any problems (given that my family has run through 4 Vaios, 2 Tecras, and 5 Optiplexes, though, you'd think statistics would be in our favor).

Wish I could say the same; I have had to return my previous A31p for two motherboard changes and my R50p for one motherboard change and my T60p for a screen that developed a line. None of my apples ever suffered such woes except for the egg frying MBP rev. A overheating....
 

Zwhaler

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Jun 10, 2006
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arkitect said:
"The MacBook Air gives me an impression that its manufacturing plant packaged the computer exactly as ordered by Apple."

They say that as if it is a bad thing.
:confused:

Very odd indeed, when I hear someone say that it inclines me to buy!
 

Dekimasu

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Jan 17, 2008
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These past few weeks, I've seen the Air twice in the Apple Store in downtown Osaka. I've heard nothing but raves from shoppers in the store, and there are still lines of people waiting to cop a feel despite the six machines on display. Engineering community aside, Apple seems to have the marketing aspects covered here.
 

catdog02481

macrumors regular
Oct 23, 2003
109
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Boston, MA
I read this article from Tech-On... and they are saying some interesting things about the MacBook Air's construction:



linkie: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080220/147736/

I am kinda upset because i have played with the Air in my local Apple store and the machine is definitely more solid than a MBP could ever be. Maybe all of those screws at to the durability.

If so, the I hope that the next MBP has the same solid feel as the MBA.

And this quote:

I read this article from Tech-On... and they are saying some interesting things about the MacBook Air's construction:



Supports a lot of users opinions about Apple's construction, especially in their laptops. They just simply suck, and don't cut it compared to the competition. I hope Apple improves on their QC and built quality.... especially in their laptops.

This is the biggest sore loser comment i have ever seen. The MBA is better built than every other japanese laptop i have owned from Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic and Fujitsu. The MBA gives a unique feeling of solid contruction that is unavailable in any other laptop that I know. All Vaio subnotebooks i have owned crekaed and oozed of poor quality. I mean look at the way the isight light is recessed behind thin aluminum, same with the power light and check out the IR remote control receiver, exquisite.
Sore losers is what i say; maybe these engineers need a visit to Cupertino, maybe Sony should have a design studio in CA...
 
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This is the biggest sore loser comment i have ever seen. The MBA is better built than every other japanese laptop i have owned from Sony, Toshiba, Panasonic and Fujitsu. The MBA gives a unique feeling of solid contruction that is unavailable in any other laptop that I know. All Vaio subnotebooks i have owned crekaed and oozed of poor quality. I mean look at the way the isight light is recessed behind thin aluminum, same with the power light and check out the IR remote control receiver, exquisite.
Sore losers is what i say; maybe these engineers need a visit to Cupertino, maybe Sony should have a design studio in CA...

I couldn't agree more. I've owned many notebooks and the construction of the MBA is one of the best. It is light but solid, I could not be happier with my purchase.
 

Sesshi

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Jun 3, 2006
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They say that as if it is a bad thing.
:confused:

It is, when what you know is style and not engineering.

This was probably a make-or-break product in terms of image and potential major build-quality issues for Apple, and it is quite possible that the original specs got pared down in order to meet (Jobs?) need for user confidence.

It is undoubtedly the best-made Macbook that I have used (which is not a compliment, since in the overall scheme of quality makers the Macbook Pro may as well be made out of paper and screwed together by ADD chimps), and the fit & finish is now finally in line with Apple's competitors at the similarly priced end. But the point of the Japanese engineers is that the sturdiness and major hike in customer-perceived build quality has come at the expense of inefficient engineering, because the engineers for the Air didn't have the skills to optimise function vs build vs weight.

Apple must have realised fairly early on into the design process that given their design's visual impact and the majority of the customer baase, they can hype through any functional deficiencies.
 
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