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Does anyone know if you can use the new flat 35 W charger with the 14 pro? any negatives to this other than slower charging?
It should work but it is recommended to feed it with wattage equal or more than PSU it came with. In my case my monitor USB-C PD output 60W, so I rather plug in my 67" MagSafe charger too (and to make sure I feed "clean" power to my MacBook).
 

Fatus_Asticus

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The problem with under voting your charger is you are going to be constantly pulling from the battery when in use. Makes me wonder sometimes these people that have low cycles and low battery health what exactly they did.
 

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The problem with under voting your charger is you are going to be constantly pulling from the battery when in use. Makes me wonder sometimes these people that have low cycles and low battery health what exactly they did.
That is possible but it would require big part of the use being something where machine pulls over 35W which would mean rather demaning use.
 

resolutiontime

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I tend to run CoconutBattery in the menu bar to see how much wattage is being drawn. I find my M1 Air usually pulls ~5 watts and often down to 2.5 watts or so. The last Intel i5 Air I had was consistently pulling 10-15 watts, which translated to 5-6 hours battery life if I was lucky, with plenty of heat and blowing fans the whole time.

Been buying Macs since 1999 and I've never ever seen as dramatic (and cheap!) of an upgrade as the M1 chip brought.
What about the MBP M1 Pro?
thanks
 

TinyMito

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MBP M1 Pro, 50% brightness idle at ~5 watts. The M1 Pro chip CPU is the same across all M1 chip (small % Ghz diff + 2 extra cores full fat chip). The major diff is the GPU side and video processors.

I have an Intel MacBook Pro 13" 2020, the battery life is day and night compare to my 14" M1 Pro.
 
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MBP M1 Pro, 50% brightness idle at ~5 watts.
Also it is hovering around 5W in light use, light browsing web or email and such. Just few short peaks above that. I could get by with just about 7% battery use in an hour of light use.
 

chrono1081

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Hey All,

I don't pay attention to Apple claims or think their "testing" is practical.

You should. Their battery claims are generally really accurate. I don't even know how much time I get out of my M1 MacBook Pro or M2 Air because they never die throughout the entire day (12+ hours of Xcode work + web + gaming + whatever else I feel like doing). I just plug them in each night and they still have a good amount of battery left.
 
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eelpout

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I have both a 10th gen i7 HP and an MBP 14 and yes, the M1 is far superior for battery life, likely twice the time. :) Of course my HP has a 4K OLED which saps 20-25% more over an IPS screen easily.

that being said, my MBP 14's battery life has recently taken a turn for the worse. When I use to average more than 10-12 hours, I now get closer to 6. Not sure what happened. It's either the latest OS update, all that Adobe Creative Cloud background process nonsense or something happened to MS Edge perhaps.

As an example I'm sitting at 63% left with an estimate of 3 hours left according to iStatMenus, which has been pretty accurate when it was going for hours longer. Battery health at 99%. I'm pretty careful with charging and use Al Dente to cap it to 85%.

Now going though all the processes to see if I can figure out what's happening. Sigh, thought I was done with this when ARM arrived. ;)

EDIT: appears to be Microsoft Edge, this is a new issue and never use to be a problem. Have to delve into it further.
 
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I have both a 10th gen i7 HP and an MBP 14 and yes, the M1 is far superior for battery life, likely twice the time. :) Of course my HP has a 4K OLED which saps 20-25% more over an IPS screen easily.

that being said, my MBP 14's battery life has recently taken a turn for the worse. When I use to average more than 10-12 hours, I now get closer to 6. Not sure what happened. It's either the latest OS update, all that Adobe Creative Cloud background process nonsense or something happened to MS Edge perhaps.

As an example I'm sitting at 63% left with an estimate of 3 hours left according to iStatMenus, which has been pretty accurate when it was going for hours longer. Battery health at 99%. I'm pretty careful with charging and use Al Dente to cap it to 85%.

Now going though all the processes to see if I can figure out what's happening. Sigh, thought I was done with this when ARM arrived. ;)

EDIT: appears to be Microsoft Edge, this is a new issue and never use to be a problem. Have to delve into it further.
Glad you figured it out. I'll use Al Dente to cap not overcharge and heat the battery more.

OT: That's a funny avatar. I couldn't figure out what that was.
 

Brachaci

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I am just done using my MB14 M1 Pro base model for the first day. I've been actively using it during the day most of the time.
Mostly coding in IntelliJ, browsing, mailing, playing music, using OneNote, streaming via sidecar, using UC to my iPad Pro and iMac 27. I used Safari 100% of the time and brightness was never above half. Most of the time close to half but never above. I haven't had installed coconut battery at that time, so I cannot say what was the wattage drain during the heaviest usage, however I got close to 9 hours of screen on time with 15% battery left.

I am not exactly surprised in both negative or positive way. My previous MBP was the 2011 MBP 17 and with new battery it lasted around 7h on full charge, so I expected something like 9-10 hours with the MBP 14.

I must say, that I am running Ventura 13.0, so there is still space for improvement in terms of app optimisation and battery drain so time will tell.
IMHO it is safe to say that for the next couple months the battery performance should get better because the SW updates both from Apple and 3rd party developers, but only time will tell how the battery will degrade over time. In the long run this depends on lot of small things, but my 17 MBP lasted after 5 years around 3-4 hours on one charge, which was not bad considering it was my daily notebook and I have charged it also on a daily basis.
 

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On my 14' Pro, I lose an estimated 10% Battery per hour. This has been my Week.*I've been on Ventura as soon as it came out, I am on 13.0.1 now and feel like battery life has improved over 13.0.0*
I mainly use Safari, and have given up on Orion, the hassle wasn't worth it. Last Saturday I was playing F1 2017, which explains the almost 200% Battery Usage that day. I am a little concerned when it comes to the longevity of 14', sure it performs well, but if I can't use it for more than half a day, I don't know if it was truly the right purchase. I Usually use it on ~50% Brightness, Airdrop/Bluetooth are always on.
 

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VanWinkle

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On my 14' Pro, I lose an estimated 10% Battery per hour. This has been my Week.*I've been on Ventura as soon as it came out, I am on 13.0.1 now and feel like battery life has improved over 13.0.0*
I mainly use Safari, and have given up on Orion, the hassle wasn't worth it. Last Saturday I was playing F1 2017, which explains the almost 200% Battery Usage that day. I am a little concerned when it comes to the longevity of 14', sure it performs well, but if I can't use it for more than half a day, I don't know if it was truly the right purchase. I Usually use it on ~50% Brightness, Airdrop/Bluetooth are always on.
Ten hours of battery life is amazing for a laptop. Even more impressive for a very powerful laptop.

It only seems like it might not be that impressive because there are certain Apple silicon chip laptops that perform better. But compared to 95% of Windows laptops, and Intel Macbooks, it's got fantastic battery life.
 
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