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CubeHacker

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Apr 22, 2003
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Do we know how many zones the mini led on the Macbooks have? Apple doesn't seem to publish this information like they do for their Pro display.
 

Technerd108

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Oct 24, 2021
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I have an HP Spectre w ith a 4k Amoled display. I bought it specifically for the screen because I wanted to see what a difference OLED makes. It is not as big a deal as I had thought. That being said AMOLED screen is very nice. I just recently purchased a 16" MBP M1 and the screen is amazing! Comparing them side by side it is hard to tell any difference. Obviously the 4K OLED screen has a higher resolution but again it is hard to tell.

I really don't notice blooming. All screens do it to an extent that aren't OLED.

Honestly considering you don't have to worry about burn in or screen degradation like you would in an OLED display and I doubt it could hit the high brightness the mini LED seems like the best solution for now. Also Pro Motion? I don't know of any large OLED screens with high refresh rate so that is also an advantage to the mini LED.

Honestly this is one of the nicest Laptop screens available on the market. OLED is better but not by a significant margin that my old eyes can see anyway!
 

bill-p

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Jul 23, 2011
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Display is the most important aspect of a laptop for me personally with my usage. I'm wondering what you guys think of the MBP's mini led display vs oled displays. Oled is supposed to be better than mini led for black levels and contrast, not too dissimilar, but definitely better. The thing is mbp's are better than other laptops in every other area. So it's difficult for me to go for an oled when the mbp is better everywhere else.

My MacBook's screen:
- Gets plenty bright. 1000 nits is blinding even in a bright environment. It is plainly visible even outdoors.
- Has poor response time that leads to motion blur. At slow refresh rate, like for 24Hz/30Hz movies, I don't notice this as much but at 120Hz, it is very apparent.
- In actual use, SDR peak brightness is limited to 500 nits, just like any past MacBook, so aside from having a bit of extra contrast, which causes eye strain potentially depending on how much extra contrast, it's fine otherwise.
- No image retention whatsoever.
- Colors are highly accurate out of the box... although calibration has been a pain point. Hopefully Apple addresses calibration soon.

Compared to my LG CX:
- The MacBook's screen is much brighter even when it's limited to 500 nits. The LG CX seems to reach 500 - 600 nits only in smaller regions. It's typically around 350 nits or just about over half the MacBook's display at its absolute brightest. Basically, brightness is not even with this monitor.
- Does have slight image retention. If I leave the same high contrast (white window on dark background) on for long enough (typically around 2-3 hours), then the image will stay around for about 10 minutes or so.
- Response time is much better than the MacBook. There is no motion blur at 120Hz.
- Color calibration is... okay, but slight discoloration and banding in darker scenes seem inevitable. Overall, I'd say the MacBook display has higher color accuracy.

So each has its own benefits. As a computer screen that does not have to constantly display motion, I think the MacBook's display is decent. For movies and games and any moving content, I'd definitely prefer the LG CX overall.
 

MK500

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Aug 28, 2009
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Display is the most important aspect of a laptop for me personally with my usage. I'm wondering what you guys think of the MBP's mini led display vs oled displays. Oled is supposed to be better than mini led for black levels and contrast, not too dissimilar, but definitely better. The thing is mbp's are better than other laptops in every other area. So it's difficult for me to go for an oled when the mbp is better everywhere else.
After seeing my wife's OLED iPhone after a few years use as well as a few friends' OLED TVs that are 5 years old; I do not think I would ever buy an OLED. I tend to keep my laptops for 7 to 10 years and TVs for 15 to 20, so I do not like this concept of consumable panels that degrade after 3 to 5 years of normal use.

The black levels and HDR on my 14" Max are stunning.
 

Serengeti1

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Nov 23, 2021
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I have an HP Spectre w ith a 4k Amoled display. I bought it specifically for the screen because I wanted to see what a difference OLED makes. It is not as big a deal as I had thought. That being said AMOLED screen is very nice. I just recently purchased a 16" MBP M1 and the screen is amazing! Comparing them side by side it is hard to tell any difference. Obviously the 4K OLED screen has a higher resolution but again it is hard to tell.

I really don't notice blooming. All screens do it to an extent that aren't OLED.

Honestly considering you don't have to worry about burn in or screen degradation like you would in an OLED display and I doubt it could hit the high brightness the mini LED seems like the best solution for now. Also Pro Motion? I don't know of any large OLED screens with high refresh rate so that is also an advantage to the mini LED.

Honestly this is one of the nicest Laptop screens available on the market. OLED is better but not by a significant margin that my old eyes can see anyway!
Do you feel like one of the displays looks better outside of the resolution being higher on the spectre? I read someone say they thought the MBP display was better than the OLED xps display. Apparently more colour accurate. Seems that it's not a given that a display will be better simply because it's OLED.
 

Serengeti1

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Original poster
Nov 23, 2021
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My MacBook's screen:
- Gets plenty bright. 1000 nits is blinding even in a bright environment. It is plainly visible even outdoors.
- Has poor response time that leads to motion blur. At slow refresh rate, like for 24Hz/30Hz movies, I don't notice this as much but at 120Hz, it is very apparent.
- In actual use, SDR peak brightness is limited to 500 nits, just like any past MacBook, so aside from having a bit of extra contrast, which causes eye strain potentially depending on how much extra contrast, it's fine otherwise.
- No image retention whatsoever.
- Colors are highly accurate out of the box... although calibration has been a pain point. Hopefully Apple addresses calibration soon.

Compared to my LG CX:
- The MacBook's screen is much brighter even when it's limited to 500 nits. The LG CX seems to reach 500 - 600 nits only in smaller regions. It's typically around 350 nits or just about over half the MacBook's display at its absolute brightest. Basically, brightness is not even with this monitor.
- Does have slight image retention. If I leave the same high contrast (white window on dark background) on for long enough (typically around 2-3 hours), then the image will stay around for about 10 minutes or so.
- Response time is much better than the MacBook. There is no motion blur at 120Hz.
- Color calibration is... okay, but slight discoloration and banding in darker scenes seem inevitable. Overall, I'd say the MacBook display has higher color accuracy.

So each has its own benefits. As a computer screen that does not have to constantly display motion, I think the MacBook's display is decent. For movies and games and any moving content, I'd definitely prefer the LG CX overall.
I have the CX as well too. There's not a ton between them to be fair. Obviously the CX is better as it's a huge TV but yeah. Laptop mini led looks a bit better than OLED on Iphone generally imo... after comparing. OLED displays on phones use different technology than OLED on TV's though. I compared all three displays rigorously and came to the conclusion that each one looks better depending on what it's displaying. I have an OLED switch too. Would be interesting to compare that as well as it's a bigger display than my phone.
 

UBS28

macrumors 68030
Oct 2, 2012
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Display is the most important aspect of a laptop for me personally with my usage. I'm wondering what you guys think of the MBP's mini led display vs oled displays. Oled is supposed to be better than mini led for black levels and contrast, not too dissimilar, but definitely better. The thing is mbp's are better than other laptops in every other area. So it's difficult for me to go for an oled when the mbp is better everywhere else.

OLED have limited lifespan and are not getting bright.

Also the OLED display in my iPhone is not as good as the mini-LED from my M1 Max MBP and M1 12.9 iPad Pro.

Only the mini-LED display are getting near my Samsung 4K TV (but obviously still inferior to my Samsung TV)
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
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Perth, Western Australia
Display is the most important aspect of a laptop for me personally with my usage. I'm wondering what you guys think of the MBP's mini led display vs oled displays. Oled is supposed to be better than mini led for black levels and contrast, not too dissimilar, but definitely better. The thing is mbp's are better than other laptops in every other area. So it's difficult for me to go for an oled when the mbp is better everywhere else.

Put it this way, the black on my M1 14" is black enough that you can not see the notch against the display background when set to black.

I'm massively impressed with the 14" display.
 
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Apple Knowledge Navigator

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Mar 28, 2010
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Depends on what conditions you intend to use the benefits of extreme contrast and dynamic range.

Under normal lighting scenarios, I think mini-LED actually has greater benefits than OLED. However, if you were situated in a dark room producing work for photography/video, then you would want to adjust the lighting accordingly n order to minimise blooming.

But from my own experiences, I genuinely would be hard pressed to tell the differences and am very, very happy with the display.
 
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