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Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

1-That a fact? I've heard otherwise many times over.
2-Then stick with your POS $399 laptop.
3-I will hunt down and beat up the Apple designer who puts a memory card reader into a laptop. They're ugly and for the most part unnecessary.
4-No ****? When did this become news?
5-Not sure what you're getting at here...
6-Uh...I can send and receive faxes from every Mac (with a modem) running Panther and up, but I only use that functionality about 3-4 times a year.
 
Trollin' along...

I USE memory cards and FAX in daily manner! I cannot WORK without them. You people are talking about "student" discounts! I thought Apple made MB for students, not MBPs!

Sure I need to pay for Vista, but I didn't pay MS $2500+ for my PC laptop! Wake up fanboy!

You are an idiot. Stop wasting our time.
 
Get Real, Man

Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

1- Chill man, chillll hehehehe
2- Get it checked out man, that's what support is there for :)
3- http://www.welovemacs.com/pcme51.html - problem solved :confused:
4- Even you've admitted that you're being silly on this one - new OS = new features (you want it so bad and you want it for free???) :confused:
5- MagSafe connectors - explain yourself.. Are they worse than standard plug-in ones? :confused:
6- www.efax.com :confused:

Surely you can relax after that man - i've made the effort to help you out.. Don't hate the MacFolks for not taking a freakin stressed out view on things - chilllllll hehehehe... :D :D :cool: :D :D

cApO
 
Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

1- Don't buy one
2- Don't buy one
3- Don't buy one
4- Don't buy one
5- Don't buy one
6- are you freaking serious? (It's an option that you can order...)
 
Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

1- No, it's not. 117F on mine right now. 3F lower than my Wife's Dell
2- Your opinion.. mine is beautiful.
3- your camera doesn't have USB2? buy a new camera.
4- you need to pay for Vista when it's released
5- don't stick it in your mouth.
6- see above
 
oh yeah...

Why the F* do I care why you don't want one??

Did you register at ProbeTalk.com and tell them why you don't want a Ford Probe?

I don't get people...
 
fargo said:
Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

oh my god the op is hilarious. :p everyone's replies are great. and true. i'll add my $0.02.
1. What do "notebooks" have to do with anything? They're actually called "portables" as in portable computer. However, yes a lot of people have been complaining about the "heat" but I personally do not use this machine and all its power on my LAP.
2. What is so "bad" about it?
3. You can buy a card reader for five friggin dollars if it's such a big deal. I don't see why having it built in would be of any advantage. Like Transeau said, just use a USB cable.
4. And just because you threw down $2000 for a laptop, you'd want everything else for free? Yeah, Apple should just give us all 20" ACDs while they're at it.
5. Oh please. After several study groups in a busy dorm, I sure am glad I had a MagSafe adapter.
6. It's as simple as buying a USB Modem. Fax is built into the OS. :rolleyes:
 
memory card reader? Do you want to make your MBP look like some trash HP with all those slots? when doing small things my mbp is COOL to the touch.
 
he he, my turn, pleeeeaaaaaaaaaaase :D

1- it's nice in the winter :D
2- no true ...:rolleyes:
3- i will pay more just to get it WITHOUT memcard reader :D
4- and window$ is free????????!!!!!!!!!
5- what do you mean :confused:
6- whats Fax??
 
I don't work for Apple, but I feel like I have to make apologize for all those issues you brought.
I agree. Definitely, MBP is not the one you are looking for.
I'm very kind enough to find something else for you. - You will love it.
It can send/receive fax, has memory card reader, and has nice LCD!!
It looks a bit heavy, but you didn't mention about the weight, so I guess it would be OK.

6-in-1 Color Inkjet Multi-Function Center® (Fax/Print/Copy/Scan/PC Fax/PhotoCapture Center®). Packed with features, this all-in-one is based on the traditional sheetfed design but also adds features usually only found in flatbed products. The MFC-3340cn combines high resolution printing, scanning and copying with a digital camera memory card reader and adds both a USB interface to directly connect to your computer and an Ethernet interface to connect to your network router to share printing, scanning, sending faxes as well as access to the PhotoCapture Center® feature.

http://www.copiersuperstore.com/brother-3340.html
 
I don't work for Apple, but I feel like I have to make apologize for all those issues you brought.
I agree. Definitely, MBP is not the one you are looking for.
I'm very kind enough to find something else for you. - You will love it.
hehe Funny...
To threadstarter; get another laptop, some cheap PC will probably work, and it has much of those things you want. I want a topnotch machine for video and graphic-work, not ONE of the points you meantion applies to me, unless the screens are far worse that I think, I don't buy that it's as bad as it seems on this forum.
 
... You people are talking about "student" discounts! I thought Apple made MB for students, not MBPs!

For a matter of Fact MBP are for students, my University requires that anyone that is a Music or CBA (Cinema and Broadcast Arts) Major to have a MBP.

I am a Audio Recording major with a CBA minor.... I need a MBP to run Sclupture and do all the sound modelling I do and all the editing and Shake projects i do.

Seriously Fargo, open your eyes... and realize that some of the students here need that extra power or the dedicated graphics card.
 
All these funny replies and not a single one being rational!

Consumers pay premium for Apple "notebooks" and expect to have the best. Why pay double the price for an Apple notebook and keep it for the chance to have a good LCD?! Why to pay that much of money and rely on third party software to control its temp?! Why to pay $2500+ for a computer and not having features that are found in cheaper alternatives? Why do I need to pay a lot of money and risk getting molten MagSafe adapter? Is it because of Mac OS X? Sooner or later, someone will come up with a way to run that OS on PCs. Then what?

Having one of the current MBPs is just like buying a Lexus with small radiator and no A/C!
 
All these funny replies and not a single one being rational!

Consumers pay premium for Apple "notebooks" and expect to have the best. Why pay double the price for an Apply notebook and keep it for the chance to have a good LCD?! Why to pay that much of money and reply on a third party software to control its temp?! Why to pay $2500+ for a computer and not having features that are found in cheaper alternatives? Why do I need to pay a lot of money and risk getting molten MagSafe adapter? Is it because of Mac OS X? Sooner or later, someone will come up with a way to run that OS on PCs. Then what?

Having one of the current MBPs is just like buying a Lexus with small radiator and no A/C!

People already have found ways to run OS X on regular hardware. It requires a lot of work and breaking laws, but it can be done. The "premium" you keep talking about is a lot of things. OS X and its hardware are very tightly integrated causing very few problems. A lot of people forget to factor in the iLife software into the cost of the computer. It looks like it is free, but it really isn't.

The heat is NOT bad. I was worried that it was going to burn my pants up from reading what everyone was saying. After using it doing heavy Adobe illustrator and Photoshop today I can say the heat is a insignificant annoyance (like every notebook out there). Comparing the heat of the MBP to "a lexus with a small radiator and no A/C" is a funny way to put it... But you forgot that this Lexus is a convertible. If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Just use small cooling pad for goodness sake.
 
All these funny replies and not a single one being rational!

Where is the evidence that the LCD's are worse than any other laptop/portable/notebook?
Where is the rationality in your original post? The Magsafe not being safe? Then you wouldn't find any Dell or Sony laptop/portable/notebook safe I presume? I mean they had batteries exploding :eek:

I think you've been provided with a lot of good reasons for why people disagree with you, so I want go further into that - I would however like a bit more information about why you feel the way you do.

No matter what, I think we will just have to agree to disagree on things like built-in card-readers and modem which I don't see any reason to have. But of course, I don't need it either... (since I use an external card reader, or plug my camera right into one of the USB-ports).
 
All these funny replies and not a single one being rational!

I think yours are the funny ones. :D

fargo said:
Sooner or later, someone will come up with a way to run that OS on PCs. Then what?

Driver conflict/installation issues, that's what. One of the reasons for the Mac's stability is that Apple knows exactly what hardware their computers are running on and installs the drivers before they get sent out, so you never have to deal with installing them or them conflicting themselves.

Seriously, if you buy a $3000 Alienware and then they come out with a new model, do you honestly expect them to replace your now-old model with a new model for FREE?
 
Macbook Pro's dont even have SWEET multi-colored LED's or Awesome graphics on them. How am I supposed to look professional at the office without a laptop that glows like a 16 year olds 1996 Honda Civic?
 
Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

Oh where to start.


1. The nature of the laptop makes it s natural heatsink. That and with tools like smcfancontrol heat becomes a nonissue since you can control the fan speed yourself. Turn it all the way up and the system never gets above 100*.

2. I highly doubt that. Just because you see issues with some people's LCD's doesn't mean they all suck. And I can tell you as someone who works on Dell Laptops day in and day out a $400 Dell DOES NOT have better screens then Mac laptops. Period. Quality, brightness, refresh rates, all are...well its a $400 system.

3. http://www.atechflash.com/products-proexpress7.html :rolleyes:

4. :rolleyes: There isn't even a release date for the OS. Hell if you purchase a Windows laptop you may or may not get a free upgrade to Vista. Heck the hoops you have to jump through for that upgrade is pretty substantial.

5. Whatever.... The whole magsafe meltdown crap doesn't make any sense. The only possibility is if crud has gotten into the magsafe plug area of the laptop. I had this happen once and cleaned it out with a quetip. Its possible the thing isn't grounded right which could have caused problems.

6. Buy an external USB modem or get an internet faxing account. Modems need to die. You demand one. I'm glad they got rid of it because I haven't used a modem in 6 years. In the beginning Apple was the first to drop the floppy and people called them nuts. It was a bold move as is the removal of the modem. Its time has come.

The only real gripe would be the GPU being somewhat meh. Apple underclocks the GPU due to the need to keep the laptop in the thermal envelope before it overheats. If they wouldn't have this insane need to be 1" they could easily fit a better GPU. All things considered. *shrugs*
 
Why to pay that much of money and rely on third party software to control its temp?!
Oh, you mean like this third party application that controls the temp of Dell laptops?

http://www.diefer.de/i8kfan/index.html

Consumers pay premium for Apple "notebooks" and expect to have the best.
I don't mind paying a premium to not have to lug a plastic suitcase around. Below is a picture of my roommates "inexpensive" 15" Dell notebook side-by-side to a 15" Apple notebook. Notice a slight difference in mass?
 

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Here are my 6 reasons not to buy C2D MBP now:

1- MBPs are hot, even after C2D. (Apple insists on calling them "notebooks")
2- Bad LCDs! Even worst than my son's $399 PC laptop's matte LCD.
3- No memory cards reader!
4- Need to pay for Leopard when it is released!
5- Megsafe connecters are not really safe!
6- No FAX!

I hope Apple can either solve these issues or lower the prices.

So, you'd consider getting a hot, unsafe "notebook" with a bad LCD and without a memory card reader and fax option (both of which you need to do your job) if they were cheaper? Not quite sure I get the logic there...
 
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