No, I'm afraid I don't still buy that. The next iPhone is newer than the Incredible, so it should OBVIOUSLY be better. Therefore, there's no point in comparing. If they were both released on the same day, fine, compare them. But as they weren't you can't. If that logic applies to 10 months (which some seem to think is perfectly long enough to fully develop and release a product, nevermind that Apple spent YEARS developing the iPhone), then the same logic applies to 1 day.
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No, I'm afraid I don't still buy that. The next iPhone is newer than the Incredible, so it should OBVIOUSLY be better. Therefore, there's no point in comparing. If they were both released on the same day, fine, compare them. But as they weren't you can't. If that logic applies to 10 months (which some seem to think is perfectly long enough to fully develop and release a product, nevermind that Apple spent YEARS developing the iPhone), then the same logic applies to 1 day.
Still... Plenty of people do care and that's why they cared about the 3Gs.
I started that thread and I'm not an Android Fanboy. I have an iPhone 3G and don't have an Android phone. I have played with some though and I plan to buy an Android phone next but keep my iPhone. I like gadgets.
Since you posted about negative experiences there I'm sure you realize it's not just an Android Love-Fest. There is actual comparison and help for people debating switching or recently switching to or from Android. There's a lot of good info and not very much fanboyism on either side.I understand that. The phone mentioned runs Sense UI though. I realize the N1 doesn't though. Personally, I didn't care for the stock UI on my parents phone either. My little brother has a Hero with the Sense UI and I felt that it was a HUGE improvement and actually quite polished.
Essentially, polished is relative.
That's ridiculous. You're saying that products released two months apart are just as low-quality of comparables as products that are released 10 months apart?
Do you know what an OS is?
By your logic the iPhone OS is no good as it's just a 3rd party overlaying interface doing what Darwin failed to do...
It doesn't matter how it was created. Android is open source and Sense UI is custom built FROM that. Not just on top of. So yes. that would constitute as a more polished version.
Also, when was I arguing specs? It's about the end package. That's why I said if you want a higher spec'd phone the Incredible is for you. If you want an iPhone the iPhone is for you. I never once told everyone here to get the Incredible because it's spec'd better.
Well unless I have missed the time travelling part, the ONLY Apple mobile phone product we have to compare it to is the 3GS. There's no ifs or buts, no excuses. If that's what Apple has out NOW, that's what it is compared to. You can't defer any comparisons just because Apple haven't yet released their new product! That's Apple's problem, not HTCs!
Yea... You don't... I think it's pointless. It's a phone. It doesn't need to be a heavy duty number cruncher. I'd be a HUGE battery drain. What kind of multitasking do you plan to do? It's got a phone sized screen. It's not like you'll be running a game and a word processor all at once. Even having a web browser running along with 3 other apps. The screen is the biggest limitation to multitasking and an dual core CPU isn't going to help.
We'd be better off seeing more memory in these devices and better graphics chips first... In my opinion at least.
Seem to remember about ten months ago the Palm tied with or was narrowly beaten by the iPhone. That didn't seem to mean a whole lot, did it?
Personally, I'll be upgrading my Apple stuff for more Apple stuff for years to come and don't feel like I need to make any apologies
Personally, I'll be upgrading my Apple stuff for more Apple stuff for years to come and don't feel like I need to make any apologies
It shouldn't use more power...actually maybe less.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/186737/mobile_snapdragon_processor_to_hit_15ghz_dualcore_in_2010.html
When there is a will there is a way.
Just because you can't imagine a reason why someone would ned a dual core processor in mobile device doesn't mean there won't be in the future. I personally never thought there would ever be a 1 TB hard drive. I mean what does someone need all that space for. Idiots!
Now I have one and thank god I do.
It shouldn't use more power...actually maybe less.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/186737/mobile_snapdragon_processor_to_hit_15ghz_dualcore_in_2010.html
When there is a will there is a way.
Just because you can't imagine a reason why someone would ned a dual core processor in mobile device doesn't mean there won't be in the future. I personally never thought there would ever be a 1 TB hard drive. I mean what does someone need all that space for. Idiots!
Interesting... Cool.
That's the problem with buying gadgets... There's always something on the horizon if you're willing to wait.
Wow fanboy. We are comparing Apple's CURRENT iPhone to the latest and greatest Android phone. Who gives a **** if the 3GS is ten months old? Maybe Apple should get off their lazy asses, and release a fricken new phone. sadly, it will still be under featured even when it ships.
First off, calm down.
Many people who are debating whether to buy the Incredible now or wait a month for the new iPhone.
You're correct, its specs will probably not be as good as the latest and greatest Android phone. Nearly everyone on this forum realizes that and we don't care that much. Get it?
Many people who are debating whether to buy the Incredible now or wait a month for the new iPhone.
You're correct, its specs will probably not be as good as the latest and greatest Android phone. Nearly everyone on this forum realizes that and we don't care that much. Get it?
What he's talking about is that you would be comparing 2 new model phones.
The level playing field for the 3GS was the G2 and the Hero.
Both of which the 3GS outclassed along with the Palm Pré.
Now I'm not saying the new iPhone would win. Who knows? but you are a bare faced troll.
Interesting... Cool.
That's the problem with buying gadgets... There's always something on the horizon if you're willing to wait.
Yeah did you know that the GPU in the current iPhone blows away the Snapdragon?
The GPU in the 3GS is not even close to being used at it's full potential in the app store. Look at how many games run the same on 3G vs 3GS... The 3GS could be pushed harder at the cost of alienating 3G users.
Though I'm a Mac/Linux user .. yes Windows is far superior to both to the market at large. Both Mac and Linux are better at their respective niches, but the market has spoken loudly with respect to Windows / Mac.
I love Apple, but money talks in all big business. It enables further investment and innovation. Steve knows he can never out invest Microsoft, so he's stopped trying. That's why this years WWDC is all about Mobile. Steve has a huge lead there and is intending to focus all his significant investment in Mobile to nuture and cement that advantage. He's no longer really interested in beating Windows head to head. He'll happily take what conversions he gets as a result of the iXXX ecosystem, but that's no longer a priority.
That will be really evident when people realize how long it's going to be until we see the predecessor to Snow Leopard, and then see how little it innovates....
I agree with everything you said. A lot of people here tend to argue about how much Windows sucks and Mac is better but then point out how the iPhone is better because of sales...
Really they both come down to what you need.
But If Joe Shmoe the consumer doesn't look at MacRumors, and wants a new phone NOW, not in June, It would make since comparing Apple's CURRENT offerings to the other CURRENt offerings on the market. What the retarded fanboys say is that we are comparing the "Incredible" ugly android phone which is current to the 10 month iPhone. Well the 10 month iPhone is the current iPhone sold by Apple, so it makes since to compare it. Yes next month, we can compare them again and see who wins, but we are comparing a new phone to one thats ALREADY on the market. Clueless Joe doesn't give a rats ass about a 10 month iPhone. Apple markets and brags about their products, so it must be magical and revolutionary, even with its old washed out low pixel display.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=aapl+vs.+msft
MSFT still makes more money, but AAPL is not starving for resources. I think they'll still invest in OS development. They just know that the high growth is in mobile devices.
So what?
Ahh, you edited!
I don't think he's arguing against that. He's saying right NOW their focus is mobile. The next OSX version will probably be a mild bump if it's released any time soon. If they hold off for a couple years then we may see something bigger of course.
We all know that Apple knows the growth is in mobile devices... That's why VTMac said they are investing heavily in that market.
It's interesting to see everyone say this phone is better than that one based on specs mostly. Specs are good, but they are not everything. They are half the package.
It's the equivalent of having the fastest, most expensive car on the road but it has square tires.
My Incredible is nice as it's something new, but it's not "awesome", nor is it something I think will replace anything at this point. Were talking about the OS. Again, it has some great features but overall, I like my 3GS more. EVO will be the same way. Lots of specs, lackluster interface.
It's the equivalent of having the fastest, most expensive car on the road but it has square tires.
My Incredible is nice as it's something new, but it's not "awesome", nor is it something I think will replace anything at this point. Were talking about the OS. Again, it has some great features but overall, I like my 3GS more. EVO will be the same way. Lots of specs, lackluster interface.
It wouldn't be the fastest car with square tires... Now it could have the most powerful engine and you put the wrong fuel in it and BAM!
I think the problem with Android in the past is that it's a more robust system. Specs are more important with Android than with iPhone OS. The iPhone's OS is simple and doesn't need very much hardware. Now that we see Android with the hardware it needed to begin with, it is blowing away the iPhone OS in functionality and smoothness. Once the apps come, there really is nothing holding it back from overtaking the iPhone.
My Nexus One isn't nearly as smooth as my old 3GS. Not even close. Add to that the fact that the apps in general aren't nearly as developed than the ones on the app store, those are two pretty big differences. Will the apps become just as developed? I doubt it; even though Android is grabbing large marketshare and using a lot of data, they just aren't selling that many apps. The money isn't there yet.