Yeah.. Gloss finishes look awesome when they're clean, terrible when you actually have to touch them. I'm not really a fan of the trend towards gloss, though its understandable.. nothing looks better in marketing pictures..
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[Merged] Voodoo Envy, New Ultrathin Notebook
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Yeah.. Gloss finishes look awesome when they're clean, terrible when you actually have to touch them. I'm not really a fan of the trend towards gloss, though its understandable.. nothing looks better in marketing pictures..
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So - my thoughts on the Envy. I think it looks more attractive than the MBA, but I really don't like the black keyboard on the Air. Otherwise they'd be about equal aesthetically. The black gloss will wind up being a pain to keep looking nice, unfortunately. If I really required to have an ultraportable like this it would be hard to choose between the two. It probably would come down to choosing an OS. I don't own a Mac just yet (Montevina MBP will be mine) so I can't say for sure that OS X would win me over.
Edit: And the Omen - I like the Mac Pro design better. And at those kind of prices, its stupid to buy any system unless its going to be a workstation. You could build something just as fast for half the price or less, especially with a name like Alienware or Voodoo involved.
So - my thoughts on the Envy. I think it looks more attractive than the MBA, but I really don't like the black keyboard on the Air. Otherwise they'd be about equal aesthetically. The black gloss will wind up being a pain to keep looking nice, unfortunately. If I really required to have an ultraportable like this it would be hard to choose between the two. It probably would come down to choosing an OS. I don't own a Mac just yet (Montevina MBP will be mine) so I can't say for sure that OS X would win me over.
Edit: And the Omen - I like the Mac Pro design better. And at those kind of prices, its stupid to buy any system unless its going to be a workstation. You could build something just as fast for half the price or less, especially with a name like Alienware or Voodoo involved.
In the name of all that is good and holy, stop with the "it can't run OS X" bull****.
Fist of all, yes it can!
Secondly, as a previous poster said, you guys' fanboyism should not go to that much of an extreme. Using what OS it runs as an argument is merely pathetic.
Fist of all, yes it can!
Secondly, as a previous poster said, you guys' fanboyism should not go to that much of an extreme. Using what OS it runs as an argument is merely pathetic.
Hahaha... it's more wishful thinking actually... but you can mistake it as ignorance if it makes you feel good about yourself.
Dear,
Well I like the cooling/vent system of the Envy. I think it is better then the MBA fan's which are placed onderneath. I hoped apple someday will adopt it in the MBA. It is almost impossible to use the MBA in bed or on my lap when I wear my long coat.
With kind regards,
Bas
Well I like the cooling/vent system of the Envy. I think it is better then the MBA fan's which are placed onderneath. I hoped apple someday will adopt it in the MBA. It is almost impossible to use the MBA in bed or on my lap when I wear my long coat.
With kind regards,
Bas
I'm a die hard Apple fan, but I have to admit it looks really good and it has features I wish my Air had. But, in the end, it doesn't run OS X. I've got both Macs and PCs and I just find myself really hating Vista more and more.
upon further review...
I still feel the same way...
They address the shortcomings of the MBA as well. Fact is, the Voodoo is kinda sweet looking! I like the fact that the Apple MBA is being challenged to improve. Not a windows person by any stretch, but removable Battery and other improvements over the MBA make for a compelling comparison., Keep stepping your game up....
I still feel the same way...
I wasn't referring to the temperature of the case. The MBA has overheating issues and core shutdowns and such. The components aren't staying cool.
Is the Pro a workstation? Do you know what a workstation is?
With the cooling systems inside the Voodoos - which are not so far away from the cooling in one of my current PC's - it's going to be a heck of a lot better than the Pro at keeping itself cool under stress.
And right now, I much prefer Vista 64 for stability and flexibility on comparable hardware than Leopard. The cat is a real dog on these pretend workstations.
Definitely not nicer than the MBA, though if someone were to give me the white version of the voodoo I certainly wouldn't complain
I know you didn't ask for my opinion, but I'll tell you why I dislike Vista.
1.) It runs slow. I don't care how fast your computer is, it could be faster if you were running a different OS. It carries too much extra baggage, takes up too much HD space, and my old computer that was fitted with 2 GB ram reminded me more of my mother's 8 year old computer running XP with 500 megs of ram.
2.) I installed it twice and both times it ****ed up my sound drivers and I had to get a repair man to fix it, before I found a cumbersome way to do it myself. I heard this is a common fault. All I keep hearing off people who installed Vista is how it wrecks havoc with your drivers.
3.) For all its supposed "wow" it's still a pretty ugly OS. Purchase WinCustomize to make it prettier. But really, do you want to have to pay for that?
4.) It closes its native applications for "security reasons". I could not use the volume control that came with the operating system because Vista kept shutting it down due to "suspicious memory usage", or something like that.
5.) The sidebar might look good at first, but it gets extremely annoying after a while. I ended up closing it and installing a freeware dock. (Nothing like OSX's dock, but hell). Using a dock seemed more practical and native for me.
I can see why some users would prefer a PC over a Mac, (After all they're usually cheaper, and some applications only really work well on a PC) but there is - in my mind - no single excuse to switch from XP to Vista. Not one. Although obviously I'd recommend buying a mac over a PC. A friend of mine's a PC computer repairman, and he owns a mac. I don't think I need to ask him why
Not correct. I'm running Vista here on my desktop and it's faster than XP. Not only that, but it does everything faster than XP. Applications load instantly, it's rock solid, and I never had any issues with it. People that install Vista on an older machine? Sure, they will have issues. Vista is not meant for old machines - it's designed to take advantage of new hardware. I'm not a Vista fanboy - heck, I dogged it too in the beginning, but then I realized that experience really is the only answer here. Vista works great.
This sounds like an issue with your computer and not Vista. I use Vista for music production and again, it's rock solid. Vista's disk performance is much better than XP ever was. Any new OS will have some teething issues with drivers. Leopard was not exempt from this either.
That's subjective. Unlike many Apple fanboys, my OS does not have to look like a work of art - it just has to work, and Vista does that very well.
I never had that happen. Sounds like your machine has issues and Vista is not to blame.
It can be customzed any way you want. If you don't like it, don't use it. Again, this is subjective.
I can see why some users would prefer a PC over a Mac, (After all they're usually cheaper, and some applications only really work well on a PC) but there is - in my mind - no single excuse to switch from XP to Vista. Not one. Although obviously I'd recommend buying a mac over a PC. A friend of mine's a PC computer repairman, and he owns a mac. I don't think I need to ask him why
XP worked great for me, just like Vista does. On a current machine with proper hardware, Vista is faster... Much faster. Again, its disk performance fantastic, but again, on a current machine. It's a popular trend (especially here) to bash Vista, and most of these people bashing it have either never used it, or heard from a friend "that installed it on a two year old Dell". Come on people, I thought the Mac was a "think forward" machine? Vista can't be a "think forward" OS?
Let's also remember that Vista and XP don't have the luxury of being built to support a "Microsoft PC" like OSX has. I do not think Vista is perfect, but if you dig a little deeper, you'll see it can be tweaked far beyond what most people think.
Err, can I also point out that Leopard has about the same HDD footprint as Vista and actually has more lines of code? Plus it's on its third service pack already whereas Vista is on its first.
Hey, im running Vista on a brand new toshiba satellite
2GB RAM
120 GB HDD
AMD Turion 64 Dual Core
What exactly isnt good enough to supposedly run vista right?
When switching from any program to another, Explorer.EXE crashes, aim freezes up regularly, windows movie make , well, we just wont tlk about that train work.
Its sad when your opperating system has to luck into running right.
Hey, im running Vista on a brand new toshiba satellite
2GB RAM
120 GB HDD
AMD Turion 64 Dual Core
What exactly isnt good enough to supposedly run vista right?
When switching from any program to another, Explorer.EXE crashes, aim freezes up regularly, windows movie make , well, we just wont tlk about that train work.
Its sad when your opperating system has to luck into running right.
Take the porn off your machine.
But seriously, you may want to check your drivers are up to date and install SP1 if you haven't already.
Take the porn off your machine.
But seriously, you may want to check your drivers are up to date and install SP1 if you haven't already.
Or better yet, I'm willing to blame Toshiba for the bloatware they likely configured the machine with. Unfortunately, I always format and reinstall the OS on any new Dell I buy and that's been the way to go. Once done, everything is perfect.
Im no fool when it comes to my comp, ive gotten rid of any unused crap (except the vista part
), the crashing just happens when it happens.and to the guy above me i dont download porn on my comp, i just watch it via website
lol
nice computer, i especially like that it has backlit keys. i've had good experiences with hp laptops personally, but i bet you are not given an xp option on this computer. I am also one of those who would ditch vista completely if i could.
Having owner a Voodoo Envy laptop in the past I wouldn't touch one without hearing it first -- mine sounded like an airplane taking off. If you guys think that the Air fans are annoying -- whoa boy, this is a whole different level of sound.
Had to relegate mine to a lab environment where the noise didn't annoy others. Not to mention the terrible Voodoo service.
Maybe things have changed for the better since they were bought by HP, but I wouldn't never buy one again.
JT
Had to relegate mine to a lab environment where the noise didn't annoy others. Not to mention the terrible Voodoo service.
Maybe things have changed for the better since they were bought by HP, but I wouldn't never buy one again.
JT
IMO the prettiest windows based laptop. Like the minimalist style. But I still really like the Air.