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Microsoft's New Ad - What will they copy next???
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now you guys are comparing ads? this is almost hilarious. what next?
"omg, omg!!! the ceo of apple, a mr. steve jobs, someone who i otherwise don't know but is also my idol anyway, has 2 arms and legs!!! the ceo of microsoft, a mr. steve ballmer, who i despise because he is the spawn of satan, also has 2 arms and legs!!!! when will they stop copying applezzz???"
"omg, omg!!! the ceo of apple, a mr. steve jobs, someone who i otherwise don't know but is also my idol anyway, has 2 arms and legs!!! the ceo of microsoft, a mr. steve ballmer, who i despise because he is the spawn of satan, also has 2 arms and legs!!!! when will they stop copying applezzz???"
panoz7 said:
How can you argue it's different enough? Let's see spinning album art from Apple. Spinning game cover art from MS. Apple's start from the ground and builds a city. MS starts form the ground and builds a xbox tower.
As for being outraged, I'm not outraged, I'm just calling MS on their game and getting the word out there that Apple is better. Besides, the US Postal Service is not the direct competitor of Apple, like Microsoft. Hey if you are gonna copy your main competitor, be prepared to get called out if you're not smart enough to "Think Different".
jhu said:
You're participating is this discussion and throwing in your 2 cents because??? If you don't understand why people call out the other team on their screwups then you can't appreciate the game. I happen to be someone with a $$$ interest in the succes in AAPL (google it) and love to see competitors like MSFT (google it) fall flat on their face.
adiospc said:
I can't find a link to the original iTunes commercial so this is going to be based off my memory. If I'm wrong about something I admit to it now.
Apple starts from the ground up and builds a city... except that the city doesn't actually look like a photorealistic city. The buildings don't look like buildings but rather have the shape of buildings and the individual covers are still visible.
In the xbox commercial the flying covers build something. That's where the similarities end. In the xbox commercial the covers are only clearly identifiable as covers at the beginning. Once they become part of the xbox structure they change color... When the structure is completed it looks exactly like an xbox.
In my mind that's different enough.
adiospc said:
I wasn't referring to the US postal service... but rather the band "The Postal Service" The apple chip factory commercial was almost identical to the postal service's music video for "Such Great Heights." In this there was a relationship between the two party's... iTunes sells the Postal Service's music.
Apparently the same studio produced both the apple ad and the Postal Service Video. The only reason I mentioned it is because people seemed so anxious to blame the studios (which was justified) in that case rather then blaming apple. With this commercial people are doing the opposite, which I feel is only because the company is evil microsoft.
By the way, Apple is not the competitor that these commercials would be aimed at. Sony is. Apple doesn't have a product that competes with the xBox. I think the xBox is one of the few products that microsoft has done right.
If it was a zune ad I would probably feel differently...
adiospc said:
the fact that you have a financial stake makes you even more biased. i don't. it's so irrelevant, it makes no sense for people to dwell on this just because it's microsoft. come to think of it, that's the only reason why this is in discussion. if exxon/mobil, ge, alcoa, toyota, etc, did the same thing, no one would give a rat's ass.
jhu said:
I absolutely have a finanical stake now, because their stock and their company are leading the industry. If you were smart you would buy some AAPL too (You'll wish you had 10 years from now) I was a PC user and then purchased the first gen iMac G5 and came to realize how great the computer and operating system really were. Then I got smart and bought the stock in the 30's. Now that I'm a convert it's good to let people know that's there's something better out there. You must know, you own a mac too...right? I'm just rooting for the home team.
You're right, if Exxon did it no one would care, but it's Microsoft....and it's gonna be great seeing them and Dell continue to lose market share to Apple which keeps sending my stock value up
panoz7 said:
Thanks for the background into the Postal service ad.... that thread makes more sense now.
You're right MS has done a decent job with the xBox i agree. I say decent, because that's all we know until Apple comes up with something better. Maybe they will never go into that business for many reasons, but if we all keep buying their products and growing their business they just may integrate a game console in the near future.... look what they just did with the iPod and gaming. Have you played the ipod poker game yet? It's pretty cool! And isn't it just fun to talk about these things? It makes smart people smarter
adiospc said:
in my opinion, the really smart thing to do would be to buy intel.
adiospc said:You must know, you own a mac too...right? I'm just rooting for the home team.
You're right, if Exxon did it no one would care, but it's Microsoft....and it's gonna be great seeing them and Dell continue to lose market share to Apple which keeps sending my stock value up
alright, fair enough
jhu said:
Both are good to own! Hell I'll throw Google in the mix while we're at it. INTC is certainly very juicy right now, you're right! Limited growth potential though compared with Apple which has less than 10% of the PC market share, but is climbing each year. Intel still has over 60% of the market share, but has been going the other direction and losing market share for a while to AMD. Kinda like MS and Dell, they're losing market share to Apple. Besides, AAPL's gotta split near 100... and then the fun begins if you're already in!
adiospc said:
You can see one corner (less than 1/4 of screen) of the back of the lid, and from that you make the deduction that it's a Mac? Maybe it's a Vaio? Or Toshiba?
How many different ways would there be to accomplish what they are trying to accomplish? I do agree that Sidebar and Gadgets are a ripoff of Dashboard (well, sidebar itself is somewhat different from Dahsboard, but Gadgets and Widgets is quite obvious). But that said, Dashboard and Widgets weren't really that innovative either.
AFAIk, they already have something similar to Time Machine (without the spiffy UI that is), and virtual desktops have been available as an add-on for years. And besides, virtual desktops are about 20 year old "innovation"
. When Apple introduced Spaces, UNIX/Linux-folks were saying "what took you so long?".
Having done some work experience in an ad agency, they actually said that copying is what goes on in ads. They crave customers like Guinness and Honda who invest £1 million into 1 ad to show creative talent etc and then everyoe else copies and it goes on like that so one agency just copied the other that probably ripped off a different ad.
panoz7 said:
Not just the same studio, but also the same director. Apparently he had that space station set built at great expense for the Postal Service video and still wanted to get some use out of it. If PS wanted to get miffed at someone, it should have been the director.
Evangelion said:
Which is how I feel about PS's albums. Such an overrated band IMO.
I just saw another 360 ad on TV, this time the covers made buildings... just like the iTunes ad.