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DgAl520319

macrumors regular
Apr 25, 2015
115
5
Texas
on the milanese loop?

Yes. That's what it looks like and feels like to me. Even if it's not rubber, I wouldn't want to boil it since I don't know how that black material would handle boiling.
 

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chabig

macrumors G4
Sep 6, 2002
11,434
9,299
anyone make any headway on this? is this a defect?

Try as I might, I see nothing in the picture that would concern me. I'm not even sure I see the discoloration you see. Ultimately it's up to you. If you want a different band, exchange it.
 

AdonisSMU

macrumors 604
Oct 23, 2010
7,320
3,078
Try as I might, I see nothing in the picture that would concern me. I'm not even sure I see the discoloration you see. Ultimately it's up to you. If you want a different band, exchange it.

I saw some slight discoloration in my band but I was able to wipe it off with a dry cloth and it was fine after that. *shrugs* Maybe the band is defective.
 

Gator Bob

macrumors regular
Aug 3, 2011
148
3
My stainless milanese went back today for refund. The Milanese band that was gorgeous a week ago, brand new, now has mottled greyish discoloration throughout the entire band. Never been wet or sweated. It looks really crappy.

My opinion: Version 1 of the watch is just not ready for prime time. I find it a fun, interesting toy, period. Apps are interesting but not very useful in my life.
I first tried the sport with black band and exchanged it for the far more attractive, comfortable stainless/sapphire with milanese band. Now the band is quickly turning into a mottled mess.
 

zlin9596

macrumors member
Oct 24, 2010
68
2
it really sucks to hear all these problems with the milanese band, i just returned my classic buckle for it, i hope it will last
 

DgAl520319

macrumors regular
Apr 25, 2015
115
5
Texas
it really sucks to hear all these problems with the milanese band, i just returned my classic buckle for it, i hope it will last

I've had mine for about a month now & am very pleased with it. The Milanese Loop is comfortable & attractive. The "discoloration issue" (if indeed it really IS in issue) is between the bands where they overlap, so it cannot be seen while you're wearing the watch. *Any* watch band is going to have some type of noticeable wear pattern. The Milanese loop is metal; the better you take care of it, the better it will be look. If you abuse it, the abuse will show.
 

landune

macrumors newbie
May 20, 2015
12
0
Can anyone else with the Milanese band confirm if it is discolouring? Or could it be a bad batch?
 

priscilla55

macrumors regular
Oct 2, 2013
138
10
Falkirk, Scotland
I've had mine since release day and it still looks as good as the day it arrived.

However, if it did get discoloured on the inside of the strap, where it was invisible while being worn, I wouldn't care. These watches don't exist outside the laws of physics and chemistry. Some things will have an effect on them, the same way that any other item you own is subject to wear and tear. It will be different for everyone because we all have different skin chemistry, use different products and do different activities. The fact that mine is still perfect probably has nothing to do with "good batches" or "bad batches" but more to do with my (rather idle) lifestyle.
 

chabig

macrumors G4
Sep 6, 2002
11,434
9,299
Had it for eight days...still looks new.

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Can anyone else with the Milanese band confirm if it is discolouring? Or could it be a bad batch?

I guarantee that if your intent is to find discoloration, you will find it.
 

gorkt

macrumors 6502a
Sep 15, 2007
718
597
I've had mine since the 24th. It developed that stain after running with it a few times. I rinsed it and now it looks fine.
 

Gator Bob

macrumors regular
Aug 3, 2011
148
3
Had it for eight days...still looks new.

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I guarantee that if your intent is to find discoloration, you will find it.

I do not post stupidities, only my observations. FWIW, I was a senior IBM communications executive and previously a newspaper editor and reporter.
 

priscilla55

macrumors regular
Oct 2, 2013
138
10
Falkirk, Scotland
I do not post stupidities, only my observations. FWIW, I was a senior IBM communications executive and previously a newspaper editor and reporter.

I'm not sure how your job is relevant unless you worked in the watch industry or as a metallurgist....or do you mean to indicate that your job title confers a higher standard of accurate reporting? Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton were Presidents of the US - perhaps the highest job title in the world. Didn't closely correlate with their relationship with "the facts".
 

DgAl520319

macrumors regular
Apr 25, 2015
115
5
Texas
I'm not sure how your job is relevant unless you worked in the watch industry or as a metallurgist....or do you mean to indicate that your job title confers a higher standard of accurate reporting? Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton were Presidents of the US - perhaps the highest job title in the world. Didn't closely correlate with their relationship with "the facts".

Well, I did work in the watch industry & I do make jewelry. The discoloration referenced in this thread is not a figment of anybody's imagination. Gator Bob has made a legitimate inquiry.

I was alerted to the issue by someone who received their watch before I received mine. Within two weeks, the discoloration on their Milanese loop appeared. Therefore, when I received my watch, I checked it out thoroughly, looking for discoloration from day one. It arrived in perfect condition.

I continued to check it daily and within a couple more weeks, the discoloration became noticeable. I removed the band from the watch and scrubbed it thoroughly with 409 (which cleans jewelry better than just about anything) and a soft bristle brush. I rinsed it in very warm water and allowed it to dry.

Cleaning it did not affect the discoloration in any way. It was still there just as it had been before.

An extremely close examination indicates that the discoloration is occurring from the band rubbing against itself and "roughing up" the original satin finish of the Milanese Loop. It's possible that the finish could be restored by using a soft metal brush and giving it a light brushing. However, I won't do this with mine because any light brushing like that will remove a small amount of metal which will in turn decrease the life of the band. Also— the discoloration doesn't show when the band is worn, so it's no big deal to me.

I also would not recommend using a polish cloth on Milanese Loop. Polishing will also remove the satin finish, and if it's not done professionslly, it'll be uneven and that would look really bad.

Still, the issue is worthy of discussion since this is a new product and we are all learning about it— and we should be able to do so with civility.

Now, if the band starts fraying— that's a problem. However, I have seen no indication that it might do this.

It's a beautiful watch and band.
 

jjlannoo

Suspended
Oct 8, 2011
570
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Well, I did work in the watch industry & I do make jewelry. The discoloration referenced in this thread is not a figment of anybody's imagination. Gator Bob has made a legitimate inquiry.

I was alerted to the issue by someone who received their watch before I received mine. Within two weeks, the discoloration on their Milanese loop appeared. Therefore, when I received my watch, I checked it out thoroughly, looking for discoloration from day one. It arrived in perfect condition.

I continued to check it daily and within a couple more weeks, the discoloration became noticeable. I removed the band from the watch and scrubbed it thoroughly with 409 (which cleans jewelry better than just about anything) and a soft bristle brush. I rinsed it in very warm water and allowed it to dry.

Cleaning it did not affect the discoloration in any way. It was still there just as it had been before.

An extremely close examination indicates that the discoloration is occurring from the band rubbing against itself and "roughing up" the original satin finish of the Milanese Loop. It's possible that the finish could be restored by using a soft metal brush and giving it a light brushing. However, I won't do this with mine because any light brushing like that will remove a small amount of metal which will in turn decrease the life of the band. Also— the discoloration doesn't show when the band is worn, so it's no big deal to me.

I also would not recommend using a polish cloth on Milanese Loop. Polishing will also remove the satin finish, and if it's not done professionslly, it'll be uneven and that would look really bad.

Still, the issue is worthy of discussion since this is a new product and we are all learning about it— and we should be able to do so with civility.

Now, if the band starts fraying— that's a problem. However, I have seen no indication that it might do this.

It's a beautiful watch and band.

macrumors bbs is hostile, Always has been. Seems to bring it out of people. Myself included. I don't find it like this on others I use.
 

DgAl520319

macrumors regular
Apr 25, 2015
115
5
Texas
macrumors bbs is hostile, Always has been. Seems to bring it out of people. Myself included. I don't find it like this on others I use.

That's sad. It doesn't have to be that way —if people would just cut each other a little slack & be kind. #
 

spittingllama

macrumors member
Apr 6, 2015
58
0
Mine has this also may take into apple tomorrow to see what they say. only on overlap but after 3 weeks little concerning!
 

Gator Bob

macrumors regular
Aug 3, 2011
148
3
I'm not sure how your job is relevant unless you worked in the watch industry or as a metallurgist....or do you mean to indicate that your job title confers a higher standard of accurate reporting?

You got it right even though you can't recognize it. Yes, that is exactly what my lifetime of work trained me to do: Reporting, Accuracy, fact checking, etc.
 
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