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What's AE suddenly doing in here ? And what shortcomings are you talking about... The one that prevents it from editing a feature length ?

:p

AE is kind of related to Premiere. :p
 
I agree about the nVidia BS. I was miffed at first, but found out it still works really well. Also, I found a used GTX285 Mac Edition for $300 shipped, due to arrive tomorrow. I'm hoping it makes it even better.

I also totally agree that there is a massive opportunity for Apple to thrill/win back huge numbers of editors with the next version of FCS. I've wanted to buy it myself now for about a year, but I've been holding out, hoping to be impressed. Nothing would make me happier than to see some kind of GPU acceleration that works with my 5870.

I just finished editing a feature-length (104 minutes, 1920x1080/24) movie on PrPro, so I'm not sure why anyone would think it can't handle it.
 
I can pick on Adobe as well. What really irked me was switching from Audition to Soundbooth. In CS and CS2, I was on PC/Windows machines, so I still had Audition, thankfully. Then with CS3, I switched to Mac... No Audition! Gaaaah, that sucked!

Now, I have the public beta of Audition for Mac. If you don't know, it's been rewrittten from scratch, 64-bit and all, and I mixed the soundtrack to the feature-length I edited on a multi-track (33 tracks!) session with a video track to sync with. It doesn't have all the features that the PC version has, yet, but I have to say that Adobe is trying.

The Audition beta is free, but I hear that when it's finished, it will be around $300. That's something else we might get a chance to complain about... Having to pay for what should be included in the CS5 suite. I could whine for hours about how annoying Soundbooth was.

Maybe Apple is working just as hard as Adobe is, but you have to admit that it doesn't appear that way.
 
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Well that's what so annoying with Apple, zero information on what they are workin on. It's not so great in a professional context, I hate working in the dark: is it really worth the time I'm investing in learning FCP if they drop it when they don't feel like developing it any more ?
 
Although I prefer OSX to win7 any day, if the OP is on a limited budget and already using CS5 for image and video rather than FCP, I'd recommend building a windows desktop somthing like the following setup:

- i7-2600k ($300-350)
- P67 mobo (~$150 - 300)
- 16-24GB DDR3 1600 MHz RAM ($100 - $250)
- GTX 580 or 570 ($300 - 500)
- Intel X25M 160GB SSD ($400) [optional depending on budget but highly recommended]
- WD Caviar Black 7200RPM 2TB ($150)
- power supply, fans, case, optical drives ($400 - $800)

I'm kind of in a similar situation, but I'm waiting to hear about the upcoming FCP update before deciding whether to go with a new Mac Pro or windows desktop
 
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Hey Matt. Could you clarify this a bit?
If you have 1 socket daughter card with 3.2 quad in it you'll need to get a dual socket board for 8-core "upgrade" right? And if you mean 8-core single chip you'll need a whole new motherboard.
How is the 6-core more limited as you'll have to get a dual socket card for it to upgrade as well? to say 3.46GHz 12-core.
Or did you mean limited as in there isn't much faster to replace it with:)

You are correct from 3.33 all you can upgrade to is 3.46

so if you want to get more cores a year from now or two you will be very limited to what you could do (yes you can go 8 or 12 but will cost you way more money)

having only 4 memory slots and single chip slot limits to only that
knowing that we will be starting to use more multithread programs in 2012 thats when those multi chip computers will really benefit
why spend extra 1300 dollars now on 3.33 why not safe the money if you thing you will never need more than 6 cores or 32 gig of ram and invest in better monitor or a max out your drives,
4 cores today will run all the programs as fast as 4, 6, 8 or 12 core system it may take you 1 minute longer in 1 hr to compress DVD but if you running one program who will really notice this, all the 4.1 and 5.1 computers will last you at least 3 years but with dual processor slots upgrades will always be cheaper
3.46 4 core system will always run faster than 3.33 6 core system any 32 bit programs and even some 64 bit programs
you can update any 4.1 or 5.1 4 core processors to to any of those chips, but 2 years from now any 8 core and 12 core system with a bit lower speed (MHz) will run faster than any 4 or 6 core system with top speed do to amount of corse available for 64 bit applications/programs

Some people will be ok to upgrade their computers every year or two but some want to keep them for more than 2 years,

there will always be talk who is faster or the best, but there always will be someone better
today 2.93 may be the fastest but tomorrow 2.66 may be faster because it has the double ram or running on SSD drives only

You can make your 3.1 8 core MP faster than stock 12 core 2.93 by just doing those things

so the question is what will make you happy and not what will be the fastest, if you already have a MP do you really, REALLY need to upgrade it. If you running on 4 year old iMac than look at 4.1 or 5.1 revision of MP but if you are using it only for internet browsing, word documents, iPhoto or iMovie than don't spend all your hard earn money as your iMac will do all your jobs with exactly the same speeds

just my $0.02
 
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Thanks for the clarification Matt. Let's hope we get some better multi core support in the coming years.
 
Thanks for the clarification Matt. Let's hope we get some better multi core support in the coming years.

I hope so
:)
we will se what apple will do with FC this year
that will be the sign on how we should look at upgrades
but for now we need to get apple to allow us for blue ray,
as I hate archiving 20+ gig of files on DVD's
 
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