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I hear you on "decision fatigue!" I'm still trying to make up my mind, too.....
Fortunately, I should be able to turn my brain off after this one. I used to be really bad about smartphones, but I’ve managed to beat that back and keep my 6s for 3 years. My camera hunt has come from making a guess with the a5000, then trying a traditional DSLR. I think I’ve figured out what I like now, and the DX85 seems like a good fit. I’m glad I made some size comparisons before purchase. I just assumed any m43 camera would be automagically smaller than a D5300, but not so! I guess lenses may still be smaller.
I wish you luck with your choice, and hope to see some stunners from it in the near future
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Hugh
Will do. I don’t Instagram or Facebook, so only MR and my immediate friends/family really get to see my work!
I strongly suggest thinking long term (meaning next 15-30 years). If you invest in the right system you can keep your lenses for a very long time.
I bought a mirrorless camera today. Got a sweet deal. Came with two lenses.
Anybody want to guess which make?
Anybody want to guess which make?
Well, since you're a Nikon Boy, my guess is that it's a Nikon 1 series with two lenses..... Happy shooting!!!
Lol. Well it gets delivered on the 21st if anyone needs a hint!
Xs or Xs Max? I got the Xs and looking forward to getting rid of this ginormous 8+. lol
Max for me. I've had the 6+ and 7+ so I'm used to the size.
I'm looking forward to hearing how you like the new iPhone Xs Max...... I really love the camera in the iPhone X -- one reason I am going to go for an improved version in the iPhone Xs. This thing definitely rivals and goes beyond many P&S cameras!
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Good luck to you. I will likely buy an Apple-refurbed 7 when my 6s breathes its last.
New camera came today. Lumix GX85 with a secondary 45-150 lens. I’m amazed at the size and lightness of the lenses, and the body itself feels very well made and solid. Shutter can be silenced entirely. The Menu system is pretty deep, so I’ve got some learning to do there, but the buttons and dials seem to do most of what I need. So far, I love the results. I’ve taken maybe 10 photos and already have a few keepers of the kids. I guess mirrored cameras are over my head? Will hit up POTD with my results.
Congratulations, Darmok, on your new camera and lenses!! Enjoy and much happy shooting!!!!
Enjoy your new camera. I'm looking forward to seeing the results.Good luck to you. I will likely buy an Apple-refurbed 7 when my 6s breathes its last.
New camera came today. Lumix GX85 with a secondary 45-150 lens. I’m amazed at the size and lightness of the lenses, and the body itself feels very well made and solid. Shutter can be silenced entirely. The Menu system is pretty deep, so I’ve got some learning to do there, but the buttons and dials seem to do most of what I need. So far, I love the results. I’ve taken maybe 10 photos and already have a few keepers of the kids. I guess mirrored cameras are over my head? Will hit up POTD with my results.
Well, I had my first outing with the GX85 this past weekend, and I was quite happy with the results! I figured I’d follow up on my purchase.
I took about 240 pictures, and I maybe trashed 1/4 of them for incorrect focus. That was impressive in itself, as I took a lot of shots of fast moving subjects, though I did have plenty of light for the most part. I was originally worried that battery life might be an issue, but this was a long day of off-and-on shooting, and I still had half the battery left. Shooting in RAW was helpful to recover any exposure issues, and because it was a full-sun day with occasional partial shade, I did have some sharp contrasts to work against. I ended up with a lot of good shots, even a few great ones. I did have one operational goof—I have the exposure lock set without needing to hold the button, so I ended up forgetting to untoggle it and had some higher than needed ISO shots until I figured out my mistake.
The first field visit was a success in my book. I would certainly recommend the GX85. It was light to carry and easy to use once I got the hang of it. I really like the smaller lenses on m43 too.
I took about 240 pictures, and I maybe trashed 1/4 of them for incorrect focus. That was impressive in itself, as I took a lot of shots of fast moving subjects, though I did have plenty of light for the most part. I was originally worried that battery life might be an issue, but this was a long day of off-and-on shooting, and I still had half the battery left. Shooting in RAW was helpful to recover any exposure issues, and because it was a full-sun day with occasional partial shade, I did have some sharp contrasts to work against. I ended up with a lot of good shots, even a few great ones. I did have one operational goof—I have the exposure lock set without needing to hold the button, so I ended up forgetting to untoggle it and had some higher than needed ISO shots until I figured out my mistake.
The first field visit was a success in my book. I would certainly recommend the GX85. It was light to carry and easy to use once I got the hang of it. I really like the smaller lenses on m43 too.
For me it was ergonomics. I ended up with a Fuji XT-2 because it's just like the film cameras of old. All the controls are in the right place and the camera capabilities far exceed mine. My base was an old Leica M6, so if you grew up in the digital age it might not feel so intuitive.
Is the 1st gen A7 still considered to be good?
I'm shooting, as a beginner, on a Sony a58 and i was thinking about going to a a7II (a7iii too expensive) but if the normal a7 is good enough i could consider it
The short answer is yes, it is.... but.... it doesnt have IBIS. Personally I think IBIS revolutionised the A7 series. So I would go for the A7ii if possible.
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The a77ii is getting dated, there is also the a68 which has most of the features of the a77ii but is somewhat less money.
For a long time it's been rumored that Sony has an a77iii in the works, but I'm wondering if it will ever make it to market. They seem to be putting all their resources into the E-mount line these days.
The a77ii is getting dated, there is also the a68 which has most of the features of the a77ii but is somewhat less money.
For a long time it's been rumored that Sony has an a77iii in the works, but I'm wondering if it will ever make it to market. They seem to be putting all their resources into the E-mount line these days.
I don't like starting new threads so I'll hijack this one to ask a question about lenses.
My camera for now is the Sony a7ii. My "good" lens is the 70-200 f4 but now I'm trying to decide on what my next lens should be. I'm looking to upgrade for the sub-70mm range. I have the 28-70 kit lens that came with it and a cheap 50mm prime but I want something a little more premium for the mostly indoor shooting I do these days. So, if you guys had to pick one lens for the sub-70mm range what would it be? 35mm prime? A quality 20something and up zoom lens?
My camera for now is the Sony a7ii. My "good" lens is the 70-200 f4 but now I'm trying to decide on what my next lens should be. I'm looking to upgrade for the sub-70mm range. I have the 28-70 kit lens that came with it and a cheap 50mm prime but I want something a little more premium for the mostly indoor shooting I do these days. So, if you guys had to pick one lens for the sub-70mm range what would it be? 35mm prime? A quality 20something and up zoom lens?
I'm thinking of jumping on one since they just became available at Best Buy. Supposedly the autofocus issues have been resolved.
Those were fixed by a firmware update. Everyone raves about that lens.
(EDIT NOTE) - Oops, this was an old thread from Sept 2017 suddenly resurfacing. Content is the same for others considering, and updates with newest model.
Went through the same thing as upgrading wife's point-n-shoot long zoom canon. The zoom was so long that many times she would lose or couldn't find the subject on the LCD, and had no viewfinder so the sun would wipe out the LCD further complicating things. Small and had a viewfinder were her two requirements. Sony, Panasonic and Olympus models were the short list, and of them, Sony was the smallest with the largest sensor. Daughter had/has a 5000 with the attached external viewfinder prior to the 6000 being introduced. Son has a mixture of Panasonic/Olympus body and lens and very impressed with the photos he takes. Wife preferred the feel in her hands of the Sony a6000 over the others, so that narrowed it down. Overall takes great pictures, and the fact that it is still sold despite now 3 replacement models speaks for itself. Price hasn't really gone down that much, just appears so as it is the 'low price leader.' I think I paid $1000 for the 2 lens kit (16-50 and 55-210) while that same 2 lens kit is around $850 today, but they usually advertise the camera and 16-50 for around $600. Overall, she has been very happy with it and I have had to show her some of the more advanced features - like manual focus to avoid foreground focus in wildlife shots. Not as intuitive as my a7rII but was able to program one of the buttons to simplify manual focus. Battery life is much better than on the a7rII and they use the same battery.
Doesn't sound like you need a full frame...and yes, lens are significantly more expensive - plus the kit 28-70 was/is cheap, rubberized that I saw several not holding up to store traffic on display. I actually started mu Nikon transition with a borrowed A7, and there is a significant difference with the improvements in the A7II series. If I had to replace my wife's A6000 today would seriously look at the A6400 which was introduced last week. Scratching my head as marketing put it as the A5000 replacement...but frankly it is a A6000 body with viewfinder, not a A5000 form factor. Slotted between the A6300 and A6500, it's superb features doesn't justify the slight premium for the A6500. Prior to it's introduction I was looking at the A6300 with it's stronger video over the A6000 as wife's camera becomes a second shooter for me. Crop sensor is also great for wildlife with the longer effective lens than the same lens on a full frame.
While you are not in a hurry, would suggest playing with them in the various stores. Also might want to rent one for a weekend, etc. See which one you feel most comfortable with.
Went through the same thing as upgrading wife's point-n-shoot long zoom canon. The zoom was so long that many times she would lose or couldn't find the subject on the LCD, and had no viewfinder so the sun would wipe out the LCD further complicating things. Small and had a viewfinder were her two requirements. Sony, Panasonic and Olympus models were the short list, and of them, Sony was the smallest with the largest sensor. Daughter had/has a 5000 with the attached external viewfinder prior to the 6000 being introduced. Son has a mixture of Panasonic/Olympus body and lens and very impressed with the photos he takes. Wife preferred the feel in her hands of the Sony a6000 over the others, so that narrowed it down. Overall takes great pictures, and the fact that it is still sold despite now 3 replacement models speaks for itself. Price hasn't really gone down that much, just appears so as it is the 'low price leader.' I think I paid $1000 for the 2 lens kit (16-50 and 55-210) while that same 2 lens kit is around $850 today, but they usually advertise the camera and 16-50 for around $600. Overall, she has been very happy with it and I have had to show her some of the more advanced features - like manual focus to avoid foreground focus in wildlife shots. Not as intuitive as my a7rII but was able to program one of the buttons to simplify manual focus. Battery life is much better than on the a7rII and they use the same battery.
Doesn't sound like you need a full frame...and yes, lens are significantly more expensive - plus the kit 28-70 was/is cheap, rubberized that I saw several not holding up to store traffic on display. I actually started mu Nikon transition with a borrowed A7, and there is a significant difference with the improvements in the A7II series. If I had to replace my wife's A6000 today would seriously look at the A6400 which was introduced last week. Scratching my head as marketing put it as the A5000 replacement...but frankly it is a A6000 body with viewfinder, not a A5000 form factor. Slotted between the A6300 and A6500, it's superb features doesn't justify the slight premium for the A6500. Prior to it's introduction I was looking at the A6300 with it's stronger video over the A6000 as wife's camera becomes a second shooter for me. Crop sensor is also great for wildlife with the longer effective lens than the same lens on a full frame.
While you are not in a hurry, would suggest playing with them in the various stores. Also might want to rent one for a weekend, etc. See which one you feel most comfortable with.
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