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I'm sorry - don't get me wrong, but there are some people out here, including me, use MobileMe on a day-to-day basis and couldn't live without it. Calling it a joke may be even offensive to some.
 
The web app is such a buggy, antiquated joke that I think I'd rather use Outlook Express 2 to get my mail.

And I really love getting an email from one of my other email addresses that's been forwarded to me.com and then have to go crank up outlook just so I can respond from the appropriate email address. Really state of the art stuff, Apple, way to go.

Don't buy it? And if you did buy it - you should have looked into it more first. I don't sympathize with you at all here.

I'm still on trial for MobileMe (until november or something) and I probably won't start to pay for it. The only feature I like is how my iCal and contacts get synced across all my systems, but otherwise I don't need the features it offers.
 
If there was another way to sync my contacts/calendar then I would, as far as I know MobileMe is the only way
If you only need push contacts/calendar, and do not need push email, you might want to look into the beta nuevasync service (note: I haven't really tried this):
Issues:
  • Only syncs google calendar, and either google contacts or plaxo contacts.
  • Supposedly only syncs writable google calendars. Cannot sync other read-only (e.g., public) calendars.
  • Does not sync/push google mail, although it is supposedly coming.
  • There used to be an excellent service status blog, which gave useful and detailed information on the current status. Unfortunately, they've deleted most of the status posts, for whatever reason.
Note: switching to nuevasync (or probably any other exchange/push service, for that matter) will delete all contacts and calendars from the iPhone. Save/transfer/backup everything that you want to keep, before switching contacts/calendars.
 
apple disgrace!

More than a joke, why does apple support and offer services on mobileme for outlook pc users and not apple mac (their own users/consumers)- they do not offer entourage 2008 sync on mobileme but outlook 2008 for pc.

That is a disgrace apple!!
 
More than a joke, why does apple support and offer services on mobileme for outlook pc users and not apple mac (their own users/consumers)- they do not offer entourage 2008 sync on mobileme but outlook 2008 for pc.

That is a disgrace apple!!

Since this is your first post, it isn't looking too good for you. Given your name as well, everyone may take you for a troll. Not calling you one though, just saying.

Either way, Entourage isn't an amazing application for the Mac. And it's not Apple's job to make their services work on 3rd party applications that compete with their own apps. No one is complaining that Motion 2 Projects don't import directly into Avid Media Composer Projects. It reminds me of the people that complain about Apple's One-to-One trainers not being certified in Microsoft Office or other 3rd party apps.
 
More than a joke, why does apple support and offer services on mobileme for outlook pc users and not apple mac (their own users/consumers)- they do not offer entourage 2008 sync on mobileme but outlook 2008 for pc.
Umm...use Mail, iCal and AddressBook?
 
If you only need push contacts/calendar, and do not need push email, you might want to look into the beta nuevasync service (note: I haven't really tried this):
Issues:
  • Only syncs google calendar, and either google contacts or plaxo contacts.
  • Supposedly only syncs writable google calendars. Cannot sync other read-only (e.g., public) calendars.
  • Does not sync/push google mail, although it is supposedly coming.
  • There used to be an excellent service status blog, which gave useful and detailed information on the current status. Unfortunately, they've deleted most of the status posts, for whatever reason.
Note: switching to nuevasync (or probably any other exchange/push service, for that matter) will delete all contacts and calendars from the iPhone. Save/transfer/backup everything that you want to keep, before switching contacts/calendars.

Cheers for the info, very interesting

I have my own email address now which syncs every 15 mins (this is fine for my personnel use, I have no need to get emails immediately)
The only calendars I am interested in syncing is my personal ones, not bothered about the shared ones

I have just over 3 months to find something else until my subscription runs out

I will stick with using MM for another couple of months to see how things go (always willing to give things a fair chance), but so far for me this is a backward step from .mac

Cheers again for the useful link
 
I have my own email address now which syncs every 15 mins (this is fine for my personnel use, I have no need to get emails immediately)
I know you're not interested in this, but for the other people here:

It actually makes sense to use another, more full-featured email service (such as gmail) with push email. See my previous post on this:
Although this post talks about using MobileMe, you don't have to use MM. However, the ability to sync between a laptop/desktop, and the fact that syncing means that you can backup your contacts/calendar, can make MM attractive.
 
Gmail and Yahoo's email functions have been released slowly over a period of YEARS, yet you want Apple to have all of it included at the initial release? I would guess that the webmail is far down the list in terms of importance for Apple and most users, and rightly so. Sure, it's nice to have, but MobileMe is so much more than a Gmail clone. I would like to see a little more advanced functionality, as well, but the mail works as advertised, even if you're only using it with a PC and an iPhone.

I don't know what you would call "constant" but I haven't had an email outage since shortly after the release. Push has worked for me, too. And even though I didn't have any of the big problems others had, Apple still felt compelled to give me three free months of service.

Still, if you hate the service so much, don't use it. Call Apple and ask for a refund. Use Gmail or Yahoo instead, since that service is so obviously superior.

That is a terrible way of thinking. Do you think when a new car company starts its business it will go through the same procedures like Ford did? Starting the engine with magneto, just offering black cars ? Apple has to offer email service at least as good as others.

We can do many things for free what Mobileme offers us . But we need to search the information, install softwares , spend time to work out why it is not fucntining etc. MobileMe offers the service for 100 dolars but also taking the hassle. Which is less than 10 dolars per month. Not very bad in my opinion.

I dont think mobileme is a bad platform but it isn't functioning as it is suppose to right now. It is slow

AND yes google gives you the ability to upload pictures directly from iPhoto.
Check google's mac section.
 
That is a terrible way of thinking. Do you think when a new car company starts its business it will go through the same procedures like Ford did? Starting the engine with magneto, just offering black cars ?

Your argument would make lots more sense if the two were equatable at all. A better analogy would be to complain that Lockheed doesn't make airplanes that have heated leather seats and built-in Sirius. Mercedes has that in their cars, why can't Lockheed get with the program?

Apple has to offer email service at least as good as others.

No, they don't have to do anything of the sort. But, in fact, they have, you just have to use Mail to get that advanced functionality. Webmail is a bonus feature, really, and one that is not ever necessary to have in order to use all of MobileMe's features.
 

STOP MAKING SENSE!

IT HURTS!
:D

Seriously though, anyone that truly can't see the amount of effort Apple put into making the update to the semi-rip-off of a service .Mac is just not trying to understand.

The webapp has given me nothing but joy to use. Some minor quirks but good things all around. iDisk is amazing, and left out by those trying to find other services (nothing compares, been looking myself).

And not say that other people have problems, or that you can't get a good deal of the same thing with three or four other free services, but bashing it with loose complaints is a bit overkill for a minor gripe.
 
No, they don't have to do anything of the sort. But, in fact, they have, you just have to use Mail to get that advanced functionality. Webmail is a bonus feature, really, and one that is not ever necessary to have in order to use all of MobileMe's features.
There appear to be two main classes of MM users:
  • People who use much, if not all, of the MM features. This includes iDisk, iPhoto, etc..
  • People who use MM mainly for the iPhone-related features. This largely includes push email, contacts, and calendar. It often does not include iDisk, iPhoto, etc.
Your arguments are correct for the former, but not for the latter. For the latter, email features are very important, and, for those users, Apple is competing with all of the other free/non-free email services. If google ever comes out with push email, I think that will take a big bite out of the MM subscriber base (the only thing that will cushion this for Apple is the fact that people have to prepay for an entire year).

And, just as a side note, using a desktop application like Mail to provide advanced functionality is not a very good idea. This is because it requires a Mac or PC to be turned on 24x7, and some of us:
  • Don't want to needlessly waste electricity.
  • Live in an area with expensive electricity, and don't want to needlessly increase their electric bill.
  • Would rather be more environmentally-friendly (I probably waste lots of electricity, and would rather not increase this).
 
How does a web app save electricity? Why does a desktop app need to be turned on 24/7 to work? Either way, the computer needs to be on to work.
 
How does a web app save electricity? Why does a desktop app need to be turned on 24/7 to work? Either way, the computer needs to be on to work.
Because, to get MobileMe to emulate the "advanced feature" of server-side mail filtering, you'd have to leave Mail or whatever running 24x7. Right now, MM doesn't have server-side mail filtering, and the only way to get it, is to fake it by leaving Mail running 24x7, and letting the mail filters do stuff.

With google and yahoo mail, their mail servers, which run 24x7, take care of the filtering for you. With MobileMe, you have to fake it using your Mac or PC, and that is what uses the extra electricity.

(Server-side filtering is waaay nice: with it, I can just push only the urgent/important email to the iPhone. This way, my iPhone isn't constantly making noise due to all of the less-important email, which doesn't get pushed.)
 
(Server-side filtering is waaay nice: with it, I can just push only the urgent/important email to the iPhone. This way, my iPhone isn't constantly making noise due to all of the less-important email, which doesn't get pushed.)

I get you, but is this what this thread has gotten to?

Not that filtering isn't a plus, but it's quite a small feature in and of itself when compared to everything else that you get.

And non Mac users can still put their photo galleries to use on their iPhone, and their iDisk to use on their PC.

It seems that people are ignoring the actually useful features of MM in place of the niche ones.

Even if Gmail or Yahoo had push directly to an iPhone or other cell they'd be lacking in a host of others that they would never have unless they built their own OS or partnered with Linux developers.
 
It seems that people are ignoring the actually useful features of MM in place of the niche ones.
Well, no argument there. :D

However, I've got to say that I'm one of the people who use MM because of the iPhone. I don't use iPhoto, because I'm happy with Picasa, and I don't use iDisk because it's not really secure (I'm cursed with Windows XP, which has no reliable way of accessing iDisk securely). I'm only using MM for the push services and the multi-PC sync services.
 
Well, no argument there. :D

{snip}... I don't use iDisk because it's not really secure (I'm cursed with Windows XP, which has no reliable way of accessing iDisk securely). I'm only using MM for the push services and the multi-PC sync services.

What do you mean? You can use "my network places" to create a connection to https://idisk.me.com/your-me-account-name in XP. That's using SSL which is secure enough in my book.
 
I'm sorry - don't get me wrong, but there are some people out here, including me, use MobileMe on a day-to-day basis and couldn't live without it. Calling it a joke may be even offensive to some.

If any of this is offensive to anyone then they need to lighten up.
 
To make that work, you need additional software, like Microsoft Office. I'd love to use SSL, but it doesn't work for me (and, yes, I've tried).

Accessing iDisk via a PC connection is horrible. Then again, accessing anything from a PC connection is horrible as well. Once connected, never break it since you may never get it again.

Accessing iDisk via the webapp is the next best thing to owning a Mac IMHO.
 
To make that work, you need additional software, like Microsoft Office. I'd love to use SSL, but it doesn't work for me (and, yes, I've tried).

Oh...I didn't realize that. SSL WebDAV is built in to Mac OS, Gnome Desktop, and KDE Desktop. Who would have thought that MS would be lacking some basic Internet standards. :D
 
Accessing iDisk via the webapp is the next best thing to owning a Mac IMHO.
The web interface doesn't use SSL. :(

(OK, there's a mac.com SSL web interface to your iDisk Public directory, but it's buggy. Uploading requires a dialog box, which may or may not be using SSL (I haven't checked), and uploading gives you an error saying that you can't upload now, but the upload appears to take place. I haven't verified that the uploaded file is correct, though.)
 
This thread is useless...

As WE ALL KNOW, Apple has admitted that mistakes were made and promised to make it ALL WORK AND BE SOMETHING THEY CAN BE PROUD OF by the end of the year... With 90 days free service.

If you don't like the service, don't use it -OR- WAIT TILL 1/1/09 and try it...
If you do like the service use it till 1/1/09 FOR FREE...

If they don't fix the bugs by 1/1/09 - go else where...

Sheeeesh
 
STOP MAKING SENSE!

IT HURTS!
:D

Seriously though, anyone that truly can't see the amount of effort Apple put into making the update to the semi-rip-off of a service .Mac is just not trying to understand.

The webapp has given me nothing but joy to use. Some minor quirks but good things all around. iDisk is amazing, and left out by those trying to find other services (nothing compares, been looking myself).

You have your opinions, others have theirs on the service, you felt .mac was a rip off others feel that MM is a rip off

Now I am only speaking personally here, not about general opinions

iDisk, had this with.Mac, got it now with MM, still painfully slow, getting double the space is irrelevent so not sure what effort apple put into this side of the system, it looks identical to before
Mail, cannot access now except for at home, now pointless
Contacts, As mail
Calendar, very nice addition but see mail
Syncing of devices, almost very good, minor issues which I am sure will get resolved

If you feel that you can say how great you think the service is and what wonderful work apple have done, then by contrast anyone else has the right to say how poor it is, i agree with your comments if people just come on and say its poor with no reason.
 
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