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kwha

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Aug 2, 2008
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The iPhone desperately needs a decent multi im protocol app (and not palingro). I don't care if it's these guys or someone else who does it!! Please anyone.
 

ryanwarsaw

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Apr 7, 2007
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The iPhone desperately needs a decent multi im protocol app (and not palingro). I don't care if it's these guys or someone else who does it!! Please anyone.

+1 What is taking so long?
 

AHDuke99

macrumors 68020
Nov 14, 2002
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The developers are claiming a mass conspiracy against them it looks like. They are blaming Apple for just about everything and said they submitted it 10 days ago for approval. I really don't know. We need an app like this so bad and it looks like this one might never make it out.
 

AHDuke99

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Nov 14, 2002
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Charleston, SC
There has to be a conspiracy.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2737038284_74e60fe2ac_o.png

something like that makes it to the app store, but mobile chat doesnt?

How do we know they even submitted the damn thing? I'm sorry, but I hardly trust this group running the show. Apple approved all these other IM apps, and there's no reason why they wouldn't approve MobileChat. Get real. There isn't some conspiracy. I wouldn't be shocked if they didnt submit it when they said they did. They've had trouble in every step of the process.
 

nozebleed

macrumors 6502
Jul 30, 2008
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

Ill def be buying this for my 2.0 iphone, but what about my jb 1.1.4 ipod??? I just jailbroke it back because i was disgusted with the aim app, now reading the blog it says its been pulled from all the installer repo's??? That wicked sucks. I backed up all my old apps practically except this one. Can someone be so kind as to pm me somewhere to find the old Mobilechat?? Apollo is so inferior, i dont want to have to "settle". . . . .
 

i-John

macrumors 6502a
Jul 14, 2008
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How do we know they even submitted the damn thing? I'm sorry, but I hardly trust this group running the show. Apple approved all these other IM apps, and there's no reason why they wouldn't approve MobileChat. Get real. There isn't some conspiracy. I wouldn't be shocked if they didnt submit it when they said they did. They've had trouble in every step of the process.
That just shows that anything will be approved. I question the submission, as I saw other people say they sent apps that were approved and posted with a few days. I doubt it would take near 2 weeks unless something was up.
 

ViViDboarder

macrumors 68040
Jun 25, 2008
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I think the problem is a complication regarding the GPL and NDA.

If you've ever seen why Adium or Pidgin are not coming to iPhone, it is because the libraries (I think libpurple is an example) are licenced under the GPL. The version it's under requires that if an application uses it the entire sourcecode must be released. The issue comes in when Apple's NDA does not allow them to release the entire source code because it's a product of the SDK and the Developer Program.

Just my guess.
 

stevin

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Jan 29, 2008
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I think the problem is a complication regarding the GPL and NDA.

If you've ever seen why Adium or Pidgin are not coming to iPhone, it is because the libraries (I think libpurple is an example) are licenced under the GPL. The version it's under requires that if an application uses it the entire sourcecode must be released. The issue comes in when Apple's NDA does not allow them to release the entire source code because it's a product of the SDK and the Developer Program.

Just my guess.

sounds like the only reasonable explanation to me...

I've monitored the thread and kept pretty quiet, but like some others here I'm beginning to be frustrated waiting for this sill app to be released on the store. (not to the point that I wouldn't buy a copy when it didn't come out) But its kind of ridiculous.
 

ViViDboarder

macrumors 68040
Jun 25, 2008
3,447
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sounds like the only reasonable explanation to me...

I've monitored the thread and kept pretty quiet, but like some others here I'm beginning to be frustrated waiting for this sill app to be released on the store. (not to the point that I wouldn't buy a copy when it didn't come out) But its kind of ridiculous.

I think their other problem is that they can't charge for it if it uses GPL (I'm just assuming they are using it.) They were in their old version and they said "They lost the source code so they had to take it down because GPL required the app to have source posted." This sounded a little suspect because if it was intended that they release the source code, they would be allowing others to compile it for free. They charged for the old Native App version too.

So that could be another issue. They want money and GPL has a problem with that.
 

jaseone

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Nov 7, 2004
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I've read on Twenty08's blog that one of the tasks they worked on was completely removing any reliance on libpurple so I really don't think that is the issue.

There is no issue with charging for applications that include GPL'd code as long as the source of the application is available.

This whole issue is such a storm in a tea cup...
 

ViViDboarder

macrumors 68040
Jun 25, 2008
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USA
I've read on Twenty08's blog that one of the tasks they worked on was completely removing any reliance on libpurple so I really don't think that is the issue.

There is no issue with charging for applications that include GPL'd code as long as the source of the application is available.

This whole issue is such a storm in a tea cup...

That's interesting. If that's the case then maybe they are still working making it fully independent.

About being able to charge for GPL code, I meant that I didn't think people would pay for something that had sources released that they could compile themselves.
 

jaseone

macrumors 65816
Nov 7, 2004
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Houston, USA
That's interesting. If that's the case then maybe they are still working making it fully independent.

About being able to charge for GPL code, I meant that I didn't think people would pay for something that had sources released that they could compile themselves.

See their blog at tumble.twenty08.com they posted a screenshot of the submission of the app to apple just to placate people and there are several people beta testing the app using the adhoc distribution method, including several that were vocal in their complaints.

Just because you get the source code to an application doesn't mean you will be able to easily compile it and anyway to get it onto your iPhone you would have to be a registered developer and paid your $99.

Apple's review process is just mysterious and nobody knows how it works and why some apps get through quickly and others take forever.
 

ViViDboarder

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Jun 25, 2008
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See their blog at tumble.twenty08.com they posted a screenshot of the submission of the app to apple just to placate people and there are several people beta testing the app using the adhoc distribution method, including several that were vocal in their complaints.

Just because you get the source code to an application doesn't mean you will be able to easily compile it and anyway to get it onto your iPhone you would have to be a registered developer and paid your $99.

Apple's review process is just mysterious and nobody knows how it works and why some apps get through quickly and others take forever.

I meant the source to the old Jailbroken version. You could then compile it fairly easy with any knowledge of compilers and Darwin.
 

queshy

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Apr 2, 2005
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anyone think the app will be here by the end of the week? I'm still skeptic...
 

trunksu

macrumors 6502
Feb 21, 2008
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Is MobileChat really that much better than palringo?

i use palringo and i do like palringo. i don't know why some people hate it with a passion. if it works, then it gets a thumbs up in my book.

with that said i do plan to switch to mobilechat when it does come out (if it ever does). just go watch the video of what mobilechat can/will do on their site, you'll probably consider switching too. granted though it will prob cost money vs free.
 

thirdeyeopen666

macrumors 6502
Sep 16, 2007
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Why oh why hasn't Agile Messenger made it to the App Store? That was infinitely better than even MobileChat.
 

bubbagumpshrimp

macrumors 6502
Jun 16, 2008
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Okay, so from what the video says on their website it looks like we will be charged sms when using their PUSH service. If this be correct, and I assume it is, what makes this app so special? In fact, what makes any of these IM apps special when I cant even receive a message unless im logged into the app?

Someone please correct me.
 

siurpeeman

macrumors 603
Dec 2, 2006
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the OC
the sms/email push notification is a stop gap until apple's push notification service kicks in later next month.
 

scott99

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Oct 30, 2007
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I really think the reason for the holdup on this app, is money. That's the bottom line. If Apple thinks it can make a penny on a multi-messenging app, they will squeeze every penny out of this one. Maybe they think they will lose money somehow, if this app is released. It' s all about money.
 

iLeoMarc

macrumors regular
Jul 22, 2007
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I really think the reason for the holdup on this app, is money. That's the bottom line. If Apple thinks it can make a penny on a multi-messenging app, they will squeeze every penny out of this one. Maybe they think they will lose money somehow, if this app is released. It' s all about money.

With your thinking though, Apple can make more money in releasing MC. Why? Because they get the 30% from sales of MC. And if they release say iChat iPhone Edition then they can get 100% revenue. I would assume that since they have access to the entire iPhone and not limited to developing rules that they can easily make a nicer messenger app; thus making more people switch. If it was all about the money Apple would let people buy this, only to upgrade and pay again for something "better" in the not so distant future.
 
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