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1rottenapple

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Ebay is indeed awash with scammers, but as a buyer you'll always get your money back providing you use a merchant like PayPal to pay for your purchases. Their insurance covers you. If you (someone) use a method which allows a fraudulent buyer to just reverse the transaction, you've only yourself to blame IMO.

But as a seller I'm not sure there's any 100% foolproof method of completely preventing scammers, no matter what you do, nor which service you use to sell your items (eBay, Swappa, CraigsList, etc). The most you can do is take the financial hit of advertising stuff as collection only, then insist on demo'ing it before the buyer takes it.

A few years ago, a guy on a hifi forum sold a £500 CD player on eBay to a buyer who subsequently claimed it was non-functional upon receipt, so the buyer returned it and pursued a refund action through eBay. The seller was 100% convinced the machine he received back from the buyer contained the non-functioning electronics of a different identical machine inside the outer case of the player he'd sold. I've no idea if he finally resolved that dispute to his satisfaction, I suspect not because how do you prove it? Potentially that experience cost him £500, plus listing fees, and all he had to show for it was a broken CD player.
Oh for sure I buy lots of electronics on eBay and Swappa but I’d never sell on those platforms as I got scammed and lost thousands years ago buy a scammer who claimed they ship my defective perfectly working when I sent it MacBook. I got an empty box instead.
 

escargot3

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Oct 22, 2013
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Nah, selling it in person to a stranger in the first place immediately receives this award.
I have sold more than a dozen devices (mostly iPhones iPads and laptops) to “strangers” via Craigslist and never had an issue or a negative experience. Not saying it can’t happen but it’s not as common as maybe you expect.

Or just sell the thing online through a reputable service and avoid this entirely....
TBH, I think selling through eBay is more risky. A) so much can go wrong with shipping, especially with delicate electronics and b) eBay is extremely buyer focused. It is quite easy for a seller to be screwed over by an unscrupulous buyer. EBay basically always takes the buyers side, and the seller is at the mercy of the buyer being honest. Countless sellers have been screwed over this way. For buying, I agree that eBay is a relatively safe bet. But def not for selling.
 

PauloSera

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I have sold more than a dozen devices (mostly iPhones iPads and laptops) to “strangers” via Craigslist and never had an issue or a negative experience. Not saying it can’t happen but it’s not as common as maybe you expect.


TBH, I think selling through eBay is more risky. A) so much can go wrong with shipping, especially with delicate electronics and b) eBay is extremely buyer focused. It is quite easy for a seller to be screwed over by an unscrupulous buyer. EBay basically always takes the buyers side, and the seller is at the mercy of the buyer being honest. Countless sellers have been screwed over this way. For buying, I agree that eBay is a relatively safe bet. But def not for selling.
Everything you said is total nonsense. Selling to random strangers in person is dangerous 100% of the time and should be avoided entirely. Selling on eBay is perfectly fine as long as you aren't deliberately deceiving the buyers.
 

1rottenapple

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Apr 21, 2004
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I have sold more than a dozen devices (mostly iPhones iPads and laptops) to “strangers” via Craigslist and never had an issue or a negative experience. Not saying it can’t happen but it’s not as common as maybe you expect.


TBH, I think selling through eBay is more risky. A) so much can go wrong with shipping, especially with delicate electronics and b) eBay is extremely buyer focused. It is quite easy for a seller to be screwed over by an unscrupulous buyer. EBay basically always takes the buyers side, and the seller is at the mercy of the buyer being honest. Countless sellers have been screwed over this way. For buying, I agree that eBay is a relatively safe bet. But def not for selling.
totally agree on eBay being buyer focused. And same with PayPal. They protect buyers not the sellers and easy for sellers to be ripped off buy buyers taking advantage and doing reverse charges.
 

1rottenapple

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Apr 21, 2004
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Everything you said is total nonsense. Selling to random strangers in person is dangerous 100% of the time and should be avoided entirely. Selling on eBay is perfectly fine as long as you aren't deliberately deceiving the buyers.
Well try selling an iPhone and see how many scammers contact you. I got ripped off 1600 for a MacBook Pro years ago. Dude was in Texas and shipped there. No red flags American name and address and everything. Guy took my money and claimed there was an issue and sent me an empty box with tracking number. Since it registers in eBay that the item was returned with tracking there was nothing I could do. Tried to get police involved and nothing. No help from PayPal, eBay. I was SOL. I never would sell high priced items anymore on eBay. Anything more than 100 is too much. Im fine buying there though since again there is protection for buyers. .
 
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