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The what?:confused:

Hmmm must have missed the massive impact that one made.

You must be living in a parallel universe.

If I think back to 06 just about everyone was using a dumbphone and the latest fad was texting. The iPhone is what got dumbphone people go from texting to full on data usage. And the 3G with its lower price is what really made the market skyrocket.

As for the iPod. All I remember is before it everyone was still using a walkman.

I never said the blackjack made an impact. I just said it was an example of a fairly popular smart phone out there. RIM had a few that were starting to be come popular in the consumer world in 2006 and before. Nokia had a few

As for some other phones that were helping the smart phone market gaining traction in the smart phone market is RIM has two phones out that did a lot (Curve 83xx and Perl 81xx). The Perl suretype people love. The blackberry was really starting to make inroads to the consumer market before then.

the iPod was not the first MP3 player on the market and even back shortly before the iPod came out that market was gaining traction. MP3 were becoming big and downloading music was taking off. People wanted some way to take their music with them. It was CD players before Mp3 players. Around time of the iPod I remember seeing different types of mp3 players coming out and they were becoming more popular. Apple timed the wave really damn well. It was a well design player and it set the bar every thing else is measured to.
 
I disagree that the iPhone is what made smart phone popular. Now it did change a lot of things for the market and push the touch screen but the iPhone did not make the smart phone popular. Just like the iPod I feel did not make the mp3 player popular.

I doubt that.
If the iphone didnt make smartphones popular what did? The Blackberys? Not.
And the ipod didnt make the portable mp3 player popular what did?
 
Not true.

October 2009 I bought a BB Curve because I was kind of bored with my iPhone. I used for two whole months and cancelled the service and went right back to my iPhone.

I did give the BB for free to a friend however so this is now true for her.
 
BB are making huge sales at collage/universities now, in my experiance people are just looking at the iphone and choosing against it mainly because it has just got too common and restrictive now
 
I doubt that.
If the iphone didnt make smartphones popular what did? The Blackberys? Not.
And the ipod didnt make the portable mp3 player popular what did?

What made smartphone popular were the changing times. If you look back in time you see how it grew.

This is a link to 10 years of Blackberry history but in there it shows how smart phone grew. Each step in the market looks very logical. Things were taking off before than iPhone came out. Just the iPhone came out about the time they really were going to take off. iPhone did not make them popular. As it has been pointed out before if the iPhone did it would be number 1 in the smart phone market. It is no were close to that. It is 3rd world wide and in the US it is getting getting creamed by the blackberry. No way around that argument.

Come on if the iPhone is what made smart phone so popular then why is it sitting in 3rd world wide and a very distance 2nd place in the US?

As for the portable mp3 player popular I say it was the mp3. lets look back at that time. Napster had really taken off. Downloading mp3s was getting huge. I remember using napter and I was lucky to see 500 people online. In a matter of months that 500 grew to over 10k per server. That should tell you something.
Also back then people started ripping their cds and people wanted ways to take it with them so mp3 players were growing in popular . the iPod was not the first mp3 player or even the first hard-drive based mp3 player. I also believe when the iPod first came out it did struggled as well as the market had not taken off then it just explode and all the player had huge growth.
 
I bought a BlackBerry 9700.....

The Curve/Pearl are very popular amoung high school age kids and whatever. They use it as one of those 'texting' phones, not nessecarily to surf the internet or whatever.
 
What made smartphone popular were the changing times. If you look back in time you see how it grew.

This is a link to 10 years of Blackberry history but in there it shows how smart phone grew. Each step in the market looks very logical. Things were taking off before than iPhone came out. Just the iPhone came out about the time they really were going to take off. iPhone did not make them popular. As it has been pointed out before if the iPhone did it would be number 1 in the smart phone market. It is no were close to that. It is 3rd world wide and in the US it is getting getting creamed by the blackberry. No way around that argument.

Come on if the iPhone is what made smart phone so popular then why is it sitting in 3rd world wide and a very distance 2nd place in the US?

As for the portable mp3 player popular I say it was the mp3. lets look back at that time. Napster had really taken off. Downloading mp3s was getting huge. I remember using napter and I was lucky to see 500 people online. In a matter of months that 500 grew to over 10k per server. That should tell you something.
Also back then people started ripping their cds and people wanted ways to take it with them so mp3 players were growing in popular . the iPod was not the first mp3 player or even the first hard-drive based mp3 player. I also believe when the iPod first came out it did struggled as well as the market had not taken off then it just explode and all the player had huge growth.

Thats your theory but I disagree.
The iphone OS, web browser, itunes integration, ease of use, touch screen and many other features is what pushed the smartphone business to what it is today.
I remember seeing or hearing about some smartphones but they were so clunky, big, hard to use, with many os issues, tons of menus within submenus that people couldnt and actually wouldnt want to use unless they needed to because of their jobs. You had to be programmer to figure out every single feature on them and they looked so old and outdated, worst than windows 3.1 :D
But since the iphone release the smartphone market took off like crazy. Now it seems like every phone out there has a touchscreen or pushing for an appstore similar to Apples and with itunes integration wether thats thru 3rd party programs or thru hacks like the Pre did :D
Now people that never used a smartphone before can pick up an iphone and figure it out without having to read an 80 page manual and actually enjoy using it instead.
Also same thing about the ipod. Offcourse there was other mp3 players before it but nothing close to the success it had. People were using 10 and 12 disk cd changers in their cars and also MP3 cd players that would play a data cd loaded with mp3's.
Those 2 products changed the game and then everyone else followed or tryed to follow their success.
 
I was given a few BlackBerries, that's why I use them.

In two weeks I'll be getting either a Droid or Nexus One for free (GDC), and will switch to that.

When the next iPhone comes out I'll probably get one for the wife and if I like it maybe one for me too.
 
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If you want to see some proof of the smart phone market taking off just look at some popular phones before the iPhone and you will see quite a few of them were smart phones. One example is the samsung blackJack was a very poplar phone. The blackjack was released well over a year before the iPhone first came out. This is just one example of a smart phones starting to take off before the iPhone came out.

My first smartphone was a Samsung Blackjack... that thing was a POS. Granted, it was a POS because of Windows Mobile. I finally found a decent cooked version of 6.x ROM (can't remember what version exactly) and the phone was pretty good then... but that all changed when I purchased the iPhone 3G on launch day.

I've never been interested in having a BlackBerry, but that just comes down to user preference. I prefer a phone that has an excellent web browsing, music management and listening, and video watching experience (not to mention, ease of use when syncing with my Mac). However, my iPhone is synced with my work's Exchange server and I still get a pretty good email experience out of it. IMO, iPhone > BlackBerry for MY needs. There's no doubt that others think the exact opposite.

I do know a few people that have BlackBerrys because work pays for them. They would prefer to have an iPhone, Android phone, etc. if it wasn't for their free BlackBerry.
 
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buying a bb without a BES o use it with is like buying a pickup truck to drive for errands and family trips. Yeah you can do it, and I'm sure lots of people will tell me that they love their bb and/or pickup truck for personal use. But it's not what it was designed for, it's not what it's good at, and it's blatantly inferior to other offerings if that's all you're doing with it.

Now go ahead: flame away and tell me how "not everyone likes the same thing and that's why it's good that we have choices." call me narrow minded, a fan boy (even though I'm not saying it's just the iPhone that's better than bb for personal use - it's a lot of modern smartphones), whatever. But I stand by my assessment. The bb was designed for handling corporate email, security, and central administration. Period. Everything past that has been an afterthought for RIM, and it shows in the final product.
 
Lol, I think this is true. Most people are given Blackberries for work and own iPhones for personal use.
 
Not true.

October 2009 I bought a BB Curve because I was kind of bored with my iPhone. I used for two whole months and cancelled the service and went right back to my iPhone.

I did give the BB for free to a friend however so this is now true for her.

+1. Had my Bold 9700 for a little under two weeks before I switched back; the iPhone was just so much better, in multiple departments.

Back to OP: I generally agree, although I've seen many a businessman "dual-weilding" an iPhone and BB. Wish I had that kind of cash :rolleyes:
 
the 40 people on my BBM contact list would disagree... they're all personally-owned BlackBerries.

BlackBerry has huge traction among university students - many of them are hopping on the bandwagon to access BBM, and it has created a snowball effect.
 
A lot of my teen daughters friends and going to BB from iPhone, because they love the BBM facility....bought for themselves :)
 
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