Wow, please stop. iMessage and FaceTime ONLY require a phone number, obviously we're not talking about iPads and iPods.
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Moto X on KitKat... the future of Android is almost here
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Wow, please stop. iMessage and FaceTime ONLY require a phone number, obviously we're not talking about iPads and iPods.
Are we? Didn't know Facetime and iMessage were exclusive to just one piece of hardware. You are the one bringing up Facetime and iMessage, not just the iPhones capabilities. You realize that those 2 pieces of software operate on many iDevices and aren't exclusive to the iPhone?
So which is it? You want to only discuss software or do you want to discuss the hardware with the software. If it is the former, everything you have said regarding Hangouts is flawed. If you wish to discuss the later, then most of what you have said is actually incorrect. Or do you only want to discuss things, when it favors your point of view?
By the way, what Android device do you own?
Brother upgraded to a moto x from his nexus 4. Received kitkat yesterday. So far amazing phone.
Pros:
Battery life is great. With lots of social media, YouTube and light games it can still get through the day with over 20% left, and over 70% of the time this is on hspa/lte. Not WiFi. The n4 drained battery on hspa as if there was a hole in it. Needed a charge every day around 2pm.
Performance is smooth despite not having the top of the line processor.
The size is perfect. It looks quite small compared to my gs4 despite being only 0.3 inch smaller. Very easy to hold. One hand typng was also much easier. Gotta hand to Motorola for this one, we need more phones of this size with good performance and timely updates.
Radios are super strong. No cutting off of voice during calls like the nexus had. Much stronger signal strength as checked through status menu leading to the better battery life too.
Cons:
Screen could be a bit better. A bit too over saturated .
Pros:
Battery life is great. With lots of social media, YouTube and light games it can still get through the day with over 20% left, and over 70% of the time this is on hspa/lte. Not WiFi. The n4 drained battery on hspa as if there was a hole in it. Needed a charge every day around 2pm.
Performance is smooth despite not having the top of the line processor.
The size is perfect. It looks quite small compared to my gs4 despite being only 0.3 inch smaller. Very easy to hold. One hand typng was also much easier. Gotta hand to Motorola for this one, we need more phones of this size with good performance and timely updates.
Radios are super strong. No cutting off of voice during calls like the nexus had. Much stronger signal strength as checked through status menu leading to the better battery life too.
Cons:
Screen could be a bit better. A bit too over saturated .
Sure, FT and iMessage CAN be used by knowing the person's phone number. FYI, when you iMessage a phone number you're actually sending an SMS, regardless of what device the other person has. iMessage is the front-end only. Sure, iMessage would allow me to message my dad on his iPhone from my WiFi-only iPad by just knowing his phone number, Google isn't quite there yet.
Not sure exactly what about Lloydbm41's list is incorrect. I believe phone number to phone number iMessage is still just a text by another name.
It's like me saying I sent a co-worker a Hangouts message by using his phone number because that was the app I used when in reality all I sent was a text message using the integrated SMS capability in the Hangouts app on my Moto X (running 4.4 KitKat).
The one area where you are correct is that you can initiate a FT "call" by using a phone number but I do believe that number has to be associated with the individual's AppleID, Hangouts isn't there yet as far as I know.
You really shouldn't talk when you guys have no idea what you are talking about.
iMessage is automatic - a new phone number or an existing contact is detected to be iMessage capable and it sends through iMessage. No AppleID is required because it is a hardware registration.
Hangouts is NOT. When choosing a contact to initiate a hangout you must MANUALLY choose either 1) SMS or 2) Hangouts (internet protocol). Neither of these are seamless collated or integrated into one another when one services fails/falls back to the other.
You guys are pretty clueless.
Last I checked, the phone number is registered to your AppleID. Now, I don't have an iPhone (only an iPad) but I would imagine that registration happens automatically now. In fact, this article even SAYS that your iPhone number is linked to your iMessage account when you sign in from your iPhone. The link DOES allow you to send messages from other devices using that number.
As I said in my previous post (that you quoted)
As I said in my previous post (that you quoted)
What you fail to understand is android SOT. Sorry but in terms of SOT for android the iPhone would not under any circumstance get 8-10 SOT. It can't even get 10 hours usage. The Note 2 could not get more than 6 or 7 hours screen on time, and most consider that one of the best battery life's any smartphone in the last 5 years. You just don't get which is fine, but you do need to realize that. Your iPhone battery is good, but it is not that good.
That is great if you need it but ive never lost my phone where i had to call it. I guess some people always do? IDK. IMO the best part of the Moto X is the battery life, but the always on thing is a good one too.
So does the Google Experience Launcher work on the Moto x and maintain all the features the Moto X is known for?
So you think it is easier to obtain and forge a false fingerprint (which requires a lot knowledge, time and equipment) than to just look over your shoulder when entering the pin or guessing it.
The Moto X has a great screen to phone size ratio. 4.7" done right, and almost stock Android. if it only had higher resolution and a thinner body.
So you think it is easier to obtain and forge a false fingerprint (which requires a lot knowledge, time and equipment) than to just look over your shoulder when entering the pin or guessing it.
Time, equipment, knowledge? not really.
Time, equipment, knowledge? not really.
That cat paw was registered previously.
There is actually a process to bypass touch ID, but it requires a perfect fingerprint sample, some very expensive equipment and CSI level fingerprint knowledge:
http://vimeo.com/75324765
Regardless of what's your favorite OS, it is much easier to guess/look at a 4 digit pin than to copy a fingerprint.
Don't forget android has face recognition to unlock your device. Its since been improved a great deal and works quite amazingly and reliably.
Just throwing that into the mix.
Just throwing that into the mix.
Can you elaborate? What part of the Google Experience Launcher does not work on the Moto X without a hack? Are you considering side loading an app a "hack"?
My understanding is the hands free voice commands actually came from Motorola and actually work in more areas (ie not just the homescreen) on the Moto X.
GEL is running great on my GS4 GE, had to be sideloaded yes.
4.4 is not required for GEL either, was running it on 4.3 too
4.4 is not required for GEL either, was running it on 4.3 too
Doesn't that mean GEL can be installed on any Android device?
Am I missing something? Isn't that an incredibly big deal? That means almost any device can feel like stock Android?
Am I missing something? Isn't that an incredibly big deal? That means almost any device can feel like stock Android?
Dialer? Or do you mean a fancy launcher?
If you mean the latter, isn't that what people have been asking for? A stock Android launcher in the form of the Google experience? That was my understanding... No?
Yea,. Meant launcher. It's not like it removes bloatware or anything like , it's just a launcher
Right. Good point.
Still, that's farther than stock Android's ever gotten before. The ability to get a stock-like experience is all the more accessible.
You think everyone uses a 4 digit pin? Some use facial recognition, some use multi-geometric patterns and some use nothing at all. The 4 digit pin is just a simple layer of security, much like your ATM card.
I'm not saying either is perfect. My iPad and iPod don't have fingerprint scanners and I'm not worried about it.
I've read and heard fingerprint scanning fails more often than people want to admit, which can be more frustrating than a dedicated pin or pattern that gets it no matter what.
Also, the fingerprint scanner doesn't go so far in that you sometimes still need to put in your Apple ID password for purchases, etc? I don't remember the exact conditions, but it definitely isn't all encompassing.