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Tom8

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Oct 28, 2010
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My mistake on the ML overall size thing. I was referring to the download size being less than 8GB. I didn't mean the uncompressed size would be less than 8GB. I'm still curious why it would be so much, since there isn't really any groundbreaking additions and it's mostly building on top of the Lion's architecture.

With regards to the download, i think it look me about 40-60 minutes to download Lion. Which is surprising because I never usually get such fast downloads, but I must've been near the front of the download queue so to speak, as I'd finished college by the time Lion was released, so I was waiting for it to go live.
 

iThinkergoiMac

macrumors 68030
Jan 20, 2010
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Terra
My mistake on the ML overall size thing. I was referring to the download size being less than 8GB. I didn't mean the uncompressed size would be less than 8GB. I'm still curious why it would be so much, since there isn't really any groundbreaking additions and it's mostly building on top of the Lion's architecture.

ML almost certainly won't be over 8 GB installed. Lion is only about 5-6 GB installed, and Apple listed 7 GB as the required HDD space. Apple's 8 GB HDD space requirement is to ensure there is room for the swap file as well.
 

sammich

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Sep 26, 2006
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Sarcasmville.
No, you just completely misread my post.

I know swap space is generated as needed. I understand very well the exact process it goes through. If you thought I meant that OS X uses dedicated swap space like Linux does, then you read more into my post than I put in it. But swap files can easily get into the 3 GB range (especially if you don't shut down your computer very often) which is why Apple includes that much in the space requirement. You seem to think that you need extra empty space unrelated to swap for smooth operation, but that's just not true. You should keep about 10% capacity available for the purposes of swap, primarily. There are a few other reasons, but swap is by far the biggest one.

I don't think I did.

Swap is dynamic. You could have 2GB of RAM and you'd need swap as soon as you log in ;) or you'd have 32GB and you'd probably be okay with zero. There's no reason for there to be an arbitrary swap space defined to be required on install, because it'll be different for everyone.

So let me repeat it for you. Have you ever noticed when you download apps to install, like Chrome and it's about 30MB? Then when you install/copy it says it's going to take 130MB?

If there's a misunderstanding, it's because I think you think the clean install size is 4GB, when it's clearly not. It's in the vicinity of 7GB. Perhaps the swap space you're speaking of is that 1GB? ;)
 

50548

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Apr 17, 2005
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Currently in Switzerland
I couldn't find it ... than at number 78 it appeared !!! ITALY : 5,58 Mbps ... just to give you an idea, Kyrgyzstan is almost doubling us !!! :mad::mad::mad:

I think you guys tend to overlook the obvious. Virtually all places in the top 10 or 20 refer to very small territories, or places which have received MASSIVE amounts of external infrastructure assistance in order to have brand new cabling implemented over the last years.

Besides, it's clear that bigger countries with diverse landscapes, legacy infrastructures and multiple internal operators WILL have disparate average speeds, such as the US, Italy and Brazil (whose averages are totally understandable if one thinks of places like Midwest, the poor Italian south or the Amazon, respectively).

To compare them with the likes of Andorra or Estonia is ludicrous, to say the least...
 
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