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MrWeenus

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Jul 26, 2017
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Actually, the 14.4 b4+ seems to have fixed it for me. It still happens, but much, much more rarely.

Previously, it was happening at least 20-40 times a day for me. Now it happens under 5 times.
 

LeeW

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I am on public Beta 14.4 still the same, I am not seeing it happening less in general but I do notice in some apps it does not happen at all. For example, I use two code editors, but it does not occur in Visual Studio Code. In Sublime Text, it happens often.
 

LeeW

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I downgraded tonight and went back to Ventura, which has fixed it. Honestly, it makes no difference to me not running Sonoma. In fact, it actually feels better.
 

DLary

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Updating to 14.4 caused the problem for me. So far only in Safari. Affects webpages but not the Safari menu bar. Restarting Safari fixes it for a short period of time. Also occurs with the latest version of the Safari Technology Preview.

Mac Studio M2 Ultra
 

MrWeenus

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Actually, 14.4 fixed the issue for me almost completely. I think it still happens, but very, very rarely.
 

HDFan

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I was having problems understanding why my pointer in Mail was changing from pointer to a hand while on a call with Apple Support. He pointed me to this article which states that there are two hands - one open and one closed.

Open hand cursor
Open handAppears when the mouse pointer is over an item that you can move and adjust within specific bounds—for example, text within a spreadsheet cell or a table row in a document.

Closed hand cursor
Closed handAppears when you’re moving and adjusting an item within specific bounds—for example, text within a spreadsheet cell or a table row in a document.

 

DLary

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Oct 21, 2005
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Still happening to me on Sonoma 14.5 Beta 4. Closing Safari and re-opening fixes the problem for a period of time then it starts again.
 

DLary

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It only happens in Safari. I have been trying FireFox and so far it hasn't occurred.
 

zevrix

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It only happens in Safari. I have been trying FireFox and so far it hasn't occurred.

May I recommend to just use Edge or/and Chrome instead of Safari then. In my view they're better browsers anyway (I simply never use Safari). I didn't mention Firefox only because its search function is inconsistent with other browsers, which I find counter-productive.
 
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LeeW

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I downgraded to Ventura in March. Last week, I decided to see what had changed, so I upgraded to Sonoma again. And no issues at all, exact same apps, usage and so on. It suggests to me something is going wrong with the update for some, but not all. I hear no issues of anyone with a new device having these issues.

Maybe downgrading and doing the update again was my solution.
 

MrWeenus

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Jul 26, 2017
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To add to the last post, this seems to be on the right track.

I had a Sonoma 14.0 install from the beginning and the mouse cursor issue went 99.9% away with 14.4. Though, I decided to reinstall a few weeks ago and it came back randomly. 🤦‍♂️ And now I have an even weird issue with Safari freezing and needing a full reload.
 

GarryB

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Oct 2, 2015
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Can't help with any insights but, I've had this mouse pointer issue for years over multiple Macs and macOS versions. It happens only occasionally and I've not seen a pattern although Finder seems to be involved more often than not. Also switching between apps seem to cure the misbehaviour for that session.
 
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billynoah

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Mar 18, 2013
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I've also been seeing this for years - today found something that may be helpful. I have a three screen setup and found that the cursor was behaving normally on two of my screens (the ones without the menubar) but not on one. I could easily reproduce this by moving the browser window from one screen to the other. It is very weird. I resolved it for the moment by turning the monitor off and then on again.

I have no explanation since it's obviously a software issue.
 
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cadec

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Feb 7, 2020
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sonoma 14.5 (23F79) is so flipping buggy. Magic Mouse cursor AND cursor location disappears ALL the dang time now. flipping sucky apple. sluggish, unresponsive cursor location .... flipping hate it.
 

siwamo

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Sep 2, 2024
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I just updated my MBP to Ventura 13.6.9 with open core legacy patcher and this bug is driving me crazy. Couldn't find similar conversations in those open core forums so I'll keep following this thread..
 

vinniecent

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Sep 8, 2024
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It has been reported for a while


The problem lay in sonoma refresh rate. Since macbook Pro motion support 120 refresh and other monitors support only 60, sonoma cannot propertly adjust the rate ( it has to be set different on 120 and 60) as a result mouse does not register correct click, resize, etc on macbook or other monitor, given the difference between monitor refresh rate

P.S. Monterey does not this problem
That’s it! This bug has been plaguing me ever since updating to Sonoma, and it’s been driving me crazy. It only happens when my Macbook is connected to my two external monitors (LG UltraFine 23”). Setting the refresh rate of the internal monitor to 60 Hz fixes the issue. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!
 
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