MPB M1 Max Can't Handle Hi-Res PNGs?

[jsnuff1]

So I deal with really high res images, and is one of the reasons I got a M1 Max MBP. Sadly preview chokes on 44x32k 300DPI image. Sure preview is not meant to be a high end image editing app, but come on. How can a 4k 32GB ram laptop designed for this not able to properly open a 300MB image on its stock image software?

Anyone else seeing same issues with really high res images?

 

[kmoreau48]

So I deal with really high res images, and is one of the reasons I got a M1 Max MBP. Sadly preview chokes on 44x32k 300DPI image. Sure preview is not meant to be a high end image editing app, but come on. How can a 4k 32GB ram laptop designed for this not able to properly open a 300MB image on its stock image software?

Anyone else seeing same issues with really high res images?

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Are you referring to the same issue than me?

 

[Sanpete]

Ha, just use a program designed for that. Preview is the Notepad of image viewing apps.

 

[jsnuff1]

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Are you referring to the same issue than me?

Similar except the files I use won't load properly at all.

 

[mreg376]

Ha, just use a program designed for that. Preview is the Notepad of image viewing apps.

Agreed. Unusual that someone would buy an M1 Max to work with 300MB images and use Preview as his go-to imaging app.

 

[arche3]

You need 64 g ram

 

[jsnuff1]

Agreed. Unusual that someone would buy an M1 Max to work with 300MB images and use Preview as his go-to imaging app.

Not really, Preview is just what its called, Preview. I dont need to open adobe to make sure I have the correct image.

Apple selling 4k "Pro" machines that can't open a basic "Pro" image on their stock software is a joke.

 

[solouki]

So I deal with really high res images, and is one of the reasons I got a M1 Max MBP. Sadly preview chokes on 44x32k 300DPI image. Sure preview is not meant to be a high end image editing app, but come on. How can a 4k 32GB ram laptop designed for this not able to properly open a 300MB image on its stock image software?

Anyone else seeing same issues with really high res images?

Hi jsnuff1,

... I was surprised by your trouble, so I wanted to attempt to repeat your tests. I just loaded a 40000x12788 TIFF image (1.82GB) into Preview in 5.22 seconds. So I converted the TIFF to PNG (1.36GB) and it loaded into Preview in 16.12 seconds -- as close as I could measure the times with an Apple Watch stopwatch app.

... just thought you might be interested in another data point, this time on a 16" M1 Max MBP.

Regards,
Solouki

 

[ignatius345]

Not really, Preview is just what its called, Preview. I dont need to open adobe to make sure I have the correct image.

Apple selling 4k "Pro" machines that can't open a basic "Pro" image on their stock software is a joke.

That's like complaining that you can't open an entire book layout file in TextEdit instead of InDesign. You're just using the wrong tool for the job and blaming your hardware. Good luck!

 

[Sanpete]

Apple selling 4k "Pro" machines that can't open a basic "Pro" image on their stock software is a joke.

They can open it, obviously. Just use the proper software for the task.

 

[mreg376]

Not really, Preview is just what its called, Preview. I dont need to open adobe to make sure I have the correct image.

Apple selling 4k "Pro" machines that can't open a basic "Pro" image on their stock software is a joke.

Umm, unless you're brand new to computers, I would have expected you to understand that a "pro" machine does not usually bundle "pro" software. If you expect that every bundled program will be capable of maxing out the machine's computing capacity you're in the wrong computing ballpark. Since you say that "the machine" could not open the file, you may benefit from a basic class that explains the difference between hardware and software.

 

[mreg376]

dup

 

[kmoreau48]

Most people here are juste saying to use the proper software, it's like saying to someone who wants to build his own house to go to the hardware store and buy the proper tools... that's not helpful at all

At least tell us which software you would use to do such task in a more efficient way, that would help OP a lot more than the answers posted in this thread so far.

 

[DanteHicks79]

Not really, Preview is just what its called, Preview. I dont need to open adobe to make sure I have the correct image.

Apple selling 4k "Pro" machines that can't open a basic "Pro" image on their stock software is a joke.

You thinking stock software can handle "pro" images is a joke. It's not like they coded a special version of Preview to use specifically on "Pro" machines; it's the same Preview that came with my Mac mini. Or any iMac.

Notice how Apple doesn't bundle ProLogic or Final Cut for free, even on the $6K Mac Pro? You want "pro" apps, you gotta pay.

 

[mreg376]

Most people here are juste saying to use the proper software, it's like saying to someone who wants to build his own house to go to the hardware store and buy the proper tools... that's not helpful at all

At least tell us which software you would use to do such task in a more efficient way, that would help OP a lot more than the answers posted in this thread so far.

Then OP expressed no interest in software, since he was complaining about the "machine" not being to handle the file. And it appears that he doesn't understand the difference between hardware & software.

 

[ignatius345]

Most people here are juste saying to use the proper software, it's like saying to someone who wants to build his own house to go to the hardware store and buy the proper tools... that's not helpful at all

At least tell us which software you would use to do such task in a more efficient way, that would help OP a lot more than the answers posted in this thread so far.

It's not exactlly difficult information to find, and no, you don't have to "build your own" software. You just download and use something appropriate for the task.

Photoshop will very smoothly handle an image Preview might struggle with because it takes a big hunk of RAM and loads the image into it. It's designed specifically to do this. Other pro image programs: Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, Lightroom, etc. There's also GIMP, which is free and open-source, and probably works better than Preview for something like this.

 

[profcutter]

I do like preview, but it seems to have gotten worse with features and speed over time. It has some unpredictable behavior when opening multiple pdfs, especially downloads. It chugs on large files, sometimes unable to open them at all. I think it needs a total overhaul. As for the OP, I suspect something like lightroom would be the best choice for cataloguing large numbers of massive images?

 

[Redbob]

They can open it, obviously. Just use the proper software for the task.

Preview isn't the proper tool to view images? Who knew.

 

[Sanpete]

Preview isn't the proper tool to view images? Who knew.

Not all images, obviously. But explaining the obvious is generally a waste of time for all involved.

 

[kmoreau48]

It's not exactlly difficult information to find, and no, you don't have to "build your own" software. You just download and use something appropriate for the task.

Photoshop will very smoothly handle an image Preview might struggle with because it takes a big hunk of RAM and loads the image into it. It's designed specifically to do this. Other pro image programs: Pixelmator, Affinity Photo, Lightroom, etc. There's also GIMP, which is free and open-source, and probably works better than Preview for something like this.

** I don't have the same exact issue as OP so keep this in mind while reading my reply **

One of the reasons why I am asking is that, yes I bought a Macbook Pro that is "supposedly" overkill for my needs since all I do is some photo editing as a hobby. I obviously have a lack of deep knowledge about software and hardware (although I know the basics).

With that said, I was surprised when I could not "quickly" look through my photos using preview and I was wondering why. I understand now that some people explained here, that preview is not the right software for the job... but that's not something I could have figured out myself. Also... it might now be difficult to find this information for yourself but if I ask you which type of anchors you would choose tu support 25 000 kg? It's not exactly difficult to find but that does not mean it would be easy for you to actually find the right information.

I already have Affinity photo, but like photoshop or Pixelmator or some other softwares that were proposed here, they are not very useful to go through 1000 photos quickly... in Affinity Photo I would have to open the photos one by one and I can tell you it is now as quick as I expect it to be either. So I did some research myself but still didn't pull the trigger on a more "professional" software to do the job since most of them cost in the $200-$500.
I found out that for batch processing or viewing, Lightroom and capture one are the two that stood out the most but by searching online I could actually find hundreds of software that supposedly could do the job... but which one should I actually choose?

So... in the end all I really want is to view my photos really fast using the keyboard keys in order to find the right picture to edit which I expected preview to be the right software to do so. I don't need fancy bells and whistles... Which software would you recommend to do so, knowing that I already have affinity photo to edit the photos?

 

[Sanpete]

** I don't have the same exact issue as OP so keep this in mind while reading my reply **

One of the reasons why I am asking is that, yes I bought a Macbook Pro that is "supposedly" overkill for my needs since all I do is some photo editing as a hobby. I obviously have a lack of deep knowledge about software and hardware (although I know the basics).

With that said, I was surprised when I could not "quickly" look through my photos using preview and I was wondering why. I understand now that some people explained here, that preview is not the right software for the job... but that's not something I could have figured out myself. Also... it might now be difficult to find this information for yourself but if I ask you which type of anchors you would choose tu support 25 000 kg? It's not exactly difficult to find but that does not mean it would be easy for you to actually find the right information.

I already have Affinity photo, but like photoshop or Pixelmator or some other softwares that were proposed here, they are not very useful to go through 1000 photos quickly... in Affinity Photo I would have to open the photos one by one and I can tell you it is now as quick as I expect it to be either. So I did some research myself but still didn't pull the trigger on a more "professional" software to do the job since most of them cost in the $200-$500.
I found out that for batch processing or viewing, Lightroom and capture one are the two that stood out the most but by searching online I could actually find hundreds of software that supposedly could do the job... but which one should I actually choose?

So... in the end all I really want is to view my photos really fast using the keyboard keys in order to find the right picture to edit which I expected preview to be the right software to do so. I don't need fancy bells and whistles... Which software would you recommend to do so, knowing that I already have affinity photo to edit the photos?

Have you tried Photos? Comes free with the OS.

 

[solouki]

** I don't have the same exact issue as OP so keep this in mind while reading my reply **

One of the reasons why I am asking is that, yes I bought a Macbook Pro that is "supposedly" overkill for my needs since all I do is some photo editing as a hobby. I obviously have a lack of deep knowledge about software and hardware (although I know the basics).

With that said, I was surprised when I could not "quickly" look through my photos using preview and I was wondering why. I understand now that some people explained here, that preview is not the right software for the job... but that's not something I could have figured out myself. Also... it might now be difficult to find this information for yourself but if I ask you which type of anchors you would choose tu support 25 000 kg? It's not exactly difficult to find but that does not mean it would be easy for you to actually find the right information.

I already have Affinity photo, but like photoshop or Pixelmator or some other softwares that were proposed here, they are not very useful to go through 1000 photos quickly... in Affinity Photo I would have to open the photos one by one and I can tell you it is now as quick as I expect it to be either. So I did some research myself but still didn't pull the trigger on a more "professional" software to do the job since most of them cost in the $200-$500.
I found out that for batch processing or viewing, Lightroom and capture one are the two that stood out the most but by searching online I could actually find hundreds of software that supposedly could do the job... but which one should I actually choose?

So... in the end all I really want is to view my photos really fast using the keyboard keys in order to find the right picture to edit which I expected preview to be the right software to do so. I don't need fancy bells and whistles... Which software would you recommend to do so, knowing that I already have affinity photo to edit the photos?

Hi kmoreau48,

Besides Apple's Photos.app that comes with the operating system, there is also a special mode of the Finder that allows you to scroll through a folder (directory) of photos while showing a stream of thumbnails and a larger version of the photo. If your photos are in a folder, you might like this method, but I would suggest loading your photos into the Photos.app as the best possible alternative.

The Folder "picture mode" is set by clicking on its icon in the Finder's menu bar. The icon appears as a rectangle with a row of small dots under the rectangle. If the folder you are currently visiting in the Finder window has photos in it, you will see their thumbnails under a window showing a large version of the currently chosen photo. You can then scroll through the other photos.

Regards,
Solouki

 

[JoeFkling]

Photo Mechanic. Works the best.

 

[kmoreau48]

Have you tried Photos? Comes free with the OS.

To be honest, I have not tried the photos app, I will definitely try it. Thanks for the tip.

Hi kmoreau48,

Besides Apple's Photos.app that comes with the operating system, there is also a special mode of the Finder that allows you to scroll through a folder (directory) of photos while showing a stream of thumbnails and a larger version of the photo. If your photos are in a folder, you might like this method, but I would suggest loading your photos into the Photos.app as the best possible alternative.

The Folder "picture mode" is set by clicking on its icon in the Finder's menu bar. The icon appears as a rectangle with a row of small dots under the rectangle. If the folder you are currently visiting in the Finder window has photos in it, you will see their thumbnails under a window showing a large version of the currently chosen photo. You can then scroll through the other photos.

Regards,
Solouki

Thanks for the information, I will try this method as well and see if it works well for me.

 

[ignatius345]

** I don't have the same exact issue as OP so keep this in mind while reading my reply **

One of the reasons why I am asking is that, yes I bought a Macbook Pro that is "supposedly" overkill for my needs since all I do is some photo editing as a hobby. I obviously have a lack of deep knowledge about software and hardware (although I know the basics).

With that said, I was surprised when I could not "quickly" look through my photos using preview and I was wondering why. I understand now that some people explained here, that preview is not the right software for the job... but that's not something I could have figured out myself. Also... it might now be difficult to find this information for yourself but if I ask you which type of anchors you would choose tu support 25 000 kg? It's not exactly difficult to find but that does not mean it would be easy for you to actually find the right information.

I already have Affinity photo, but like photoshop or Pixelmator or some other softwares that were proposed here, they are not very useful to go through 1000 photos quickly... in Affinity Photo I would have to open the photos one by one and I can tell you it is now as quick as I expect it to be either. So I did some research myself but still didn't pull the trigger on a more "professional" software to do the job since most of them cost in the $200-$500.
I found out that for batch processing or viewing, Lightroom and capture one are the two that stood out the most but by searching online I could actually find hundreds of software that supposedly could do the job... but which one should I actually choose?

So... in the end all I really want is to view my photos really fast using the keyboard keys in order to find the right picture to edit which I expected preview to be the right software to do so. I don't need fancy bells and whistles... Which software would you recommend to do so, knowing that I already have affinity photo to edit the photos?

Finder will take care of this pretty decently. I'd recommend just opening your folder in icon view (with icons set to a larger size) or "cover flow" view. I often do just that to quickly edit down a batch of images from my Olympus before importing them into Photos. If you want a quick closer view of a particular image in Finder, select it and hit the space bar to activate Quick Look. You can also select multiple images and use Quick Look, and you'll get a grid of all of them.

Any of these methods is probably gonna be faster than opening a ton of images at once with Preview, which will try to display the entirety of each image -- even with 15 MP images that is quite a lot of pixels to be pushing when you're talking about hundreds of them.

One tip with Photos. If you want to manage everything in Finder folders and just use Photos to display things, you can uncheck "Copy items to the Photos library" in its Preferences. If you check that box, each image will be imported (and duplicated) into the Photos library. That might be what you want, but in case it isn't you can work with it as a supplement to Finder instead of as a replacement.