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iPod MS please give up on the Zune
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Probably all the new OS X based iPods (Nano, Classic, Touch, and iPhone).
Touch and iPhone, when they decide to add it...
The 3G iPod got the 4G iPod's features
1/2gen iPods never got G4 firmware updates, the most they got were the features of the 3G iPod when it first came out.
Personally, I can not wait to try the new Zune software... and I really wish the iPod Classic could get wireless sync, wireless multi-player games, and a 3D GUI.
I would never actually buy a Zune over an iPod, but I have to admit that the new ones are starting to look pretty cool, especially with the announcement of 'Zune Originals Collection'. Basically, they've partnered with a bunch of artists from all over the world to create 27 original, laser-etched designs that you can add to any Zune you buy. It would be nice if Apple did something like this too.
https://zuneoriginals.net/
https://zuneoriginals.net/
I still don't understand how anybody could possibly think the front of that looks decent. I mean, the designs on the back are sexy as hell, but the thick beveled puke-green face of it is terrible. I'm seriously trying to like it, but I cringe every time I look at that picture. The brown Zune looked much sexier.
As soon as there are enough Zune owners, there won't be firmware updates for older Zunes. Apple did the same thing with older iPods; as soon as people were just buying enough new ones, it didn't make sense to try to keep the old ones updated.
Maybe they should start by making it Mac compatible.
if that happened I'd sell my ipod.
Gents,Ladies and All Children: I say get ready to swamp wit your 'Snail Mail '. why i say that here's Microsoft's corp. mail address.. for those who wanna kill the zune ..
Address
Please include the recipient's first and last name, or the department name.
Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052-6399
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Please include the recipient's first and last name, or the department name.
Microsoft Corporation
One Microsoft Way
Redmond, WA 98052-6399
I have used every iPod since its inception and i can honestly tell you that the Classic's interface is by far the best out of all the previous models. I have used the Zune as well, and the only thing going for it in the UI now is the eye candy. The small parts of the iPod UI that Apple made non linear really help in navigating through the menus and it is the fastest pod I have ever used.
The touch will soon become the standard iPod once flash based drives become more affordable. For now, the only pod worth getting is the 160GB Classic since it just has unbelievable space. The touch is wonderful, and better than the any music player out there, including the Zune.
Right now the Zune is only as good as the person that chooses to buy one, and that isn't saying much.
I agree, the zune is horrible.. It would have been a great device if this was November 2001...
Have you....used one?
Like Apple just some how manages to pick the best colors for it's nanos?
The original art is a killer idea - I would buy one just for that.
I've used the old Zune before, and honestly I didn't feel it was much different than an iPod - just different looking.
I think the new Zune looks a thousand times better, and as others have said, if it were mac compatible I would probably buy one when my iPod dies instead of going back to an iPod.
The general consensus among reviewers right now is that the new 80gb Zune > the iPod Classic in almost every catagory except maximum capacity and battery life.
Microsoft seems to have gotten their act together. This is good news.
Hell, if they'd add Mac compatibility to the thing I'd probably get one over a Classic.
Microsoft seems to have gotten their act together. This is good news.
Hell, if they'd add Mac compatibility to the thing I'd probably get one over a Classic.
The classics were a bit of a disappointment, I think Apple wants everyone to go down the touch route.
The artwork on the back is stunning.
I like the green colour on the flash Zune, I think it is classy, but don't like other parts of the design. The Zune Pad looks fine, it's the other buttons and the big black border around the screen.
They will appeal to people seeking an alternative, but offer nothing significantly better over iPod + iTunes.
The artwork on the back is stunning.
I like the green colour on the flash Zune, I think it is classy, but don't like other parts of the design. The Zune Pad looks fine, it's the other buttons and the big black border around the screen.
They will appeal to people seeking an alternative, but offer nothing significantly better over iPod + iTunes.
I don't think that's the case at all. There is nothing in the Zune besides WiFi that makes it any better than the Classic. I will give credit to the Zune's UI which was much better than the Video iPod's, but saying that the Zune is better in every aspect is just plain denial and illogical.
I don't think the buttons on the Zune players are that much different from other players. There are some Samsung players that are better, and plenty of cell phones that can play AAC files and have over 4GB of memory.
Wrong. How can Apple prefer people buy the Touch when it only has up to 16GB storage? To me it was a no brainer, I bought the 160GB Classic because it is small and has tons of space. I don't even have mine half filled yet but it's fun trying. I have my 8GB iPhone but I prefer to use my Classic when listening to music simply because I have everything on it. I don't have to go home every night and change the music on it when I want something differant.
It's not the buttons themselves, it's the positioning in relation to the other elements on the front on the Zune. I should have been clearer.
I agree with this and that is the setup I am trying to get. I don't want to switch from Sprint to AT&T where i live so that gap is still there. The 160GB Classic has been more than amazing in speed and video playback quality. I have it filled with 70+ movies and a plethora of TV shows and music videos. I have my favorite photos and my entire music library and I still have over 70GB of space left. There is no way someone is going to prove that the Zune's stylings -- i do love the artwork on the back though -- and features are better than having 160GB of space for the price of the Zune's 80GB.
I used to think that the Zune's UI was hands over foot better than the iPod's, it still remains that way with the Classic but not by much, and the Touch will certainly replace the Classic once flash is affordable. At that point, the UI of the Touch and iPhone will destroy anything that hasn't caught up, and the Zune is still in a game of catch up to the quality and simplicity of the iPod.
Oh... sorry. I didn't mean anything by my statement other than the fact that the Zune uses buttons. The new setup is a much better improvement over the previous model though. IMHO until something destroys the click wheel interface, other than Multi Touch, everything else is just a button, albeit a well placed button.
The only OS X-based iPods are the Touch and iPhone. The current Nano and Classic both run a new, modified version of the legacy Portal Player operating system.
Hmm, like some other people who commented here, I think that it's sad to see so many fanboys yelling how hard the Zune sux. Luckily most reviewers don't agree. As someone else mentioned, the new Zune 80 is pretty much on par with the obvious competitor, the iPod Classic (I wouldn't bring the touch into this battle, since it's targeted at a different part of market).
Like someone mentioned, for now, iPods biggest advantages are battery life (both makers declared 30 hours, the iPod gets even more, Zune gets less) and slightly smaller dimensions (103.5 mm x 61.8 mm x 10.5 mm vs 108.2 x 61.1 x 12.9mm).
On the other hand - the Zune is lighter (128 g vs 140 g), has wireless (g) support for syncing and player to player song exchange, FM radio support, customisable back panels, better charge times (2.25 h full / 1.25 h 90% vs 4 h full / 2h 80%) and a much bigger screen (with the same resolution).
Other things i think are tied:
-Both players have very decent earphones (iPod's are known to be above average, Zune's are in-ear, which usually means it's not the cheapest crap out there).
-Microsoft completely revamped the interface, the software and the online store, many reviewers are liking the new style and MS is also offering DRM free songs. On the other hand, iTunes is a great piece of software/service, one of the selling points of the iPod and can't be beaten that easily.
-The actual physical design is pretty equal too IMHO, although noone can really judge that. I like the iPod very much, but I can't say the Zune is any uglier, don't think the above photo with the green model was fair, after all, there is a much prettier black version.
So at the end of the day I'd say the iPod got a really nice competitor. They are very equal players with some advantages on both sides, although right now I think it's normal for the Zune to get a lot of critisism on this forum, since it doesn't have Mac support and people who come here are mainly Mac users.
Like someone mentioned, for now, iPods biggest advantages are battery life (both makers declared 30 hours, the iPod gets even more, Zune gets less) and slightly smaller dimensions (103.5 mm x 61.8 mm x 10.5 mm vs 108.2 x 61.1 x 12.9mm).
On the other hand - the Zune is lighter (128 g vs 140 g), has wireless (g) support for syncing and player to player song exchange, FM radio support, customisable back panels, better charge times (2.25 h full / 1.25 h 90% vs 4 h full / 2h 80%) and a much bigger screen (with the same resolution).
Other things i think are tied:
-Both players have very decent earphones (iPod's are known to be above average, Zune's are in-ear, which usually means it's not the cheapest crap out there).
-Microsoft completely revamped the interface, the software and the online store, many reviewers are liking the new style and MS is also offering DRM free songs. On the other hand, iTunes is a great piece of software/service, one of the selling points of the iPod and can't be beaten that easily.
-The actual physical design is pretty equal too IMHO, although noone can really judge that. I like the iPod very much, but I can't say the Zune is any uglier, don't think the above photo with the green model was fair, after all, there is a much prettier black version
.So at the end of the day I'd say the iPod got a really nice competitor. They are very equal players with some advantages on both sides, although right now I think it's normal for the Zune to get a lot of critisism on this forum, since it doesn't have Mac support and people who come here are mainly Mac users.
How is the 80GB Zune the same price as a 160GB iPod?
The 80GB Zune is the same price as an 80GB iPod.
I personally prefer the new Zune's styling over the iPod classic, the customizable "tatoos" on the back are just stunning. I also think that the UI is prettier, and from what I have seen in the UI demos, very intuiative and responsive.
I don't know why so many people think that this is a bad thing... Let Microsoft take some of Apple's market. It will only lead to good things. A good example is AMD vs. Intel. If AMD didn't kick the **** out of Intel in the early 2000's, do you think we would have the Core 2 Duo of today?
Sorry, got my numbers crossed but either way... it's a matter of opinion how the Zune relates to the iPod. I am not saying that is sucks, I love the art on the back, but other than that what else is there? The UI on the Zune is about as annoying as the iPod; neither are that bad but they are still annoying. Have you tried using the WiFi on the Zune? It's terrible, I don;t know if they have changed it from the original version.
And as many other reviewers that aren't fanboys have said... why get 80 GB when you can get 160? I have 80GB of movies... so what do I do... I get the 160 Classic which is still an par with the Zune in every aspect, but once you take into account the software and ease of use in syncing photos, music, etc. the iPod wins out in my court... and this is from a previous user of the Zune.... it's nice, but not that much better than the iPod... all in all, it's up to the user.
I would actually be interested in a Zune if it would work with iTunes. The interface isn't the best, but having an FM tuner built-in is really nice for those of us who enjoy listening to the radio from time to time.
I'm just going by all the reviews I've read for it thus far. It is, apparently, a more appealing device overall.
By the way, you never owned up for being wrong about that iMac keyboard.