My 3G, Droid, Verizon and my thoughts...

[abijnk]

Just go look at what Apple did to O2.
They did a secret deal with Vodafone so they could get the iPhone.
Vodafone could not go public with because Apple was in talks with O2 at the time and Apple let O2 assume that they were the only one they were in talking with. This got Apple a better deal with O2 but it only works once. After that companies will assume Apple always doing something like that behind there back and will treat apple as such.

The trust is gone.

If there was no exclusivity contract involved with the O2 deal then it is strictly ignorance on their part. Apple's deals with carriers are never done out in the open, so of course neither O2 nor Vodafone were out talking about it.

EDIT: Or, what OllyW said.

 

[mackmgg]

• It is on AT&T
• You can't use your own e-mail and have Push with it.
• No True MultiTasking

I use google apps, so I have push through exchange with my @mackgoodstein.com email address. I am also jailbroken, so I have true multitasking, and multiple exchange addresses

 

[Rodimus Prime]

I don't know where you are getting this information from?

Apple only had a two year exclusive with O2 which has now finished. Orange (not Vodafone) were the first to get the iPhone in November after the end of the exclusive deal followed by Tesco (an O2 partner) in December, with Vodafone only getting it last week.

Selling through multiple networks is the best way forward for Apple and the iPhone.

There is no denying that that is the best way to do it. But the fact that they tried to keep it behind close doors was were the unethical part came in. Now all companies will assume apple is in talks with there competitors and treat them as such in only offering them deals as if they were.
ATT is more than likely assuming apple is in talks with Verizon and is going to go with Verizon so the specail treatment the iPhone has been getting is going to end. Hence androids are coming to ATT.

 

[ksoze]

Now all companies will assume apple is in talks with there competitors and treat them as such in only offering them deals as if they were.

That's one way to get the best deal. The tech business world is not a Boy Scout Jamboree and anyone assuming that a deal they are discussing is probably not already drafted with a competitor is in for a rocky ride. AT&T assumes Apple is talking to Verizon every single day and the only for sure is the signed contract they hold in their hand. if it were any other way, we would be paying a hell of lot more from theses service providers for ALL phones.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

That's one way to get the best deal. The tech business world is not a Boy Scout Jamboree and anyone assuming that a deal they are discussing is probably not already drafted with a competitor is in for a rocky ride. AT&T assumes Apple is talking to Verizon every single day and the only for sure is the signed contract they hold in their hand. if it were any other way, we would be paying a hell of lot more from theses service providers for ALL phones.

But you do not get it. That trick only works once. After that the good faith trust is gone and it is assumed Apple is making deals behind your back.

It is all about good faith. A company that has a reputation for good faith in the long run gets better deals. Short run not so much. Apple from what I have read and seen is not a good faith company. in dealing with apple you assume they are trying to screw you over.

 

[ksoze]

in dealing with apple you assume they are trying to screw you over.

In dealing with ANY company, you assume they are looking for the best deal, out for themselves and their shareholders first. You call that screwing you over, I call it reality. If Apple reneges on a deal, it is a legal contract matter. Jobs had a reputation for over thirty years of being a pain in the ass with vendors and would squeeze the best deal he could. A few minutes outside his office on Bandley 3 would be proof. He is still here and so is Apple.

 

[Applejuiced]

In dealing with ANY company, you assume they are looking for the best deal, out for themselves and their shareholders first. You call that screwing you over, I call it reality. If Apple reneges on a deal, it is a legal contract matter. Jobs had a reputation for over thirty years of being a pain in the ass with vendors and would squeeze the best deal he could. A few minutes outside his office on Bandley 3 would be proof. He is still here and so is Apple.

Well said
Welcome to the real and harsh reality.
There is no good faith or fareness in the big corporate world, it's about making millions and securying their investments thru contracts and lawsuits.