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mkrishnan

Moderator emeritus
Jan 9, 2004
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Grand Rapids, MI, USA
1) This is understandable. The "r" does stand for "recordable," but the two terms are pretty much interchangeable.

2) He has no idea what flash storage is.

1) Write doesn't even begin with an R!!!! :D

2) Well, if there's a flash, there's light. Lasers are light. Quid erat demonstrandum. :p

Seriously... all of these comments sound like they're from the blooper reel... but what gets me is that they're so irrelevant to the topic at hand. This isn't like a calculus professor who cannot do trig. This is like a calculus professor telling you that chocolate is made from cayenne peppers....
 

lag1090

macrumors 6502
Jan 28, 2007
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NJ
1) Write doesn't even begin with an R!!!! :D

You have to understand that the man is pretty much like every non-tech person when it comes to understanding things. Even as a tech person, "recordable" and "writable" are pretty much synonymous, regardless of what letter the word begins with. I think he was just trying to explain in terms which he and probably most of the class could understand.

Not that I'm defending him or anything, but cut him a break on that. It would be fairly unreasonable of you not to.
 

mkrishnan

Moderator emeritus
Jan 9, 2004
29,776
15
Grand Rapids, MI, USA
Not that I'm defending him or anything, but cut him a break on that. It would be fairly unreasonable of you not to.

I was just being flippant, sorry. The second part (about the lack of necessity to even address these topics in the first place) I meant in earnest. The third part was also flippant. Chocolate is not made from cayenne peppers.
 

MisterMe

macrumors G4
Jul 17, 2002
10,709
69
USA
Not necessarily true for fields like Philosophy, English, and such. But certainly true for CS.
College professor is a job like any other. You have people who are good; you have people who are bad; and you have people who are mediocre. That is true of attorneys, lawn care specialists, auto mechanics, and carpenters. Remember that you are the customer or client and should get the best service available for the money you spend. However, it is up to you to make that happen. Smart consumers research the businesses that they patronize. My experience is that the best students research their professors for the best available. Poor to mediocre students enroll in whichever class fits their schedule.
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
10,136
4
If this is a class that the infomatoin is required on. Question the prof.

I have noticed it is always underclassmen who are affraid to speak up. The upperclassmen in college we question our profs all the time. Now normally we are wrong but we question them and ask for justifaction. Most of the time they are very find giving it.

Now I have been in classes where a few of us where upperclassmen the rest just in their 2nd year of college. The 6 or 7 of us who where upperclassmen in there did give the professor a hard time and question him on most facts. Now he dished it back out to us. Now if one of the underclassmen tried the same stunt he wouldn't take it.

I will say prof do be come cooler most of the time after you pass you 2nd year.
As for you prof question him. It more than likely will earn you his respect because you had the guts to do it. Just make sure you do it professionally.
 

luminosity

macrumors 65816
Jan 10, 2006
1,364
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Arizona
Everyone knows that college professors and uni lecturers are people who weren't good enough to get real jobs in their professions anyway.

That's not true. There are a great many professors who are at the top of their fields and contribute with either important research or with their teaching (or, very occasionally, both at the same time). Academia suits some people, just as other work suits other folks.

Those who can do, teach.
 

Father Jack

macrumors 68020
Jan 1, 2007
2,481
1
Ireland
Fortunately not all Prof's and Uni lecturers are crap, but they are human and as such some are good and some are ...... well Crap .. :eek:
 

bousozoku

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Jun 25, 2002
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That's good but not unremarkable. The first Java instructor I had talked about the "run everywhere" bit of Java but always talked about Windows, as if no other computers existed.

Another one was teaching BASIC, probably for 20 years, and handed out an example as a kind of template for the final programming project. The only problem was that the example didn't work. I got a call from someone in the class and I took a quick look and it had an obvious flaw. I e-mailed the instructor and he said something like "oh, you can't use that for the final" and ignored the fact that he was misleading students.

Warm bodies. We just need warm bodies to fill the seats.
 

p0intblank

macrumors 68030
Sep 20, 2005
2,548
2
New Jersey
Wow, your professor sounds totally out there when it comes to understanding computers. You should've seen my professor tonight trying to use Windows. o_O I've actually found a good amount of my professors in college to have trouble using the computers.

And yes, Windows did crash in class tonight. I was laughing on the inside and saying "Get a Mac." :)
 

CalBoy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2007
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Not necessarily true for fields like Philosophy, English, and such. But certainly true for CS.

I always thought the running joke was English instructors/teachers were failed authors? Isn't that why they spend all of their time analyzing real authors?:p
 

sushi

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Jul 19, 2002
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6. And finally...here's the kicker he said today. He said about 10 years ago, the University would have to buy a copy of MS Office for each computer, which cost a lot. (ie: $300 per workstation on all campus computers)
I found this comment interesting.

FWIW, in the early 90's, the government would purchase individual software packages. When your organization was inspected, you would have to produce original boxes with the discs (floppy mostly, but some CD) and the user manuals for each installation.

In our case, at that time we had:
- WordPerfect
- Lotus 1-2-3
- Harvard Graphics
- dBase III+
- DOS 6.22/DOS V, then Windows 3.11, then Windows 95

Some computers were set up with Japanese versions and others with English versions of the software.

Around Windows 98, we moved over to Licensing the OS and applications. But prior to that, we had to purchase individual copies of the OS and applications for each computer and we were audited once per year.

Also, if memory serves, when Adobe Acrobat 4 was introduced, we wanted to use it for our office. So we had to go through the formal requisition process for each copy we wanted to install. Now, many years later, we have an Adobe Acrobat license.

I don't know about the education market at that time, but I would assume (yes, I know that is dangerous) that the government and education markets were handled the same way.

So maybe your professor is correct but his timing is wrong. Maybe about 15 years ago they had to purchase individual copies of the OS and applications.

I am sure glad that we have gone to the licensing model. So much nicer, easy to implement and cheaper.

As for the rest the garbage he spouted, you will find that at the college level. Some instructors want you to challenge them. Others do not. Tread carefully until you know for sure. Otherwise it might affect your grade. One way to do this is in private after class. Just ask for a clarification of something such as the C2D running at 2MHz. He might have simply misspoke meaning to say C2D at 2GHz. Then again he might not know.

A friend of mine that has since retired, was one of the most knowledgeable computer types I knew. He started out when you had to hand wire the instructions and data on boards that you then loaded into the computer. We used to have fun discussions about many things. He even played games. But his favorite topic was the OS and like to dissect it and try weird things. Real hacker type stuff.

When he retired about 4 years ago, he was in great physical shape. He had been an airborne ranger and was here in occupational Japan. He was 77 years old.

Now why do I tell you this story. Well, he had one quirk that use to frustrate me. He used the term bits for both bits and bytes. The numbers were always correct, but the terms were off. It would go something like this. The xyz processor has a 32 bit data path, so it can transfer 4 bits per memory fetch. I would say 4 bytes correct? And he would reply. Yes, 4 bits. After a while I got used to his quirk. He was such a wealth of information and fun to talk with.
 

mad jew

Moderator emeritus
Apr 3, 2004
32,191
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Adelaide, Australia
That's not true. There are a great many professors who are at the top of their fields and contribute with either important research or with their teaching (or, very occasionally, both at the same time). Academia suits some people, just as other work suits other folks.

Those who can do, teach.


It was a bad reference to an Aussie TV show mate. Ignore me. It's for the best. :p
 
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