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skratch77

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I didn't read half of your post to be honest but oled have way faster responce time then lcds.

I'm not talking about finger input I'm talking about motion production as amoled is razer fast like plasma tech was before it's end.

I also read somewhere that the note 4 still has faster input time then the iPhone also but u already knew that

Please show us this improved digitizer you are talking about as the note 3 was the fastest tested with 67 ms and anandtech measured 20ms on the note 4 and that literally is 3 times faster responce time then the iPhone screen. I'm just posting facts here bud but please stop posting bs about the note 4 it's by far the best display out.
 

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Zwhaler

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Check this out

http://gizmodo.com/the-galaxy-note-4s-screen-compared-to-its-toughest-comp-1646581091
 

BlueGoldAce

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Their is fanboy...and there is this guy....little ridiculous.

Why can't people enjoy what they got?
 

Bahroo

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Never had burn in on my Note II after nearly 2 years. I've definitely seen it on S5 display models, but it hasn't affected me. Believe me, I'm not a fan of diamond subpixels. With this amount of density it no longer bothers me. Note 3, yeah it did... I actually liked the II better at 720p RGB. But why is it the G3 with RGB looks worse than the Note 4 on Google Maps? The demo videos look phenomenal on the Note 4, btw. 1080p on the Plus looks sharp, but not as good as this, despite any arguments about the subpixels. I got the Note for the s pen which is super useful to highlight text like a mouse, and for the smaller chins and magnetic case that turns the screen on and off like the iPad covers. Plus is a blown up iPhone, you don't get a lot of extra functionality with that size other than the size. I might anticipate trading in my 4 next year for a 5 with 4K. Just saying.

LG G3 panel and display is not as good as the Plus, despite it being Quad HD, after 1080p, there are diminishing returns for some things with LCD(G3 display not as bright as competitors, oversharpening effect that many have complained about, etc)

I dont think we will see a 4K display in a phone until 2016 minimum, that is when Mobile GPU's in these smartphone SoC's will be plenty powerful to run at 4k and 60 fps, enough to power the display, and also being tons more power efficient (smaller manufacuturing node, etc)
 

Bahroo

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I didn't read half of your post to be honest but oled have way faster responce time then lcds.

I'm not talking about finger input I'm talking about motion production as amoled is razer fast like plasma tech was before it's end.

I also read somewhere that the note 4 still has faster input time then the iPhone also but u already knew that

Please show us this improved digitizer you are talking about as the note 3 was the fastest tested with 67 ms and anandtech measured 20ms on the note 4 and that literally is 3 times faster responce time then the iPhone screen. I'm just posting facts here bud but please stop posting bs about the note 4 it's by far the best display out.

the Note 3 gets 67 ms input time with ALL gestures turned off, you know the "major S features and eye scrolling features" , does everyone have all the main selling point features on their phone turned off? the 5S comes in at 75 ms. And it uses a in-cell touch display, the 6/6Plus no longer use in-cell,

And where does it say in Anandtechs review of the Galaxy Note 4 the input time , please show me where it says 20 ms for the Note 4 I am just curious, and you know anything under really a few MS is essentially beyond good and that its essentially impossible to detect any faster response times..? Credit to OLED there but that doesn't really make much of a difference at all in real world ,
 

skratch77

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the Note 3 gets 67 ms input time with ALL gestures turned off, you know the "major S features and eye scrolling features" , does everyone have all the main selling point features on their phone turned off? the 5S comes in at 75 ms. And it uses a in-cell touch display, the 6/6Plus no longer use in-cell,

And where does it say in Anandtechs review of the Galaxy Note 4 the input time , please show me where it says 20 ms for the Note 4 I am just curious, and you know anything under really a few MS is essentially beyond good and that its essentially impossible to detect any faster response times..? Credit to OLED there but that doesn't really make much of a difference at all in real world ,

It needs 20ms for vr to work! Samsung is calling it motion to photon funny part is the note 4 is not samsungs best screen.there best screen is in the Korean version of the gs5 with its 2k res on a 5.1 in screen (577ppi)and it's using the same tech as the note 4.I wish more review sites would bench that screen but it's only in one market right now.I think that cell is the highest ppi cell ever made
 

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Vegastouch

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Their is fanboy...and there is this guy....little ridiculous.

Why can't people enjoy what they got?

Yeah i dont get it. Just like what you got. This guy is way over the top. Only very picky guys would fiddle with their screen settings everytime they look at something different. Thats OCD to me but he CAN mess with if he wants because it is an option. Not so on iOS.

I think the displays on the GS5 and Note 4 are very nice as i do on the iP6. I also like my Nexus 5 screen. I prefer IPS because it is easier to see in daylight but it wouldnt stop me from getting another OLED screen today since they are improved.

I have never gave a damn about benchmarks. I dont know what they are for my phone or any others and dont know what is the fastest going now and im not interested. Ive never been to Anandtechs website. I dont care if something loads a few millisecond earlier than the other. Thats just being petty.
 
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jamezr

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Yeah i dont get it. Just like what you got. This guy is way over the top. Only very picky guys would fiddle with their screen settings everytime they look at something different. Thats OCD to me but he CAN mess with if he wants because it is an option. Not so on iOS.

I think the displays on the GS5 and Note 4 are very nice as i do on the iP6. I also like my Nexus 5 screen. I prefer IPS because it is easier to see in daylight but it wouldnt stop me from getting another OLED screen today since they are improved.

I have never gave a damn about benchmarks. I dont know what they are for my phone or any others and dont know what is the fastest going now and im not interested. Ive never been to Anandtechs website. I dont care it something loads a few millisecond earlier than the other. Thats just being petty.
He just started this thread because of the other one almost just like it. People were stating how they like the Note 4 over the IP6+ so he got butt hurt about it. He seems to align his self worth with the phone or products he uses. So it is an emotional response for him.
 

BlueGoldAce

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It needs 20ms for vr to work! Samsung is calling it motion to photon funny part is the note 4 is not samsungs best screen.there best screen is in the Korean version of the gs5 with its 2k res on a 5.1 in screen (577ppi)and it's using the same tech as the note 4.I wish more review sites would bench that screen but it's only in one market right now.I think that cell is the highest ppi cell ever made
What's the point? This guy is funding everything thing he can to justify his choice... And now he is making up stuff.

Companies have caught up with apple and in some areas surpassed them. It's a constantly fluid market space now with a new phone constantly topping the previous one.

But this guy... He is even ignoring the physics between the different screen technologies.
 

jamezr

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What's the point? This guy is funding everything thing he can to justify his choice... And now he is making up stuff.

Companies have caught up with apple and in some areas surpassed them. It's a constantly fluid market space now with a new phone constantly topping the previous one.

But this guy... He is even ignoring the physics between the different screen technologies.
We should all just ignore him. He is just trolling....trying to get a reaction for everyone.
 

skratch77

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He comes up with some wacko responces also.like the main selling points being eye scrolling lmfao.I have never onced used eye gestures on my gs4 or gs5 and were def not the reason I bought the cells.
 

jamezr

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He comes up with some wacko responces also.like the main selling points being eye scrolling lmfao.I have never onced used eye gestures on my gs4 or gs5 and were def not the reason I bought the cells.
me either....never tried it.....
 

Bahroo

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He comes up with some wacko responces also.like the main selling points being eye scrolling lmfao.I have never onced used eye gestures on my gs4 or gs5 and were def not the reason I bought the cells.

if you actually read my post just before, you would actually see why i mentioned the eye scrolling and gestures on the phone, but you just seemed to gloss pass it and not even read it, the Note 3 gets 67 ms touch input time with all S FEATUREs off, gestures off, you know disabling alot of the features the phone comes with lmao....

and honestly I am not trolling why would I ever waste time trolling? I been on this website for years, been coming here for years (first forum lurker then i signed up) and i bring up very valid points, the color shift and white point shift is alot less on the Plus then it is on the Note 4 and that is a reason why i like the Plus display better, now it just seems like people are getting mad here because I prefer the Plus display over the note 4 display. LOL talk about the Android fanboys who stay lurking this part of the forum?
 

skratch77

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if you actually read my post just before, you would actually see why i mentioned the eye scrolling and gestures on the phone, but you just seemed to gloss pass it and not even read it, the Note 3 gets 67 ms touch input time with all S FEATUREs off, gestures off, you know disabling alot of the features the phone comes with lmao....

and honestly I am not trolling why would I ever waste time trolling? I been on this website for years, been coming here for years (first forum lurker then i signed up) and i bring up very valid points, the color shift and white point shift is alot less on the Plus then it is on the Note 4 and that is a reason why i like the Plus display better, now it just seems like people are getting mad here because I prefer the Plus display over the note 4 display. LOL talk about the Android fanboys who stay lurking this part of the forum?

Enjoy using your iPhone at a 40 degree angle to get better colors and brighter display.

I cant believe u also said oled has similar refresh rates to lcd lol
 

Bahroo

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I love how Samsung allowing you to change screen modes has actually been turned into a negative by this guy!!

thanks Samsung, for screen modes that we have to constantly keep micro managing to the content we are playing/viewing/watching, thank you Samsung... for making us have to tap into through few menus, then change the screen mode to the content your viewing every single time...no wonder why nobody ever changes the screen mode on their Galaxy devices or that reviewers never even mention this part of the phone, no one wants to keep micro managing the screen modes! its good that they incoporated this feature but why a complete half ass implementation on for automatic screen modes only working for Samsung Applications only? I have owned 4 Galaxy devices, and not on one did i ever use the screen mode settings because it is cumbersom and annoying to have to keep micro mananging the dam screen modes to the content your viewing lol! its beyond annoying, and the fact that the automatic adapative screen mode only works for Samsungs applications sucks too, it doesn't work for any other applications that I use (you know the much better Chrome browser then the stock browser that comes with Galaxy devices, etc)

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Enjoy using your iPhone at a 40 degree angle to get better colors and brighter display.

I cant believe u also said oled has similar refresh rates to lcd lol

pretty clear I was talking about input time response touch input time, maybe it wasn't 100% clear in what i said but that was what I was talking about, response time in both are extremely superb and the Note 4's "better response time" no one will really ever be able to tell with naked eye ever the difference there.

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We should all just ignore him. He is just trolling....trying to get a reaction for everyone.

trolling only because you can't prove me wrong with the claims I am saying? try some more then or don't even post in this thread at all if you can't contribute any material at all and just sitting there with your thumb up the rear. I brought up extremely valid points and now no one really here can disprove/dispute them... what a fail, is the "alternative to iOS and iOS devices" section really this filled up with this much Android fanboys?
 

nickchallis92

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Don't fiddle with that setting then? Leave it on the most colour accurate mode. Problem solved.

You'll still get the brilliant blacks, you'll still a vibrant screen and looks printed and you'll still get the power savings with the darker content.

???
 

skratch77

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thanks Samsung, for screen modes that we have to constantly keep micro managing to the content we are playing/viewing/watching, thank you Samsung... for making us have to tap into through few menus, then change the screen mode to the content your viewing every single time...no wonder why nobody ever changes the screen mode on their Galaxy devices or that reviewers never even mention this part of the phone, no one wants to keep micro managing the screen modes! its good that they incoporated this feature but why a complete half ass implementation on for automatic screen modes only working for Samsung Applications only? I have owned 4 Galaxy devices, and not on one did i ever use the screen mode settings because it is cumbersom and annoying to have to keep micro mananging the dam screen modes to the content your viewing lol! its beyond annoying, and the fact that the automatic adapative screen mode only works for Samsungs applications sucks too, it doesn't work for any other applications that I use (you know the much better Chrome browser then the stock browser that comes with Galaxy devices, etc)

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pretty clear I was talking about input time response touch input time, maybe it wasn't 100% clear in what i said but that was what I was talking about, response time in both are extremely superb and the Note 4's "better response time" no one will really ever be able to tell with naked eye ever the difference there.

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trolling only because you can't prove me wrong with the claims I am saying? try some more then or don't even post in this thread at all if you can't contribute any material at all and just sitting there with your thumb up the rear.

We have proved you wrong in all of you bs claims about amoled screens.

I don't micro manage my screen I set it one time and love the way it looks in evey situation and I just tried adaptive and it's working with chrome...I bet you didn't know that the verizon galaxy s5 don't come with the samsung browser right? It only comes with chrome and they locked the stock browser out and adaptive works fine with it

I paid alot of money for my zt60 plasma TV it's one of the best if not the best tv you can buy right now.well could buy since they are all sold and out of production now but the crap you are saying about samsung having different modes is like my tv not letting me adjust my settings to my likings.

Some days I want thx mode video coming direct off the Blu Ray the way the director wanted it other days I'll set it to vivid for more pop depending on what we are watching like say something that has unreal blown out colors like avatar.

Most time my tv is running my custom settings that were calibrated with calman software and for 80% of the time it's on those settings but in your eyes they should only sell the tv setup one way and not allow people to adjust to there likings.
 

nickchallis92

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You've also got to remember 99% of people aren't aware of how colour accurate the Note 4 is. 99% of people are not aware you change the screen settings. 92% won't be aware of the amazing screen resolution.
 

Bahroo

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We have proved you wrong in all of you bs claims about amoled screens.

I don't micro manage my screen I set it one time and love the way it looks in evey situation and I just tried adaptive and it's working with chrome...I bet you didn't know that the verizon galaxy s5 don't come with the samsung browser right? It only comes with chrome and they locked the stock browser out and adaptive works fine with it

I paid alot of money for my zt60 plasma TV it's one of the best if not the best tv you can buy right now.well could buy since they are all sold and out of production now but the crap you are saying about samsung having different modes is like my tv not letting me adjust my settings to my likings.

Some days I want thx mode video coming direct off the Blu Ray the way the director wanted it other days I'll set it to vivid for more pop depending on what we are watching like say something that has unreal blown out colors like avatar.

Most time my tv is running my custom settings that were calibrated with calman software and for 80% of the time it's on those settings but in your eyes they should only sell the tv setup one way and not allow people to adjust to there likings.

who has proved me wrong? no one has shot down my very valid points and claims so far yet, they still stand, and OLED's do matter of fact all suffer from screen burn in isuses 6 months-1 year after of owning the device, it is guranteed you will minimum have status bar screen burn in after 6 months to a year, and that is permanent.

there is a difference between your TV and your smartphone display, on TV Your always watching a moving picture/motion/video content, nothing else, while on your smartphone it ranges from web browsing, to videos, to photos, to games, to etc, and Samsung's adaptive display mode really only works for core Samsung applications and nothing else, its a shame, (oh they added Chrome browser support for adapative display? how nice...what about the countless other applications the smartphone has and that it can get from the Play Store too?) it just sucks it only works for a limited amount of applications and that is where the annoying/cumbersome part comes in, that you have to change the screen mode settings akin to the content your viewing and whether you want the screen to pop more with more vibrant colors or go for absolute true color accuracy...just such a headache honestly.
 

jamezr

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We have proved you wrong in all of you bs claims about amoled screens.

All of us have proven him wrong with credible sources.

He states his opinion and POV as fact with nothing to back up.

He started this thread just because he got butt hurt about a perceived slight from another thread. It is even named almost exactly like the other thread
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1814599/

He is trolling and this whole thread is flamebait.

We all need to just ignore the troll and stop feeding it.

Or put him on an ignore list and he can argue all by himself.
Do not feed the troll...not reply to him.....
 

spinedoc77

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Didn't read too much of the thread, looks like a lot has been redacted by mods anyway. But as to the OP's claims about brightness the Note 4 can go up to 750nits, that's insanely bright, bright enough to read in full daylight with my convertible top down. What is the brightness of the iPhone 6? I think I read somewhere 524, but I'm not 100% sure.

Anyway I don't know what all the e-peen comparisons are about. I like my Note 4 screen because of it's brightness (and consequently also its darkness as it goes down to 5 nits, an important feature to me) and also the increased resolution allows me to see more stuff on screen with some apps like GPS and others. Both the ip6 and N4 have beautiful displays, but for MY uses the N4 is superior, someone else may find differently if they don't need the resolution or don't care about min/max brightness.

I've also never had screen burn in, I'm not saying it doesn't exist, just that I've never experienced it. Had a Note 1, 2 and 3 all used for about a year and never noticed even a hint of any kind of burn in.

Anything else is highly subjective and just personal preference. Why do we get into so many heated personal debates simply over one persons preference over anothers?
 
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Vegastouch

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if you actually read my post just before, you would actually see why i mentioned the eye scrolling and gestures on the phone, but you just seemed to gloss pass it and not even read it, the Note 3 gets 67 ms touch input time with all S FEATUREs off, gestures off, you know disabling alot of the features the phone comes with lmao....

and honestly I am not trolling why would I ever waste time trolling? I been on this website for years, been coming here for years (first forum lurker then i signed up) and i bring up very valid points, the color shift and white point shift is alot less on the Plus then it is on the Note 4 and that is a reason why i like the Plus display better, now it just seems like people are getting mad here because I prefer the Plus display over the note 4 display. LOL talk about the Android fanboys who stay lurking this part of the forum?

Nope, thats not it Bud. I personally dont care which one you like better. Its the way you are doing it with whacked reasons and ignoring posted facts you arent acknowleging and you keep repeating things over and over that are NOT really true....like your insistence that you WILL have burn in, in three months. Im still waiting 2.5 years later.
And,... your constant repeating OCD of how YOU have to change the screen settings everytime you look at something different.
99.5% of people wont do that and its an option if you want to do that. It wasnt meant to be an OCD thing for people. Just an option that iOS does not have.
 
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Zwhaler

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who has proved me wrong? no one has shot down my very valid points and claims so far yet, they still stand, and OLED's do matter of fact all suffer from screen burn in isuses 6 months-1 year after of owning the device, it is guranteed you will minimum have status bar screen burn in after 6 months to a year, and that is permanent.

I already proved you wrong because my Note II did not experience this. You claim "all suffer from screen burn issues", and they do not. I plan on posting some 4K videos shortly, you should check them out.
 

g0df4th3r

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Oh man this guy just won't give up. I wonder if he works for Fox News. Next thing you know he would try to prove that the 6+ 5.5" screen is bigger than the Note 4 5.7" screen.
 
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