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Prodo123

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1. An updated lineup of the Mac Pro supporting Thunderbolt, HD 79xx desktop graphics and Ivy Bridge processors.
2. Updated iMac with HD 7000M series mobile graphics and Ivy Bridge processors.
3. iPhone 5.
4. iWork '12.
5. iOS 6.

Updated MacBook Air with bigger blade SSD and Ivy Bridge mobile processors should be released alongside Mountain Lion.
 

0000757

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All but #3 are realistic. Apple is too smart to screw over it's customers by releasing the iPhone 5 that early, and too smart to announce it and give the competition a sneak peak at features coming to a phone 3 months later. The iPhone is pretty much on a Sep. release now.
 

Prodo123

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All but #3 are realistic. Apple is too smart to screw over it's customers by releasing the iPhone 5 that early, and too smart to announce it and give the competition a sneak peak at features coming to a phone 3 months later. The iPhone is pretty much on a Sep. release now.

I'm basing the iPhone 5 date off of previous leaks of June 17th. I'm also assuming that the iPhone 5 has been in development since the release of iPhone 4, causing Apple to release the 4S three months after WWDC '11 instead of the iPhone 5 at WWDC '11.

And it would not be a sneak peek, since you're assuming that it is guaranteed to start selling in September.
 

0000757

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I'm basing the iPhone 5 date off of previous leaks of June 17th. I'm also assuming that the iPhone 5 has been in development since the release of iPhone 4, causing Apple to release the 4S three months after WWDC '11 instead of the iPhone 5 at WWDC '11.

And it would not be a sneak peek, since you're assuming that it is guaranteed to start selling in September.

If it was released before September, then most people would be SOL and be screwed over by Apple.
 

ct2k7

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Having to support 3 iPhones is bad enough. Even if deprecating the 3GS happens, I'd still end up supporting the iPhone 4, 4S and 5.
 

DeepIn2U

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Having to support 3 iPhones is bad enough. Even if deprecating the 3GS happens, I'd still end up supporting the iPhone 4, 4S and 5.

Welcome to the Industry ;)

I honestly think the Mac Pro will have a redesign for the following reasons:
  • Big rack mounted servers are still king and with VM being implemented en masse that is the future in big enterprise/universities.
  • 2.5" hard-drives are getting very fast and cheaper, not to mention SSDs
  • A unique 4 bay HDD setup can still offer optimal cooling in a small size with great accessibility.
  • Twin GPU's for a BTO setup are the largest requirement for power.
  • Smaller power supplies can be used since CPU's peak power thresholds are getting lower.

I don't have a need for the Mac Pro, not to mention the funds but I love the huge slab of aluminum ever since the PowerMac G5.
 

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If it was released before September, then most people would be SOL and be screwed over by Apple.

Assuming most people upgraded to an iPhone 4S.

Can you even prove that most people would be screwed over by this? I for one would be not screwed over, and I have an iPhone 4.
 

0000757

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Assuming most people upgraded to an iPhone 4S.

Can you even prove that most people would be screwed over by this? I for one would be not screwed over, and I have an iPhone 4.

Most fans would. It's not a smart business practice at all anyways.
 

0000757

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Prove it.

A lot of the fanboys are probably going to go out and try to get an iPhone 4S. I'm not saying every Apple fans would (I'm an Apple fan and I don't even own an iPhone) but the more intense (FLOABW) apple fans are going to be screwed over by this.
 

0000757

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Anyone who buys before a refresh is going to be screwed over.
Isn't that common sense?

Like I said, I think you assume too much.

But if Apple releases the iPhone 5 this summer, they are screwing over their customers. They're not stupid enough to do that. Why else would they release the iPhone 4S in Sep. if they wern't moving to a Sep. release schedule? It makes no sense.
 

Prodo123

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But if Apple releases the iPhone 5 this summer, they are screwing over their customers. They're not stupid enough to do that. Why else would they release the iPhone 4S in Sep. if they wern't moving to a Sep. release schedule? It makes no sense.
Again, you're assuming that everyone is expecting the iPhone 5 to be released in September.
 

pmau

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Focus on Mac

I assume that after WWDC has been iOS centric for the last time, we'll see a Mac centered event, probably introducing:

* HiDPI display support, more device independent drawing.
* QuickTime AV API improvements (Airplay, Apple TV related)
* Notifications on the Mac (further unification with iOS)
* iCloud improvements (more documents in the cloud)
* iWorks (yes, I agree and forgot about it)
* Xcode improvements

Hardware:

* Retina Mac OS
* Apple TV 3 with HD Airplay mirroring
* No iPhone 5, no iOS Preview

I think iOS 5 has a few versions to go before iOS 6 will contain the next big thing.

When LTE and IPv6 becomes mainstream, iOS 6 will cover peer to peer iPhone networking, phonecalls without GSM and all kinds of multimedia services.

(Next year)
 

0000757

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Again, you're assuming that everyone is expecting the iPhone 5 to be released in September.

No, I'm saying that it doesn't make any sense at all to release the 4S in sep. just to turn around and release a whole new model less than a year before.

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I'd like to see something about iLife '12 at WWDC this year.
 
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Prodo123

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No, I'm saying that it doesn't make any sense at all to release the 4S in sep. just to turn around and release a whole new model less than a year before.

I already explained why it's sensible to do that. Look at my second post.
 

0000757

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I already explained why it's sensible to do that. Look at my second post.

No...that doesn't really make any sense at all.

If they started working on the iPhone 5 after the iPhone 4, why would they then work on an iPhone 4S and release it 3 months late? I don't follow.
 

Prodo123

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No...that doesn't really make any sense at all.

If they started working on the iPhone 5 after the iPhone 4, why would they then work on an iPhone 4S and release it 3 months late? I don't follow.

They couldn't finish it in time, duh.
That and Steve's worsening conditions.
 

0000757

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They couldn't finish it in time, duh.
That and Steve's worsening conditions.

So since they couldn't finish it in time, instead of finishing the iPhone 5 for a late release, they decided to release the iPhone 4S late then go back and release the iPhone 5 in the summer?

Bad Business Practice 101
 

Prodo123

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So since they couldn't finish it in time, instead of finishing the iPhone 5 for a late release, they decided to release the iPhone 4S late then go back and release the iPhone 5 in the summer?

Bad Business Practice 101

Strategically releasing a lesser product before Steve's passing is much better than bluntly releasing a better product after his passing.

Otherwise the product would get buried in all the mourning.
 

0000757

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Strategically releasing a lesser product before Steve's passing is much better than bluntly releasing a better product after his passing.

Otherwise the product would get buried in all the mourning.

Did the 4S get buried? No. Nothing got buried by Steve's death. In fact, that would have only boosted the iPhone 5.
 

Prodo123

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Did the 4S get buried? No. Nothing got buried by Steve's death. In fact, that would have only boosted the iPhone 5.

Because it was released before Steve's passing!
If it was released after it, then of course the 4S would have been buried.
Preceding events always belittle following events. The 4S reduced the significance of Steve's passing, whereas if it were released after his passing, Steve would have belittled the 4S.
 

0000757

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Because it was released before Steve's passing!
If it was released after it, then of course the 4S would have been buried.
Preceding events always belittle following events. The 4S reduced the significance of Steve's passing, whereas if it were released after his passing, Steve would have belittled the 4S.

So what does have to do with the release of the 5 instead of a 4S?
 
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