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vrDrew

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Coffee is rare - if not totally unique - in that it is a form of drug-taking that is almost totally without negative physical, psychological, legal, or moral effects.

Just to be clear: It is technically possible to die of a caffeine overdose. And I wouldn't recommend trying to sleep after downing a few double espressos.

But I really can't think of another form of drug-use where it is perfectly acceptable to ask your grandmother and mom to come over and partake with you.
 

chown33

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But I really can't think of another form of drug-use where it is perfectly acceptable to ask your grandmother and mom to come over and partake with you.

1. Tea.
2. Wine.

I realize tea contains caffeine, which is the same "drug" as coffee, but the form is different.

And at least for tea, I'd be OK asking my 10 year-old niece to also partake.
 

Kurwenal

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Jun 27, 2012
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It is a sad day when a coffee thread has to get moderated. :(

Indeed.

Life comes down to a few lessons. One is that the world is a big place, the human race is wonderful and varied, and my experience, my little corner of the world, my likes and fears and hopes, are not necessarily universal (there are a few universal hopes; coffee is not one of them).

I (mostly) drink ristrettos, pulled by my hands from coffee ground by the same hands, and roasted by me exactly 4-6 days earlier, using a roasting profile that I consider almost a trade secret. No more, no less. I (and many others) could with great ease look down at and be critical of anyone who spouts off about drinking mere espresso. (pun intended) But, a better approach is to be happy for someone who is happy with whatever he or she drinks. Coffee (Coffee, not coffee) helps us to choose encouragement, enjoyment, learning, peace, warmth, not critical, mindless, pointless, overbearing, undiscriminating captiousness.

If I have a choice between drinking a God Shot, at home, alone, or going to Starbucks with close friends and having a wonderful two hour conversation, well, pass the over-roasted junk, which I will happily order and drink in order to spend time with friends. Easy choice.

More recently, a friend suggested in another thread trying the Bialetti. I had a choice. I could use the suggestion as an opportunity to beat my chest and be critical so I could show off my coffee knowledge. Or, I could think "hmmm, hey there's something new to try." I am glad I took the second path. I won't drink the Bialetti every night for my 7 pm cup, but I will do so a night or two a week. It is a wonderful new experience and I am the richer for not letting snobbery get in the way of learning.

Enjoy what you drink. Let others do the same. Then, it's all good and we just go have another cup.

"I have come to the frightening conclusion that I am the decisive element. It is my personal approach that creates the climate. It is my daily mood that makes the weather. I possess tremendous power to make life miserable or joyous. I can be a tool of torture or an instrument of inspiration; I can humiliate or humor, hurt or heal. In all situations, it is my response that decides whether a crisis is escalated or de-escalated, and a person humanized or de-humanized.."

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
 

mobilehaathi

macrumors G3
Aug 19, 2008
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The Anthropocene
1. Tea.
2. Wine.

I realize tea contains caffeine, which is the same "drug" as coffee, but the form is different.

And at least for tea, I'd be OK asking my 10 year-old niece to also partake.

Tobacco too, although not for the young niece.

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Indeed.

Life comes down to a few lessons. One is that the world is a big place, the human race is wonderful and varied, and my experience, my little corner of the world, my likes and fears and hopes, are not necessarily universal (there are a few universal hopes; coffee is not one of them).

I (mostly) drink ristrettos, pulled by my hands from coffee ground by the same hands, and roasted by me exactly 4-6 days earlier, using a roasting profile that I consider almost a trade secret. No more, no less. I (and many others) could with great ease look down at and be critical of anyone who spouts off about drinking mere espresso. (pun intended) But, a better approach is to be happy for someone who is happy with whatever he or she drinks. Coffee (Coffee, not coffee) helps us to choose encouragement, enjoyment, learning, peace, warmth, not critical, mindless, pointless, overbearing, undiscriminating captiousness.

If I have a choice between drinking a God Shot, at home, alone, or going to Starbucks with close friends and having a wonderful two hour conversation, well, pass the over-roasted junk, which I will happily order and drink in order to spend time with friends. Easy choice.

More recently, a friend suggested in another thread trying the Bialetti. I had a choice. I could use the suggestion as an opportunity to beat my chest and be critical so I could show off my coffee knowledge. Or, I could think "hmmm, hey there's something new to try." I am glad I took the second path. I won't drink the Bialetti every night for my 7 pm cup, but I will do so a night or two a week. It is a wonderful new experience and I am the richer for not letting snobbery get in the way of learning.

Enjoy what you drink. Let others do the same. Then, it's all good and we just go have another cup.

"I have come to the frightening conclusion that I am the decisive element. It is my personal approach that creates the climate. It is my daily mood that makes the weather. I possess tremendous power to make life miserable or joyous. I can be a tool of torture or an instrument of inspiration; I can humiliate or humor, hurt or heal. In all situations, it is my response that decides whether a crisis is escalated or de-escalated, and a person humanized or de-humanized.."

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

Great thoughts, and wonderful Goethe quote. Cheers!
 

Scepticalscribe

macrumors Haswell
Jul 29, 2008
65,211
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In a coffee shop.
Indeed.

Life comes down to a few lessons. One is that the world is a big place, the human race is wonderful and varied, and my experience, my little corner of the world, my likes and fears and hopes, are not necessarily universal (there are a few universal hopes; coffee is not one of them).

I (mostly) drink ristrettos, pulled by my hands from coffee ground by the same hands, and roasted by me exactly 4-6 days earlier, using a roasting profile that I consider almost a trade secret. No more, no less. I (and many others) could with great ease look down at and be critical of anyone who spouts off about drinking mere espresso. (pun intended) But, a better approach is to be happy for someone who is happy with whatever he or she drinks. Coffee (Coffee, not coffee) helps us to choose encouragement, enjoyment, learning, peace, warmth, not critical, mindless, pointless, overbearing, undiscriminating captiousness.

If I have a choice between drinking a God Shot, at home, alone, or going to Starbucks with close friends and having a wonderful two hour conversation, well, pass the over-roasted junk, which I will happily order and drink in order to spend time with friends. Easy choice.

More recently, a friend suggested in another thread trying the Bialetti. I had a choice. I could use the suggestion as an opportunity to beat my chest and be critical so I could show off my coffee knowledge. Or, I could think "hmmm, hey there's something new to try." I am glad I took the second path. I won't drink the Bialetti every night for my 7 pm cup, but I will do so a night or two a week. It is a wonderful new experience and I am the richer for not letting snobbery get in the way of learning.

Enjoy what you drink. Let others do the same. Then, it's all good and we just go have another cup.

"I have come to the frightening conclusion that I am the decisive element. It is my personal approach that creates the climate. It is my daily mood that makes the weather. I possess tremendous power to make life miserable or joyous. I can be a tool of torture or an instrument of inspiration; I can humiliate or humor, hurt or heal. In all situations, it is my response that decides whether a crisis is escalated or de-escalated, and a person humanized or de-humanized.."

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

Ah, just beautiful, like a really good cup of smooth coffee. An absolute pleasure to read, and thank you very much for posting it......
 

Shrink

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Indeed.

Life comes down to a few lessons. One is that the world is a big place, the human race is wonderful and varied, and my experience, my little corner of the world, my likes and fears and hopes, are not necessarily universal (there are a few universal hopes; coffee is not one of them).

I (mostly) drink ristrettos, pulled by my hands from coffee ground by the same hands, and roasted by me exactly 4-6 days earlier, using a roasting profile that I consider almost a trade secret. No more, no less. I (and many others) could with great ease look down at and be critical of anyone who spouts off about drinking mere espresso. (pun intended) But, a better approach is to be happy for someone who is happy with whatever he or she drinks. Coffee (Coffee, not coffee) helps us to choose encouragement, enjoyment, learning, peace, warmth, not critical, mindless, pointless, overbearing, undiscriminating captiousness.

If I have a choice between drinking a God Shot, at home, alone, or going to Starbucks with close friends and having a wonderful two hour conversation, well, pass the over-roasted junk, which I will happily order and drink in order to spend time with friends. Easy choice.

More recently, a friend suggested in another thread trying the Bialetti. I had a choice. I could use the suggestion as an opportunity to beat my chest and be critical so I could show off my coffee knowledge. Or, I could think "hmmm, hey there's something new to try." I am glad I took the second path. I won't drink the Bialetti every night for my 7 pm cup, but I will do so a night or two a week. It is a wonderful new experience and I am the richer for not letting snobbery get in the way of learning.

Enjoy what you drink. Let others do the same. Then, it's all good and we just go have another cup.

"I have come to the frightening conclusion that I am the decisive element. It is my personal approach that creates the climate. It is my daily mood that makes the weather. I possess tremendous power to make life miserable or joyous. I can be a tool of torture or an instrument of inspiration; I can humiliate or humor, hurt or heal. In all situations, it is my response that decides whether a crisis is escalated or de-escalated, and a person humanized or de-humanized.."

Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe

Wonderful post!

The coffee enthusiasts with whom I enjoy exchanging ideas, information, and and our shared appreciation of various kinds of coffee have never felt the need to be judgmental about what kind of coffee one drinks, how it is prepared, or anything other than the shared appreciation of the brew.

It has become a mantra, or perhaps cliché, that if you like it, then that's fine. Cliché though it may be...I still feel that it expresses my attitude toward our discussions of coffee.

Now...about Starbucks...;)
 

rhett7660

macrumors G5
Jan 9, 2008
14,382
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Sunny, Southern California
Not I that would really care, but I'm sure some of those coffee snobs out there are probably making a big fuss over it.

You know, the one's who are always talking about how coffee has to be fresh, and all the espresso nit picking stuff.

For me, just a jar of cheap supermarket instant coffee...and I'm a happy man.

So, I'm opening this thread for all those coffee fussbudgets who love to talk about coffee.

:rolleyes: :p :D



Please don't hurt me for mentioning "instant"!


Ha.......... Nice little write up. I always knew you like "instant" coffee. All this talk of ubber expensive expresso machines and grinders. All a lie I till you... LIE! You are a folgers true and true! :D
 

Shrink

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Ha.......... Nice little write up. I always knew you like "instant" coffee. All this talk of ubber expensive expresso machines and grinders. All a lie I till you... LIE! You are a folgers true and true! :D

Sssshhhh!

Now it's out...I was hoping nobody would notice!:eek:

;)
 

vrDrew

macrumors 65816
Jan 31, 2010
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I see that the third season of Jerry Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee just began (with guest Louis C.K.)

If, like me, you have an interest in either cars or coffee, its a show well worth the 10-20 minutes in each episode. Coffee lovers especially will enjoy the visuals of perfectly, and professionally, poured and pulled cups. Its about as close to "coffee porn" as you could get, although, in all fairness, they don't spend a lot of time actually talking about the coffee.
 

S.B.G

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Sep 8, 2010
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I see that the third season of Jerry Seinfeld's Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee just began (with guest Louis C.K.)

If, like me, you have an interest in either cars or coffee, its a show well worth the 10-20 minutes in each episode. Coffee lovers especially will enjoy the visuals of perfectly, and professionally, poured and pulled cups. Its about as close to "coffee porn" as you could get, although, in all fairness, they don't spend a lot of time actually talking about the coffee.

I love that series and I love Seinfeld! I watched the Louis C.K. episode the other day and laughed my butt off about the boat in the mud story.
 

Shrink

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I double that Amen...and raise you a new espresso machine to use those 365 days!

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Obi Wan Kenobi

macrumors 6502a
Mar 9, 2011
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If variety is the spice of life, coffee is the bean

An espresso 1st thing for an early start, a boost or before a run. (Nespresso makes it so easy).

Freshly ground (from the bean) filter coffee for the rest of the day.
 
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