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Navigon MobileNavigator Europe has arrived

ct2000 said:
mapping is also very out of date , it doesn't even have my home address in the UK , and the road was built nine years ago !!!!

I would advice you to check http://www.navigon.com/site/uk/en/service_support/mapreporting to check address before you spend a small fortune on this !
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To be fair you'll find different inaccuracies in all satnav products. Even in central London the latest TomTom map I use still sees roundabouts that were removed years ago, and in deepest Sussex is convinced there's a handy turning off the A27 where there never has been (and that road is very very old).

You are unlikely to find a product that is wholly accurate, just differently inaccurate.
 
lovelost said:
To be fair you'll find different inaccuracies in all satnav products. Even in central London the latest TomTom map I use still sees roundabouts that were removed years ago, and in deepest Sussex is convinced there's a handy turning off the A27 where there never has been (and that road is very very old).

You are unlikely to find a product that is wholly accurate, just differently inaccurate.
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You would be hard pushed to find one as inaccurate as the smartnav system installed on my last company car. There was one road it always told me to turn off down a single track lane and on a 3 mile detour through industrial estates eventually bringing me back out on the same original road just a little further up! It seemed to have a preference for single tracked roads! One time it also got stuck in a loop telling me to come off M6 motorway only to go back in opposite direction then to come off and go back again. I trusted it fir a couple of times like this then gave up and got my maps out (also went home and bought a tomtom!)
 
I'd almost considering buying this and trying it. I have a TomTom 910 but obviously it's a few years out of date now and wanted some new maps + features + maybe trying something other than TomTom.

However the lack of full UK postcodes put me right off. Like someone above was saying, even if you don't have the full address a postcode will get you on the right road and normally in roughly the right section of that road if it's long.

Like you say you could look it up in Google Maps but it still wouldn't solve the problem that not all roads have a road name. Certainly not in Norfolk there is plenty of villages in the middle of no where and the address will be the house name followed by the village name and the postcode. So it would be completely impossible to navigate to a road which has no road name on a system like this. You'd be able to find the village and then just have to drive around randomly until you came across the house. Admittedly these are never large places but it's still a pain.

I'm sure of course this problem won't be a problem for most of you, just would be for me and my work sometimes.
 
hi two of the things that appealed to me about navigon aint gonna be on the iphone app for tomtom cos I asked:

Dear Mr Chimpboy74

Thank you for contacting TomTom Customer Care
The reference number for your query is .

The iPhone version of Tomtom wont have Advanced lane guidance or text to speech but will have IR Routes.

You can find details on the following link ;

http://iphone.tomtom.com/

More information will be made available closer to the products release later in the year,

With Kind Regards

Chris

The TomTom Customer Care Team


Not sure what IR routes are as yet.
 
Only if tomtom had a release date- im so 50/50 atm if i should got with navigon or wait for tomtom.

with the lack of speed cameras, POI's etc the navigon is off putting.

I've used tomtom devices all my life and i'm really use to them+all the free addons and updates the tomtom is defo the right one to go with. :confused:
 
chimpboy74 said:
hi two of the things that appealed to me about navigon aint gonna be on the iphone app for tomtom cos I asked:

Dear Mr Chimpboy74

Thank you for contacting TomTom Customer Care
The reference number for your query is .

The iPhone version of Tomtom wont have Advanced lane guidance or text to speech but will have IR Routes.

You can find details on the following link ;

http://iphone.tomtom.com/

More information will be made available closer to the products release later in the year,

With Kind Regards

Chris

The TomTom Customer Care Team


Not sure what IR routes are as yet.
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later in the year!? - that sounds like a LONG way off already...
 
design flawed

I've been reading tests and seen videos usw. After a view days I have to say:

This application sometimes looks as bad as last century HTML sites!

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  • 70% of screen space wasted
  • the color scheme, jesus, orange type with white stroke?
  • pin even hides the text...


but now the worst:
6901_1.jpg

What a crime to humankind this view is!
  • all kinds of icons and text overlap
  • the same crazy coloring, orange type + white stroke, even smaller now
  • instead of widening the roads.... well
why not use the space in the top bar for instance to have so selective buttons for different point-of-interest types, at least something to remove the clutter. Floating rules for these icons are apparently non-existent.


I mean its standard material (the maps), so the only thing to blame is the GUI and the map-renderer. I find this hardly usable and arguably ugly.
I'm kind of surprised that nobody is complaining about this, especially in a mac forum with people used to ergonomic GUIs!
 
randfee2 said:
What a crime to humankind this view is!
  • all kinds of icons and text overlap
  • the same crazy coloring, orange type + white stroke, even smaller now
  • instead of widening the roads.... well
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I kind of wish they'd just gone all the way and used Comic Sans as the primary font...
 
randfee2 said:
I've been reading tests and seen videos usw. After a view days I have to say:

This application sometimes looks as bad as last century HTML sites!
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Have you actually USED the app or are you just basing your opinion on these crappy pics??

I've been using it for the last 2 days and although it is not 100% perfect it is an extremly good app. The points you make against it are completely inaccurate.

In no way does it waste 70% of the screen. The pic you showed is the screen shown before you start the map. Its like a waitin screen before you begin the turn by turn. Which i must say is excellent.

And in regards your other complaint about the clutter. This is only one view, there are other ways of viewing the map that are far less cluttered.

Just my opinion from using it.
 
skidmcmarx,

totally right, of course thats not the whole truth (look down), but I wanted to show how cluttered and hard to read it can get. The screen with the minimap, wasting half the screen is no waiting screen, its a confirmation for your target. Why not make it fullscreen, readable etc.?!? I find it a very valid question.
The second one is just awful though. There is no way to quickly activate/deactivate certain item-groups to actually see through the mess of POIs... as said, this could easily be done but apparently little effort went into the GUI (at least in this part!).

Besides... the font color and white stroke is always like that, which I find ridiculously distasteful and quite hard to read!
The navigating abilities of the software have nothing to do with the ergonomics of it of course!

And YES, there is this view i.e., which is simply and easy to grasp, its good, no argument there. But here for instance you can't overlay streetnames PLUS you can't zoom in here.
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Navigon have now added a British Isles only version to the AppStore [iTunes Link] for £37.99 (again this is an introductory price - goes up to £59.99 / 69.99€ after June 30th). A much less eye-watering 215MB rather than the 1.6GB of the full Europe version. It contains maps for UK, Northern Ireland, Isle of Man and Republic of Ireland - otherwise seems to be just the same as the full Europe version.

At this price I've given it a punt as it is sounding like TomTom is considerably far off release - I'll post back with my thoughts once I've had a bit of a go with it.
 
Hi,

Does anyone know if the Navigon are releasing a cradle to go with the app, i'd find it very hard to use the sat nav when it isnt attached to the windscreen.....

Tom tom's cradle looks really good and the app seems sound, but when will it be released!

is it all going a bit far... i have a garmin nuvi in my car and that does a perfect job, am i just thinking that have a sat nav on the iphone is a bit of a novelty... i mean it doesnt everything but make me a bacon sandwhich!!
 
cosmaboy said:
Hi,

Does anyone know if the Navigon are releasing a cradle to go with the app, i'd find it very hard to use the sat nav when it isnt attached to the windscreen.....
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I never got on with the cradles that attach to the windscreen. 3 years ago when I got my current car I invested in a Brodit Pro Clip. It attaches to the dashboard using the gaps between the panels to hold it in place. I used a passive cradle with my MDA Vario then got an active cradle when I got my Vario III with GPS. I used that with CoPilot Live 7 for the last 18 months. I've been so impressed with the Brodit holders that I got one for my 3GS. It screws onto the Pro Clip and holds the phone in place perfectly.
 
ajnicho said:
Anyone in the UK wanting to buy this, it might be worth going to Argos and getting the £30 Argos vouchers for £20 x 2. That way it will only cost you £40 and you will still have £5 left over.
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Apologies if this is explained elsewhere but how does this offer work? When I look on the Argos website I can't find a £30 voucher, only £50, £25 and £15 all priced at face value.
 
Moleshome said:
Apologies if this is explained elsewhere but how does this offer work? When I look on the Argos website I can't find a £30 voucher, only £50, £25 and £15 all priced at face value.
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This offer finished 22nd June. It was buy 2 x £15 vouchers for £20, a very nice saving. People were buying (myself included) 4 x £15 cards for £40 so you could buy the £54.99 version and still have £5 left out of the £40.
 
uknutz said:
This offer finished 22nd June. It was buy 2 x £15 vouchers for £20, a very nice saving. People were buying (myself included) 4 x £15 cards for £40 so you could buy the £54.99 version and still have £5 left out of the £40.
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It was also only available in store. I also got 4 x £15 vouchers but I went for the £37.99 version of Navigon so still have a fair amount left - I also went via quidco for 8% cashback and some free iTunes songs, so it has effectively cost me a touch over £22 with some free songs bundled in.
 
Can you also use the App as a map viewer? Or do you have to select a route before you can see departure and destination?
 
I just purchased the Navigon Europe app & I'm having some issues. I keep getting "No GPS signal at the moment"

Anyone else have this problem or know of a fix?
 
Im having some trouble getting sound. When using demo mode it works fine, but no sound at all when navigating. I've tried restart etc. but still nothing. Am i the only one with the problem?
 
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