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New Apple tv, no 1080p mode

Inopia-Vi said:
I just bought the new apple tv for its 1080p capacity. As soon as I got it, I notice that in the HDMI output, there is no 1080p option.

What I did:

-Checked for a update
-My tv support 1080p@60hz Model: Bravia KDL-40M4000
-My cable can output 10080p fine on xbox 360 and blu-ray
-It is the new apple TV according to its model #: MD199LL/A

Anything I could do to make 1080p happens? :(
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http://www.hdtvreview.com/Sony-KDL-40M4000-hdtv.html

You don't have a 1080p set - its native 1366x768 (720p). When you plug the ATV into the TV it does a 'handshake' in which the TV will tell the ATV what its optimum resolutions are.

Your set can take a 1080p signal, and it's possible the Xbox/Blu-ray player allow the 1080p output but its seems that the ATV is defaulting to 720p because that is the closest to the native resolution of your set.

I can understand that downscaling 1920x1080p to 1366x768p should look slightly better than 1280x720p upscaling to 1366x768p, but the difference should be negligible at a normal viewing distance.

In other words, regardless of the signal you give it, you won't ever see a 1080p picture from this set. If the ATV menu allows you to select 768p (the original ATV1 would), that will give you the best picture because the ATV will scale the picture perfectly for your set.
 
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brucewayne said:
http://www.hdtvreview.com/Sony-KDL-40M4000-hdtv.html

You don't have a 1080p set - its native 1366x768 (720p).
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Wow, thanks you very much for the detailed answer. For over 2 years I was conviced that my television was equiped with a 1080p panel, as it was sold.

I was shocked but in the end, it does make sense. I guess, I will be in the market for a new television...:( Seems odd that it did accept 1080p signals and was heavily marketed with 1080p true HD. Oh well.....
 
brucewayne said:
http://www.hdtvreview.com/Sony-KDL-40M4000-hdtv.html

You don't have a 1080p set - its native 1366x768 (720p). When you plug the ATV into the TV it does a 'handshake' in which the TV will tell the ATV what its optimum resolutions are.

Your set can take a 1080p signal, and it's possible the Xbox/Blu-ray player allow the 1080p output but its seems that the ATV is defaulting to 720p because that is the closest to the native resolution of your set.

I can understand that downscaling 1920x1080p to 1366x768p should look slightly better than 1280x720p upscaling to 1366x768p, but the difference should be negligible at a normal viewing distance.

In other words, regardless of the signal you give it, you won't ever see a 1080p picture from this set. If the ATV menu allows you to select 768p (the original ATV1 would), that will give you the best picture because the ATV will scale the picture perfectly for your set.
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That URL says that it is a 1080p - check the display capability line:
480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

Looks like Sony marketing doesn't know what Sony Engineering is doing.
 
Inopia-Vi said:
Wow, thanks you very much for the detailed answer. For over 2 years I was conviced that my television was equiped with a 1080p panel, as it was sold.

I was shocked but in the end, it does make sense. I guess, I will be in the market for a new television...:( Seems odd that it did accept 1080p signals and was heavily marketed with 1080p true HD. Oh well.....
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how did you not know what type of tv you bought?
 
oh that looks good I'm going to buy it. not very smart. same with trusting a salesman.
research everything before you buy it. especially electronics. it takes me months to decide on a tv. i don't want to buy shi*.
 
x-evil-x said:
how did you not know what type of tv you bought?
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x-evil-x said:
oh that looks good I'm going to buy it. not very smart. same with trusting a salesman. research everything before you buy it. especially electronics. it takes me months to decide on a tv. i don't want to buy shi*.
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Let's be fair... Since you've clearly researched the tv you're watching how about answering this question (honestly). :

Q: What audio formats does your TV SET support and to what extent (full,pass thru, etc).

Dolby Sound?
Dolby Digital?
Dolby Digital Plus?
Dolby TrueHD?
DTS HD?
DTS HD Master Audio?

I'm gonna bet you can't tell me without grabbing the manual and/or googling it. And given audio pretty much goes hand in hand with video it's something you should pay attention to no?
 
DaveGee said:
Let's be fair... Since you've clearly researched the tv you're watching how about answering this question (honestly). :

Q: What audio formats does your TV SET support and to what extent (full,pass thru, etc).

Dolby Sound?
Dolby Digital?
Dolby Digital Plus?
Dolby TrueHD?
DTS HD?
DTS HD Master Audio?

I'm gonna bet you can't tell me without grabbing the manual and/or googling it. And given audio pretty much goes hand in hand with video it's something you should pay attention to no?
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well obviously you don't know me. I've never used tv speakers so i could care less about the sound coming from them or what they support. i have a panasonic gt30 tv in my bedroom and a xbr4 tv in my living room. both with full surround sound... So what you're really asking what does my RECEIVER support? who really uses tv speakers anymore unless you can't afford surround sound...? Also have not seen many people use optical out on their tv when people buy receivers to run their speakers and usually people only one have hdmi going from their tv's to their receivers for everything they need....
 
If the box on your ATV says 1080p then it is. Go to the content pages on your ATV, you will see that (Here in the UK anyway) there are only 7 movies in full 1080p and a handful of YV shows.

Your ATV will play in full 1080 when you have content that is recorded that way.
 
ssgbryan said:
That URL says that it is a 1080p - check the display capability line:
480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p

Looks like Sony marketing doesn't know what Sony Engineering is doing.
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That native resolution is 1366x768, that is all that matters.

It's slightly ambiguous, but the 'display capability' means the TV will be able to accept all those resolutions from a source, then scale them to the panels native resolution.
 
x-evil-x said:
When u buy a tv you don't research the model? That's just crazy to me.
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In defense of the OP, I can easily see how someone could be misled. We bought a similar Sony a few years back (32" 720p) that had huge 1080p stickers on it with 'input' in small lettering underneath. You get that set home, hookup your xbox and '1080p' comes up on the screen (the input signal). Not many people go to the specification page of the manual to read that the panel itself is actually 1366x768.

The reverse happened to me. In 2005 I purchased one of the first full HD rear projection sets (a Sony SXRD 60XBR1). This is an native 1080p (1920x1080p panels) set, but the catch was it was released before there were many 1080p sources and only supported 480i/480p/720p/1080i input. A friend had a first gen Samsung 1080p DLP which had a native 960x1080p chip, and using a technique called 'wobulation' created a 1920x1080p picture. Being an early adopter occasionally means that you will accept specifications that aren't optimum. In the end, both sets looked great even though they each had a technical quirk.

Sometimes you have to look past the specs and enjoy the set you have. 5-10 years from now we will be looking at our OLED 4K sets wondering how we could have ever watched 1080p.
 
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i understand labels at some stores might be misplaced or taking some salesman words for it is what most people do But you should research what you are buying on your own before you make the decision is all I'm saying. In the future i think the op will actually read what he is buying from a trusted source. Nobody should trust a salesman...
 
Well, I did not buy the TV in person, it was given to me by a relative. I was using 1080p sources and assumed the panel was 1080p. I usualy reasearch very well before buying. Still odd that the tv was covered by "True 1080p".:rolleyes:

Howerved, I enjoyed my TV, I'm happy with it. Im just surprised by the specs..
 
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MarkG21 said:
Dumb question, but are you sure you bought the ATV3?

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Should be much more than that but seeing that your from India, maybe its limited to those options???
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That complicates things. If he tries to call tech support he will just get someone in the US he can't understand. :D
 
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