New Canon 1000D DSLR launched

[Abstract]

The biggest downside of the new 1000D to me is the focusing system. It sounds basically like what was used in the 300D and 350D - which is okay, but far from great.

I think most of that has to do with the number of cross-type AF points there are. I think the 400D, 450D, and (probably) the 1000D likely have a single cross-type AF point at the centre, while the rest aren't. Anyway, I don't know whether a 450D will have significantly better focusing than a 1000D. If you want good focusing, you'd have to get a 40D, I think.

 

[Grimace]

You can't base the price on the Canon 5D. Nikon will probably give it some additional features, but charge ~ $3000. That's the price point Thom Hogan is expecting, anyway.

As I mentioned in that same post, "All that said, if the "new" 5D is closer to $3000, a FF D10 would have some wiggle room to differentiate itself from the D300 and D3."

I still don't see it happening, but Nikon is going for Canon's jugular right now!

 

[ChrisA]

No way.

The only thing there worth paying for is the spot metering.

With film I'd agree. I even own a hand held Pentax spot meter. But with digital I get the same results by looking at the histogram display. I'd use the spot meter to look at the range of values in a scene and to choose an exposure that capured the parts of the scene I want. But now the histogram serves that purpose. I take a test exposure and then adjust it based on the graphic display

 

[Hmac]

I really don't think we will see a full frame camera from Nikon like a D10. The way that Canon's lineup is positioned, a 5D makes sense. Nikon fits in alternating grooves and the D80, D300, D3, (D3X) doesn't leave a very good spot for a full frame variant. Would it be nice? Sure. I just don't think it is likely given the D300 price point.

Time will tell. For the most part, among the faithful over at DPR (including Thom Hogan) and most of the other Nikon sites, a full-frame camera on a D300-type body (Thom is guessing it will be called D10), IOW a 5D competitor, is a foregone conclusion. I'm inclined to agree that it's just a matter of time, and my guess would be some time shortly after the 5D MkII is announced.

 

[66217]

As I mentioned in that same post, "All that said, if the "new" 5D is closer to $3000, a FF D10 would have some wiggle room to differentiate itself from the D300 and D3."

I still don't see it happening, but Nikon is going for Canon's jugular right now!

My thinking of what Nikon is going to do is the following (in order):

1. Update the D80. Something tells me the D90(?) would be a very nice update.
2. Update or make an improved D3 and obviously keep the present D3.
3. Keep the D300 as it is for now, and release a new FF camera (D10?).
4. Update the D60 and make it a little bit better (considering the D80 replacement would still be much better).
5. Introduce a new low-end dSLR to meet the requirements of the ocasional shooter that has no interest at the moment of buying expensive equipment. Could be similar to the 1000D or even cheaper, I think the most probable being the latter.

This would leave Nikon with a good product line:
New Lower-End Camera ($400) < D60 Replacement ($800) < D90 ($1300-1400) < D300 ($1800) < D10 ($2500-3000) < D3 ($5000) < D3x ($8000).

The D3x I really put it there for what I have read in other posts. But really have no idea what extra things it would have to make it soo expensive. Any ideas?

Other question: What is Nikon going to do with new camera names? The D60 replacement can't be D70, would they change the D to F? Or what is what they normally do?

 

[Westside guy]

Other question: What is Nikon going to do with new camera names? The D60 replacement can't be D70, would they change the D to F? Or what is what they normally do?

Can't be F - that's how they denote their film cameras. The numbering is very similar (F100, F5, F6...).

 

[Grimace]

This would leave Nikon with a good product line:
New Lower-End Camera ($400) < D60 Replacement ($800) < D90 ($1300-1400) < D300 ($1800) < D10 ($2500-3000) < D3 ($5000) < D3x ($8000).

The D3x I really put it there for what I have read in other posts. But really have no idea what extra things it would have to make it soo expensive. Any ideas?

Other question: What is Nikon going to do with new camera names? The D60 replacement can't be D70, would they change the D to F? Or what is what they normally do?

A 25MP sensor would make it that expensive.

D stands for digital so it will likely stay in all of the Canon and Nikon branding.

A lot of the cameras you mention are pretty new, by DSLR standards. The update cycles are less frequent the higher up the food chain you go.

 

[66217]

Can't be F - that's how they denote their film cameras. The numbering is very similar (F100, F5, F6...).

Yep, I forgot about that.

A 25MP sensor would make it that expensive.

D stands for digital so it will likely stay in all of the Canon and Nikon branding.

A lot of the cameras you mention are pretty new, by DSLR standards. The update cycles are less frequent the higher up the food chain you go.

Believe it or not I haven't thought about what the D meant on the name of the cameras. But it still bugs me how they are going to keep the updates coming. The names are bound to become a real mess.

I agree with you, it would take many years to make the changes. But the D80 is in time to be updated. I guess many D40/D40x users, when upgrading, would have a difficult time right now. You have the D300, which is expensive, and the D80 which doesn't offers much over the D40 to justify an upgrade.

If they come out with a nice D90, I would seriously consider upgrading from my D40x faster. I sometimes see the the D300 as way too much for me and find it hard to justify spending so much money on it.

 

[Hmac]

Yep, I forgot about that.



Believe it or not I haven't thought about what the D meant on the name of the cameras. But it still bugs me how they are going to keep the updates coming. The names are bound to become a real mess.

I agree with you, it would take many years to make the changes. But the D80 is in time to be updated. I guess many D40/D40x users, when upgrading, would have a difficult time right now. You have the D300, which is expensive, and the D80 which doesn't offers much over the D40 to justify an upgrade.

If they come out with a nice D90, I would seriously consider upgrading from my D40x faster. I sometimes see the the D300 as way too much for me and find it hard to justify spending so much money on it.

My guess would be that the D60 will become the new D40X (entry level). The D80 will be replaced by the D90. Then D300, then D10 (full frame), then D3 basically unchanged, then D3X which will be the 24 mp full-frame variant of the D3. I don't know about pricing, but I would think that the D3X will be priced based on the 1Ds MkIII. The A900 might put some downward pressure on that camera, as has the D3, so 1Ds mkIII and D3X somewhere in the $6000-$7000 range.

 

[AlaskaMoose]

Rumors to keep you guessing?
More Canon cameras to be released (several between the 40D and the next models):
http://www.canonrumors.com/comments.php?y=08&m=06&entry=entry080613-150853

 

[seenew]

where the heck is the new 5D? (not that I care since I just got the current one )

 

[Grimace]

Rumors to keep you guessing?
More Canon cameras to be released (several between the 40D and the next models):
http://www.canonrumors.com/comments.php?y=08&m=06&entry=entry080613-150853

That rumor is garbage for many reasons. In case they weren't paying attention, Canon's models get better the closer the model number gets to 1.

1D, 5D, 40D, 450D, etc.

A 6D better than 3D? It throws the whole thing off. And, you aren't going to see a 20MP $3000 camera body right now when the 1Ds Mark III is 21MP for $8000.

 

[AlaskaMoose]

where the heck is the new 5D? (not that I care since I just got the current one )

Congratulations on your new 5D. I was thinking of buying a 5D, but settled for the 40D because of the lenses I already have made it a better deal for me. I would have had to buy lenses to match the FF of the 5D.

 

[AlaskaMoose]

That rumor is garbage for many reasons. In case they weren't paying attention, Canon's models get better the closer the model number gets to 1.

1D, 5D, 40D, 450D, etc.

A 6D better than 3D? It throws the whole thing off. And, you aren't going to see a 20MP $3000 camera body right now when the 1Ds Mark III is 21MP for $8000.

Rumors are rumors Lets wait a little and see what happens.