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My holy grail size for 5K 16:9 is in the 29-30" range, although I'd take a 32" too.

27" 5K = 218 ppi, Retina at 15.80"
29" 5K = 203 ppi, Retina at 16.97"
30" 5K = 196 ppi, Retina at 17.56"
32" 5K = 184 ppi, Retina at 18.73"

Ergonomic guidelines recommend a minimum 20" seating distance for a desktop monitor, so all of these meet that criteria for Retina.


If we are on the topic of holy grail give me 4:3 aspect ratio or at the very least 16:10 like Macbook Pros. I remember one day walking into a Microsoft store and playing around with the Surface Studio(28" 192PPI 4:3) and it blew the 27" 5K iMac away yet was only a 1" larger. The iMac felt so cramped using it compared to that glorious IMAX aspect ratio in a monitor. Holy grail for me would be the 32" Apple XDR at 4:3.

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If we are on the topic of holy grail give me 4:3 aspect ratio or at the very least 16:10 like Macbook Pros. I remember one day walking into a Microsoft store and playing around with the Surface Studio(28" 192PPI 4:3) and it blew the 27" 5K iMac away yet was only a 1" larger. The iMac felt so cramped using it compared to that glorious IMAX aspect ratio in a monitor. Holy grail for me would be the 32" Apple XDR at 4:3.

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I'm using a 3:2 4K+ 28.2" monitor. It's 3840x2560, which I run at 2304x1536. Most Apple users would probably run it at 2560x1707 though, which would correspond to 2560x1440 on a 16:9 27" monitor.
 
I'm using a 3:2 4K+ 28.2" monitor. It's 3840x2560, which I run at 2304x1536. Most Apple users would probably run it at 2560x1707 though, which would correspond to 2560x1440 on a 16:9 27" monitor.


Oh is that the Huawei monitor they used to make. I forgot about that one... shame that is discontinued.
 
Surface Studio(28" 192PPI 4:3)

Did any third parties ever make standalone monitors with that panel?

I would LOVE a 4:3 28" (or bigger, but even 28" is enough at this aspect ratio)

I really dislike the move to wider and shorter screens
 
No Mac keyboard control of brightness, no purchase. Without DDC/CI I don't care if they drop it to $199.

Meanwhile, Studio Display has the fundamental design flaw of having the power supply built into the display where it requires fans when hooked up to a fanless MacBook Air. No thank you.
 
No Mac keyboard control of brightness, no purchase.

All good my guy - Software has you covered!


This is why "computers" (instead of appliances like iPad/iPhone) are so great!
 
Did any third parties ever make standalone monitors with that panel?

I would LOVE a 4:3 28" (or bigger, but even 28" is enough at this aspect ratio)

I really dislike the move to wider and shorter screens


I am almost positive there was never a standalone.

Yeah that display ratio is so damn good. Monitors followed the TVs and we're mostly stuck with the industry going that way. These aren't TVs so treating them as such is frustrating.

I wish Apple would think different and offer external monitors with sufficient vertical height and mimic their laptops. At 16:9 you basically need a 32" monitor for decent vertical height(even then a 16:10 or 4:3 would still give you some extra space at 32" which would be handy)
 
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All good my guy - Software has you covered!


This is why "computers" (instead of appliances like iPad/iPhone) are so great!
I just picked up this monitor as part of this sale. For anyone else who might happen across this, not only does the S9 not support the built in brightness controls of MacOS, it also doesn't support DDC, so apps like MonitorControl and BetterDisplay cannot control the hardware brightness of the display. I rarely/never changed the brightness on my old monitor, so it's not like I'll miss this feature, but it would have been nice to have DDC control, especially since changing the brightness using the Samsung UI is a real pain.

 
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I just picked up this monitor as part of this sale. For anyone else who might happen across this, not only does the S9 not support the built in brightness controls of MacOS, it also doesn't support DDC, so apps like MonitorControl and BetterDisplay cannot control the hardware brightness of the display. I rarely/never changed the brightness on my old monitor, so it's not like I'll miss this feature, but it would have been nice to have DDC control, especially since changing the brightness using the Samsung UI is a real pain.


oof
c'mon Samsung
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I'm sorry to hear that and thank you for sharing.
I did not realize that at all
 
oof
c'mon Samsung
:mad:

I'm sorry to hear that and thank you for sharing.
I did not realize that at all
Yeah, when I saw your post, even before I got the S9, it led me down a path to investigate these apps. Even my ancient HP 22BW monitor had DDC support, but apparently the HDMI out on Apple Silicon Macs don't properly support DDC, so MonitorControl didn't work. Somehow, BetterDisplay worked around the issue, and it could control the hardware brightness of my HP... Kinda wish I'd know that DDC was a thing years ago. I, like you, assumed anything brand new would support DDC... but Samsung gotta pull consumer unfriendly stunts like Apple tends to do. There are apparently other Samsung monitors that don't support DDC on DisplayPort or USB-C. You'd think for a monitor specifically designed to work with Macs, that Samsung would do everything they could to get it to work correctly in the Apple ecosystem.

Aside from this, so far, this monitor is really nice.
 
Has anyone ever confirmed who makes the panels for this monitor? Is Samsung making these or do they buy them from LG Display(for example Samsung does buy panels from LG Display in some cases like WOLED panels for some of their cheaper OLED tvs).

I wonder if these are coming from LG Display and the higher graded panels during QA get allocated to Apple(paying more money) while rest go to Samsung and LG Electronics for their 5K display....LG Electronics operates separately from LG Display and they buy the panels from LG Display
Samsung S9 5k

Panel Mfg: BOE
Panel Part#: ME270L7B-N10
Panel Type: Oxide TFT-LCD
 
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