TuffLuffJimmy
macrumors G3
Windows is sophisticated. In fact it's graphics abilities are far more sophisticated than OS X.
New Honeycomb preview today, your toughts for iOS5 please
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Windows is sophisticated. In fact it's graphics abilities are far more sophisticated than OS X.
Sedulous
macrumors 68030
I agree. This is exactly why I don't use widgets on my Mac and see no need for extra apps called widgets on my phone. The apps ARE the widgets in IOS. On the other hand it would be nice, as probably 99% of those posting on here have indicated, that a more convergent notification screen to aggregate information in one place is needed.
Sedulous
macrumors 68030
Huh? Where did you read that?
I just thought of another advanced feature for iOS5 for iPad: a clock.
Rodimus Prime
macrumors G4
You for got one
-MMS are dumb.
I am pretty sure going back you will find those statement from Apple fanboys. Right after Apple updates same fanboys are singing how good it is.
chrmjenkins
macrumors 603
No one will doubt that Windows has the most advanced graphics capabilities of any OS out there, openGL or directX. It only makes sense, as Microsoft devotes the most resources to it compared to the other OS makers/distributers.
DeathChill
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newbiemacguy128
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I think it'd be way more simple to have all of those in widget form on a page then to go through and individually check each one.
I want to check my twitter, facebook, mail, and weather on a tablet that has widgets? CRAZY easy. Just turn it on, respond from your homescreen, turn it off.
On iOS...click on facebook, respond, click on home button. Click on mail button, respond, click on home button. Click on twitter button, respond, click on home button. Click on facebook button, respond, click on home button.
What this allows is a more streamlined way of checking your most used applications. Think about being able to play a game of Words with Friends on a widget. Then at the same time, you can be chatting it up with your twitter buddies and checking your email at the same time! It's multitasking without the screen swapping crap in between. With the hardware coming out now days, this is (or soon will be) perfectly viable without killing battery life too much.
Yes, you don't NEED widgets on a tablet to be successful. The first iPad already proved that. Would it be more convenient? Yes. iOS is supposed to be about simplicity, and this to me just screams it.
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TuffLuffJimmy
macrumors G3
Microsoft's gaming abilities, and graphics card support are what give Windows the graphics performance edge.
They did not say much at all about that. It was a stretched out talk about finding apps. The over the air install was cool. Other than that, rest was boring. They talked about tap tap revenge app which has been on the ios app store for a while. They showed off fruit ninja. They showed coverflow. They ran all on the Xoom. The dual core does make the os look running smooth. But overall, not that great. iPad one is way better.
JoeG4
macrumors 68030
I use widgets and think they're awesome - granted, that's just a couple of weather widgets, a calendar, and a sysinfo app. Still, being able to pull up some info that I use often (heck, some good RSS feeds!) on a very quick basis is awesome.
Then again, I think iOS is a mess. The pop-up notifications are obnoxious and remind me of using Mac OS 9 during the days of Windows 9x where everyone and their brother had real multitasking and Mac OS had .. Apple called multitasking at the time.
In fact, that's exactly how using iOS feels compared to the alternatives out there.
Right now, the worst thing in smartphones in general is the App fad. Everything has an app - oh you want to pay your bill? GET OUR APP! Want to view Walgreens weekly ad? WE'VE GOT THIS AWESOME APP BECAUSE THE IPHONE CANT RUN FLASH! *@#(%@#%
I don't want another *@#% app. As it is, iOS kinda reminds me of Windows 3.1 with page after page of icons all over the damn place.
I'm a big Apple enthusiast. In addition I'm a big Android enthusiast.
They're two very different platforms which compliment each other. I see no reason to declare one better than the other. Each of us has unique preferences, so these two platforms serve us quite well.
Furthermore I'm really into new technologies.
Why not enjoy both? I do
They're two very different platforms which compliment each other. I see no reason to declare one better than the other. Each of us has unique preferences, so these two platforms serve us quite well.
Furthermore I'm really into new technologies.
Why not enjoy both? I do
True, why not enjoy both, no need to hate.I'm a big Apple enthusiast. In addition I'm a big Android enthusiast.
They're two very different platforms which compliment each other. I see no reason to declare one better than the other. Each of us has unique preferences, so these two platforms serve us quite well.
Furthermore I'm really into new technologies.
Why not enjoy both? I do
I personally prefer iOS, more specifically Jailbroken iOS, the apps from AppStore/Cydia can be so well designed/polished and offer such functionality/entertainment/etc for me and I'm continiously being amazed at what devs come up with next.
That said, I'm not going to push iOS down someones throat who admires Android. It just means Android fits them better, just like iOS fits me better.
BTW, love the new Google Maps with 3D, hope iOS gets it too.
jmpnop
macrumors 6502a
I'm a big Apple enthusiast. In addition I'm a big Android enthusiast.
They're two very different platforms which compliment each other. I see no reason to declare one better than the other. Each of us has unique preferences, so these two platforms serve us quite well.
Furthermore I'm really into new technologies.
Why not enjoy both? I do
Stock Android is much better than jailbroken iOS functionality wise. When it comes to apps, iOS is far better than Android. If Apple improves their notification system and offers much more functionality, it'll be the best OS.
I use widgets and think they're awesome - granted, that's just a couple of weather widgets, a calendar, and a sysinfo app. Still, being able to pull up some info that I use often (heck, some good RSS feeds!) on a very quick basis is awesome.
Then again, I think iOS is a mess. The pop-up notifications are obnoxious and remind me of using Mac OS 9 during the days of Windows 9x where everyone and their brother had real multitasking and Mac OS had .. Apple called multitasking at the time.
In fact, that's exactly how using iOS feels compared to the alternatives out there.
Right now, the worst thing in smartphones in general is the App fad. Everything has an app - oh you want to pay your bill? GET OUR APP! Want to view Walgreens weekly ad? WE'VE GOT THIS AWESOME APP BECAUSE THE IPHONE CANT RUN FLASH! *@#(%@#%
I don't want another *@#% app. As it is, iOS kinda reminds me of Windows 3.1 with page after page of icons all over the damn place.
You, sir, 'get' me. Proper respect.
I think Apple is progressively adding more features annually. I suspect 5.0 will have better notifications, cloud solution of some sort, better social integration, native text to voice solution, too.
jmpnop
macrumors 6502a
Well lets hope. But Apple restricts far too much, just to make iOS as functional as Android it has to be jailbroken.
Sedulous
macrumors 68030
That doesn't mean it is more advanced.
Piggie
macrumors G3
Widgets are messy IMO. Android never got it right always slowed down the device. I admit I had a first gen Android device (G1) but there was no stability in anything it did. Even calling/texting was sketchy.
Why does notifications have to be complex and tell you everything? Simple works and it's nice to have the latest text appear straight away rather than having to navigate to the "messaging" app. I admit that there should be a overlay that puts all the communication (text/mms/e-mail) in one place rather than the little round numbers. However, it worked and that's why apple has kept it through 4 version of the iOS.Then again, I think iOS is a mess. The pop-up notifications are obnoxious and remind me of using Mac OS 9 during the days of Windows 9x where everyone and their brother had real multitasking and Mac OS had .. Apple called multitasking at the time.
People are greedy and want expect things that milli-second quicker. I'd rather have the stability of iOS than a sleek notification system which doesn't tell me much more.
Jealousy of the best thing Apple did to open the lid of the smartphone market. No-one needs flash as it's resource hungry and under-optimised because there's so many layers to it.
App folders. Solves that issue
. If you can find a better way of giving developers great access to a platform that gives customers very quick/easy ways to download software, e-mail Steve Jobs. I'm sure he'd be willing to ditch a good system for a worse one.Going back to the honeycomb thing; it'll be key whether Google have nailed Android stability and made the UI grow up. Especially with it's open source structure. If the UI is fussy and messy, then people will give up with it. I'm keen to try one when they appear.
For people who like messing around with devices too much that have far too much control and instability. AKA geeks and techies. I did that with Android and got fed up with it. I just wanted a device that did calling/texting/apps well. iOS and iPhone 4 fitted that bill nicely.
Why the android market will never catch up
You make some valid points, but the fact is that the android market will never catch up. Why? As a developer, I simply refuse to write apps for Android, because it's too much of a ********** hassle! With all the different hardware out there, nothing is uniform. I never have, and never will port one of my apps to android, and I know other developers with the same feelings.
The fact is that some people happen to love the iPad interface, and while your usability complaints may hold water now, the fact is that Steve will walk out on stage in a few weeks and blow the world away again. Apple has one thing android will never have, and that is Steve Jobbs. Until they can get a genius like steve, android will always be just a cheap POS trying to steal apple's ideas, and they can kiss my ass!
You make some valid points, but the fact is that the android market will never catch up. Why? As a developer, I simply refuse to write apps for Android, because it's too much of a ********** hassle! With all the different hardware out there, nothing is uniform. I never have, and never will port one of my apps to android, and I know other developers with the same feelings.
The fact is that some people happen to love the iPad interface, and while your usability complaints may hold water now, the fact is that Steve will walk out on stage in a few weeks and blow the world away again. Apple has one thing android will never have, and that is Steve Jobbs. Until they can get a genius like steve, android will always be just a cheap POS trying to steal apple's ideas, and they can kiss my ass!
Night Spring
macrumors P6
Unfortunately it won't be Steve walking out of stage to introduce the iPad2, at least not physically, but you are right that he is the genius behind iOS and iDevices. And even if, god forbid, Jobs never comes back, for the next few years at least, Apple will be able to build on the foundations he has laid out. When the iPad was first released, I ordered one sight unseen, because knowing my previous experiences with iPhones and iPod touches, and knowing that the iPad will have the same hardware quality and run the same OS, I knew exactly what I could expect. With the upcoming Honeycomb tablets, both hardware and software are unknown quantities. And while I understand that for some people, a better notification system and a single glance view of a lot of information on their homescreen is very important, for me, they are nice but not necessary, So Honeycomb just isn't attractive enough to make me consider switching, at all.
Almost all of the big app developers are already making apps for Android or have committed to do begin doing so in the next year or so. Others will no doubt follow. Android also has a pretty huge collection of talented developers who develop solely for Android.
No offence but Android doesn't need you.
Source, please?
jmpnop
macrumors 6502a
Jailbreaking an iOS device doesn't necessarily mean messing up the OS. One of the reasons why people jailbreak is to gain access to functionalities that Apple restrict. And these features come standard with Android. Apple has to improve on that. Just because you don't use it doesn't mean others don't use it and Apple shouldn't provide it. People differ and we decide what we'll use them for and not them.