i3 would be the biggest update in low-end since introduction of C2D. It's still ~20% faster. i5 is same as i3 but with Turbo and higher clock. Quad core can't be used in 21.5" due heat.
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New iMacs @ WWDC 2010 ???
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i3 would be the biggest update in low-end since introduction of C2D. It's still ~20% faster. i5 is same as i3 but with Turbo and higher clock. Quad core can't be used in 21.5" due heat.
I don't think speed is the main concern for the next update, but rather than technology of the chips. The C2D's are now considered inferior despite their adequate speed, so its understandable that many prospective would rather hold out and see if Apple utilise the brand new i3/i5 chips that, even if they aren't so much faster, at least have a much better life-span and obviously offer improvements other than speed.
It is easy to forget afterall that the current 3.06ghz C2D's are very, very speedy for most peoples needs - particularly so for that price range!
It is easy to forget afterall that the current 3.06ghz C2D's are very, very speedy for most peoples needs - particularly so for that price range!
I5s, Quad Core Standard
i would think that new imacs would have improved nvidia 320/330 m graphics with 256mb of gddr3 memory, the next line would probably contain radeon mobility 5750 graphics and the entry 27 would too, the high end may contain mobility 5870 graphics. As for cpus, the entry should have c2ds at improved clock speeds +i3 upgrades?, the 21.5 and 27 inch high end having dual core desktop i5s as their standards (only 7watts more tdp) and upgrades to faster clocks. the high end 27, eould probably have the i7 used now standard, with upgrades to 2.93 ghz as others are at a 130w tdp and tight on apple. the quad i5 could be used... you never know
i would think that new imacs would have improved nvidia 320/330 m graphics with 256mb of gddr3 memory, the next line would probably contain radeon mobility 5750 graphics and the entry 27 would too, the high end may contain mobility 5870 graphics. As for cpus, the entry should have c2ds at improved clock speeds +i3 upgrades?, the 21.5 and 27 inch high end having dual core desktop i5s as their standards (only 7watts more tdp) and upgrades to faster clocks. the high end 27, eould probably have the i7 used now standard, with upgrades to 2.93 ghz as others are at a 130w tdp and tight on apple. the quad i5 could be used... you never know
It's pretty simple, if you're in the market for a 27" iMac, and don't need a fast GPU, buy the current model. If you want a faster GPU than the current 4850, wait for WWDC or until october.
If you're in for a 21.5" model, wait for updates. It's 100% sure that they'll drop the C2D's or at least the Geforce 9400M because now even the basic MacBook has a faster GPU than the basic iMac.
If you're in for a 21.5" model, wait for updates. It's 100% sure that they'll drop the C2D's or at least the Geforce 9400M because now even the basic MacBook has a faster GPU than the basic iMac.
That's what I'm hoping for as well, 27" is too big for my room but I still want to be able to play PS3 through the iMac.
hellhammer, what is your perspective of the imac lineup... is a desktop 5750 likely? the desktop 5750 has less stream processors but higher memory bandwith.. while the 5770 has the same specs as the mobility 5870 but higher clock speeds and less eyefinity capabilities
I'm not saying more than a Juniper (desktop 57xx, mobile 58xx) based GPU because I think Apple modifies it anyway. It won't run at default clocks so it's impossible to say. Same thing about naming, it can be called anything from ATI 5750 to ATI 5870 PRO or Apple may even come up with new name
Desktop 5570 is possible and mobile 56xx and 57xx are based on it but I'm not betting my money on desktop GPUs as Apple hasn't used them in iMacs. My guess is mobile 57xx in mid level iMacs as 5650 is barely and upgrade from 4670 and its low TDP is useless for iMac.
Thanks! Looks interesting! Any idea on what chips are Vancouvers based on? Or what is this update providing more than a naming scheme?
Doesn't seem to be that huge update, Blackcomb might be if it's based on Cypress chip rather than Juniper but it's not coming before 2011. Anyway, thanks a lot, Apple might be holding the iMac update till new chips
Vancouver is simply mobile Southern Islands. The naming scheme is different though.Thanks! Looks interesting! Any idea on what chips are Vancouvers based on? Or what is this update providing more than a naming scheme?
Doesn't seem to be that huge update, Blackcomb might be if it's based on Cypress chip rather than Juniper but it's not coming before 2011. Anyway, thanks a lot, Apple might be holding the iMac update till new chips
Blackcomb looks like it's going to based off of the desktop Barts (HD 67xx) core.
Could be, but is Barts based on Juniper then (if I recall correctly SNI will use 5xxx cores with Northern Island's uncore)? Weird that mobile GPUs are coming before desktop ones though
I don't have any details on the core configuration for Southern Islands at this time. The last rumor was, as you remember, an Evergreen core with a Northern Islands uncore.
I'm expecting fewer harvested parts given the experiences with 40nm.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3750/...dresden-and-ny-fabs-in-anticipation-of-2822nm
That is surprising as well.
We will see... I'm afraid that the mobile versions might be more or less renamed 5xxx series, especially the late 2010 versions. Maybe ATI can finally give us good mobile chip by using Cypress with reasonable TDP in high-end as SNI will concentrate on power efficiency.
Yeah, I think ATI will just put out current Mobility +10 like they did with the Mobility 4860 being more or less a renamed 4850.
They'll most likely be 5800 series with little speed bumps and Eyefinity support.
The Blackcomb looks interesting though because they're going back to a 256 bits bus. Seeing that it will support UVD 3 makes me think that it will be based on the 6000 Series too.
Anyway, for the next iMac, I really hope that Apple will finally put more than 512 MB of VRAM. Oh and make that GDDR5 too.
USB 3 would be great to use the Intensity Shuttle, just put a NEC chip in there. It would also put something new in every iMac as the high-end 27" would only get a new GPU in the refresh (don't see the overpriced i7 870 making its way in the iMac).
My dream (which will never happen for now) would be for Apple to get rid of the superdrive in all their product and make the external superdrive universal. The space gained would be huge (especially in the laptops). In the iMac, they could either officially put a second HDD/SSD or a better GPU with a good cooling system.
Yeah, I think ATI will just put out current Mobility +10 like they did with the Mobility 4860 being more or less a renamed 4850.
They'll most likely be 5800 series with little speed bumps and Eyefinity support.
The Blackcomb looks interesting though because they're going back to a 256 bits bus. Seeing that it will support UVD 3 makes me think that it will be based on the 6000 Series too.
Anyway, for the next iMac, I really hope that Apple will finally put more than 512 MB of VRAM. Oh and make that GDDR5 too.
USB 3 would be great to use the Intensity Shuttle, just put a NEC chip in there. It would also put something new in every iMac as the high-end 27" would only get a new GPU in the refresh (don't see the overpriced i7 870 making its way in the iMac).
My dream (which will never happen for now) would be for Apple to get rid of the superdrive in all their product and make the external superdrive universal. The space gained would be huge (especially in the laptops). In the iMac, they could either officially put a second HDD/SSD or a better GPU with a good cooling system.
hey! that would be a good idea!!! maybe then apple would put desktop gpus!! i dont really care about the stupid 8x superdrive but universal would be great. maybe then apple would put in a great gpu,make more space for hardcore gaming audio!! heatsinks etc.
Assuming they don't update for WWDC, how much faster is the baseline 21.5'' compared to mine?