This is literally what I posted right above you my dude LOL
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Other New iPhones: intel or Qualcomm?
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yes you posted a link. i simply posted the pic so people didnt have to go to a link
I assume some of the services that tear apart the iphone when it's released will publish some results on the modem. I'm counting on that. Last year, I got my X Sim free to get the Qualcomm modem that has worked flawlessly. I ordered the XS but I'll cancel the order before it ships If the analysis of the Intel Radio Modem is unimpressive. I personally experienced a significant difference with the Qualcomm vs the earlier Intel's - in terms of call quality. I hope Apple has been as demanding on the modem from Intel as they are on other stuff as some of us care alot.
Facts are facts. As much as you like to deny objective reality, your denials don't make it my "opinion". I don't get to have an opinion, and neither do you, because the facts are the facts, and the facts are clear. You obviously don't understand how to read, as the cellular insights report clearly shows that the Qualcomm radios have better reception with objective, numerical data.
It is highly unlikely that Intel has magically overcome many years of inferior performance in the same year that Qualcomm beat their own records yet again with the X20, but we'll see.
Then compare 2017 to 2017 in the same phone. The Intel radios are still crap.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/12/01/qualcomm-iphone-x-still-faster-than-intel/
The data don't lie, Qualcomm modems are superior.
Although I can't win a speed test in excellent signal conditions on an unloaded cell site against an Intel iPhone 8 with my Qualcomm X12, I can still beat it in weak signal performance. Heck, I can probably beat it with my Qualcomm X9-based Moto G6.
At first I thought it was just B14, but then I realized those numbers are very fishy. I think it's way too small of a dataset, and people are going to known good locations to test it right now. It will take some time for the data to even out.
If people actually understood how much better Qualcomm-based phones are at getting a signal, they would absolutely care. People don't like when their phone has No Service, and Qualcomm-based phones see No Service less frequently than Intel-based phones.
Of course Qualcomm shows the data and Intel doesn't because the data are clear, and they show that Qualcomm's modems are better. Intel wouldn't show the massive and highly objective Ookla dataset, because it would be embarrassing for them.
Not saying this wasn't the case, but VoLTE runs phone calls with software and over IP. So the voice call quality should be identical on pretty much all iPhones given the same network conditions.
In the same boat: I had an iPhone 8 Plus and an X, both with Intel. That was a horrible experience in NYC. I had to return the X and buy an unlocked version in order to get the Qualcomm part. The difference was very significant. I really don’t know how people can use those phones with the Intel chip! In so many cases the phones were just unusable!
I found that listening to calls over WIFI was far more reliable with Qualcomm than Intel - I live on the river and the cell towers are slanted up to reach the people up the hills kind of passing me by.
Looking forward to seeing the tests on the 2018 phones and I hope they look good.
Anytime i read 2017 iphone stuff in this thread I dont even read. WE ALL KNOW qualcomm modem was better than intel's in the past.
Anytime i read 2017 iphone stuff in this thread I dont even read. WE ALL KNOW qualcomm modem was better than intel's in the past.
And after at least seven years of inferior performance, and in a year where Qualcomm hit the ball out of the park, you're expecting a different result out of Intel?
We'll see I guess.And after at least seven years of inferior performance, and in a year where Qualcomm hit the ball out of the park, you're expecting a different result out of Intel?
Yea and i totally see what you mean it really just is beating a dead horse at this point (and so close the us actually getting the phone in our hands to test). I expect improvements in the new 7560 and am objectively curious about how improved it actually is.
Just do some research people. The a1865 is the qualcom modem and the other is the intel modem. Apple has been in a lawsuit with intel due to it's poor reception and it's "monopoly" per Apple. Read on in this article or google the various others:
https://www.repeaterstore.com/blogs/main/for-better-cell-signal-buy-the-a1865-model-of-the-iphone-x
I bought the iPhone Xs Max Sim free version again this year in hopes that I get the Qualcom among other reasons.
https://www.repeaterstore.com/blogs/main/for-better-cell-signal-buy-the-a1865-model-of-the-iphone-x
I bought the iPhone Xs Max Sim free version again this year in hopes that I get the Qualcom among other reasons.
There is no Qualcomm Xs/Ms Max/Xr. They are all Intel. The best Qualcomm iPhone you can still buy is the SIM-Free 8+.
There are 2 versions of modems in the iPhone X. Are you saying the 8+ modem was better than the iPhone X Qualcomm modem?
He is confused about that since this years phones have no Qualcomm modems.
He is saying the Qualcomm modem in the 8+ is better than the intel modemon the new Xs.
He is very adamant about that.
I disagree,
.The last Qualcomm radios were in the 8/8+/X. The X had weaker RF than the 8/8+, although it's hard to say by how much, so I'm not sure if a Qualcomm X would beat an Intel 8/8+ or not. But that's irrelevant now, since you can't buy a X anymore.
Therefore, we're left with the 8/8+. Each is available with Intel or Qualcomm, so the Qualcomm 8 or 8+ would have the best RF performance. The 8+ might have a teeny, tiny edge over the 8 just because it's larger, and has more space for the antennas, and there's less room for human flesh to be in the way, but the difference is negligible.
He is saying the Qualcomm modem in the 8+ is better than the intel modemon the new Xs.
He is very adamant about that.
I disagree,.
We'll see soon when tests are done if Intel can overcome 7+ years of inferior performance to Qualcomm in a single year. That seems highly unlikely. However, we really won't know for sure, since there is no Qualcomm version, so we're also looking at the RF design of these new phones, which appears to be rather lousy.
This guy's theory/interpretation of the data is that the Xs Max's design is so bad that even a Qualcomm X20 radio couldn't save it from having lousy reception:
https://www.wiwavelength.com/2018/09/iphone-xs-and-xs-max-mostly-fail-to.html
I'd love to see a direct comparison to the S9+/Note 9, which seems to be the current RF champ.
This is very interesting to see. I'm aware Apple basically tried to limit the performance of the Qualcomm to match the Intel in last years devices but I highly doubt Apple would basically downgrade the reception in their devices this drastically as the article is suggesting. Guess we will soon find out!
I would think reviewers would've mentioned something but maybe not.
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Qualcomm. Sprint/Verizon/sim unlocked were all Qualcomm
They wouldn't have downgraded the design, but I'm wondering if they traded off reception for some of the design aspects of the X-series design. It's not like Apple has never traded off functionality for the way something looks before!
Agreed. This is something that bothers me about Apple. I am a firm believer that form should follow function. Don’t get me wrong, looks matter, but not when it negatively affects functionality.
And if they did degrade the reception for the design, Samsung has already proven that you don't have to compromise the looks for performance, as they did both.
Wow. That is really really bad news.
I think a cancel my order and send the XS Max back to Apple. I don't pay so much money for a phone with worse reception.