....that he's a stodgy old man oblivious of computer gaming
However, its hard to justify a Mac Pro unless its your money making workhorse. It was cheaper for me to just keep my old mac and just build winbox gaming machine.
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New Mac Pro Octo-core / 8800GT / Crysis
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....that he's a stodgy old man oblivious of computer gaming
However, its hard to justify a Mac Pro unless its your money making workhorse. It was cheaper for me to just keep my old mac and just build winbox gaming machine.
....that he's a stodgy old man oblivious of computer gaming
However, its hard to justify a Mac Pro unless its your money making workhorse. It was cheaper for me to just keep my old mac and just build winbox gaming machine.
Ha! A fellow DA owner! I have a Digital Audio G4 myself, and am looking to upgrade in ~12 months. But I think I'll spring for a Mac Pro instead of another homebuilt PC, because I want one machine that can do everything in one box - gaming on Windows, productivity on OS X.
By the way, how did you come by your 7800GS? I thought about getting one but didn't want to do it unless I could do the flash myself, and my PC blew up before that happened..plus, I have an X850 PRO I never got around to flashing so I couldn't justify yet another project.
I'm happy with my 6800GT, but my poor little G4 is way obsolete for 3D games...I'm on my 8th run through CoD2.
I can understand that, unfortunately my current situation has me rather spoiled. My PC folds and if I want runs a TVtuner while not gaming, with both my mac and PC sitting on the same desk, monitors side by side. Would love a used Mac Pro, but now I've kinda boxed myself out of one.
My sister happens to be a gamer, and for her birthday I bought her a 7800GS in late 2005(ensuring it was a G70 core). Last June I got an X1950pro AGP on special. I just asked her to bring the 7800GS back up for a trade since my 3 year old flashed 6800GT was dying. The 7800GS with the overclocked rom is a good pinch faster, specially at my monitors native resolution. However its not worth the money people are charging. Flashed mine myself as well as having it dropped in my lap fate wise. The Digital Audio G4 are soo old it was mostly for fun anyhoo. Even Quad G5s are at the end of their rope for gaming these days support wise.
I'm happy with my 6800GT, but my poor little G4 is way obsolete for 3D games...I'm on my 8th run through CoD2.
I love CoD2 too, did a rerun a few weeks ago. But still with a 7800GS it was painful FPS during the american campaign. Other games of that age surprised me, Opengl doom3 based games still run really well at 1920x1200
. Prey at maximum almost makes my jaw drop that the DA is a 6 year old machine.
The 7800GS is a nice flash for a G5, overkill for a G4 but then again my machine is already overkill for a G4.
It's a pain to find a G70 model these days though.I love CoD2 too, did a rerun a few weeks ago. But still with a 7800GS it was painful FPS during the american campaign. Other games of that age surprised me, Opengl doom3 based games still run really well at 1920x1200
With my setup the D-Day landing level is a slide show near the cliffs, but most of the rest of the game is OK with a few tweaks. I'm running one of the 7455 G4 chips with the L3 cache, which seems to hold its own against faster 7447 CPUs. I'm very happy with the 6800GT as well, it runs hot but has yet to give me major issues after a couple years of use.
I've pretty much reached the end of upgrade viability on my G4 - none of the faster CPUs would give me a major boost over my 1.4GHz chip for non-SMP apps, and only my X850 PRO (flashed to XT, but no DVI
) or the 7800GS would outrun the 6800GT - but not by a ton. So I'm saving for an Octo-Core Mac Pro plus a PC G92-based video card to flash. Well, leopard actually gave dual G4 an actual boost in some games thanks to multithreaded PPC opengl. Have a friend with a single Gigadesigns 7455 in a 2002 quicksilver in 9800pro whos been eying my machine for awhile, Soo if I were to drop my DA I do have a home for my old parts.
As for CoD2, yeah exact same spot for me hehe. Otherwise it does run good. Just too spoiled as I have run that game on PC to. CoD2 took awhile to come of age, like Oblivion a year ago and Crysis now. I remember it being a complete Slideshow in the demo with a Athlon 3200XP and 6800GT(before the flash) unless I dialed it down too.
Hmm, well I had a friend who got a really nice dual 2.5ghz G5 a year ago dirt cheap from a computer lab at a university mac'ing to X86. So I would love to try that too, Apple should have EFI32 8800GT upgrades out soon enough.
As for CoD2, yeah exact same spot for me hehe. Otherwise it does run good. Just too spoiled as I have run that game on PC to. CoD2 took awhile to come of age, like Oblivion a year ago and Crysis now. I remember it being a complete Slideshow in the demo with a Athlon 3200XP and 6800GT(before the flash) unless I dialed it down too.
Hmm, well I had a friend who got a really nice dual 2.5ghz G5 a year ago dirt cheap from a computer lab at a university mac'ing to X86. So I would love to try that too, Apple should have EFI32 8800GT upgrades out soon enough.
I think he's just mad because he keeps getting fragged when he tries to play...
"those damn kids keep killing me! i'm sooooo mad!!!! waaa! waaa!!" LOL
"those damn kids keep killing me! i'm sooooo mad!!!! waaa! waaa!!" LOL
You're kidding right?
Maybe on Low...
Me? I'm expecting my next MBP (when I finish my degree at the end of 2010) will run Crysis plenty well.
Of interest, are these results at High or Very High? XP or Vista? Anyone tried changing the .cfg files in XP to get Very High? How does that run?
Boot Camp.
Crysis wouldn't even run under Fusion or Parallels, because they don't support shaders. Basically, in my opinion, any game playing should be done in Boot Camp. Except for maybe Minesweeper. Maybe.
You can't have three. No third power connector, too much power draw for the bus, and no SLI anyway.
It's impossible from a hardware and software standpoint.
Two on the other hand... Not only possible, but I'm doing it.
1) The human eye can only recognise about 25-30 fps. Any faster than this is totally fluid. 14 milliseconds corresponds to a little over 70 fps. No problem.
2) The only noticeable effect that can be seen on a low refresh rate monitor is ghosting, or echoes as something moves at high speed across the screen. As Crysis uses Motion Blur at medium+ quality settings, this also makes a 14ms response time irrelevant.
3) What kind of computer is capable of running Crysis at a decent quality and resolution at more than 70 fps? And 4ms of course corresponds to 250 fps, which is totally and undeniably pointless...
Not if you're a graphics whore who thinks that games are only worth playing with a 8800 Ultra triple SLI setup with two 30" monitors.
Not if you're a graphics whore who thinks that games are only worth playing with a 8800 Ultra triple SLI setup with two 30" monitors.
Yup, and that setup would still fail to play Crysis at even playable framerates, let alone 250 fps : )
more interested in Call of Duty 4 and Gears of War
Not sure what all the fuss is about in regards to Crysis. Sure it can look good (if you have the machine) but I'm looking forward to playing Gears of War, Call of Duty 4 and Alan Wake when it comes out. Can't wait to get my Mac Pro/8800 delivered. Seems to be taking ages.
Not sure what all the fuss is about in regards to Crysis. Sure it can look good (if you have the machine) but I'm looking forward to playing Gears of War, Call of Duty 4 and Alan Wake when it comes out. Can't wait to get my Mac Pro/8800 delivered. Seems to be taking ages.
Crysis is pretty over-rated. Graphically it's cool for sure, but all it's doing is setting the bar higher for games in terms of rendering... as far as gameplay it's nothing more than Ghost Recon with prettier foliage. Mostly it's just a benchmark to show off how bad ass your computer is. Like the PC clowns running 3 video cards to get crazy frame rate data.
It's kind of fun just to say you got it running on a Mac though. Kind of like when I got OS X running on my Power Computing Mac clone.
My Mac pro arrived today, but I am having second thoughts. I have heard that apple doesn't keep up very well with whats current and I will assume the 8800gt is sold with the pro to attract new buyers and most likely wont see a new release of a better video card until 2011 or something but by then it will be completely obsolete and you will need to buy a whole new system.
My Mac pro arrived today, but I am having second thoughts. I have heard that apple doesn't keep up very well with whats current and I will assume the 8800gt is sold with the pro to attract new buyers and most likely wont see a new release of a better video card until 2011 or something but by then it will be completely obsolete and you will need to buy a whole new system.
You realize that the ability to upgrade more than just your systems RAM is one of the selling points of a Mac Pro... right?