new MacBook has second gen butterly keyboard, starts with m3, up to 16GB RAM

[super chimp]

macOS is not iOS by any stretch of the imagination.

Depends what kind of user you are I would argue.

 

[Appleaker]

I use a 15" rMBP w/ Touch Bar at work.

Butterfly 2 is a bit firmer but doesn't really help with the flatness of the key. I still have to pretend to hit them pretty hard to have any semblance of feedback, and at that point, Butterfly 2 is actually even louder than the Butterfly 1 keyboard. Both of which still cannot beat the key travel and feedback of the Apple wireless keyboard (I use this at home because it takes up less space), which is still a far cry from a mechanical keyboard (use this at work because mechanical keyboard master race!).

Both of the Butterfly keyboards I simply hate, so unless I'm forced to use either one when I'm on the go, I just use an external keyboard instead. I'd call them "buttery keyboard" instead of "butterfly." I know some sacrifices have to be made to make the laptops thinner but seriously, the keyboards are just so bad now.

Yeah, very flat and not comfortable. I often press hard on keyboard, but with the butterfly it is a lot louder. Personally I like the sound and sometimes feel but it can be frustrating for others. Also it's inconstancy is annoying. Because it's much more mechanical (not in the sense of a mechanical keyboard, but more machine-like), I feel it's not as welcoming to type. I like the magic keyboard due to the higher travel and extreme constancy, as well as quieter sound, but that wouldn't be possible to implement in the current MB designs.
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If you're gonna leave it with one port after 2 years, at least put Thunderbolt 3 in that USB-C port

I believe there are hardware limitations preventing them, one of them being support on Y-series processors. That's also why we're stuck with gen 1 speeds. I wouldn't mind that if they could find a way to get a second port on there.

 

[ColdShadow]

Wait...the Macbook Pro and the Macbook both start at $1299? What am I missing here? What's the appeal of the Macbook if the prices are identical?

smaller, lighter more portable obviously.

 

[PatriotInvasion]

I own a 2015 gold 12" MacBook at home and use a 2016 15" MacBook Pro with Touch Bar at work daily. I can confidently say the Gen 2 version of the butterfly keyboard is a big improvement. The buttons feel more solid, and although the travel isn't much more, it is noticeable enough to feel better and make less mistakes.

It almost is enough to make me upgrade my 2015 model, but I think my biggest gripe is overall sluggish performance (which was expected when I bought it) and would prefer to see some benchmarks and see how the updated integrated graphics chip handles common tasks.

 

[ApolloBoy]

smaller, lighter more portable obviously.

And double the storage.

 

[maerz001]

Can anyone give me some advice please? I can't decide between an i5 with 8gb Ram or one with 16Gb. All I'll be using it for is, web, music, film and photos. I don't mind paying the extra for the Ram but only if I'm going to make use of it. I also intend to bootcamp windows 10 (to use for work). An

8GB is enough as long as u don't use windows in a VM. But with bootcamp it's fine

 

[BWhaler]

Been holding off on getting a MB until it had better specs and was wondering as far as getting the best bang for your buck is it better to upgrade from i5 to i7 or 8 to 16GB RAM, if you can only choose one?

Memory, always chose more memory.

 

[stylinexpat]

Anyone know what the new SSD being used is? What speed increase/

 

[maerz001]

Anyone know what the new SSD being used is? What speed increase/

50% they said

 

[stylinexpat]

50% they said

Thanks.. If anyone has any numbers please share on Read Write numbers

 

[maerz001]

Thanks.. If anyone has any numbers please share on Read Write numbers

The new MacBook delivers up to 20 percent faster performance with new seventh‑generation Intel Core m3, i5, and i7 processors,1 and up to 50 percent faster SSD storage.

https://www.apple.com/macbook/

That's all. Nothing to see in tech specs either. Think we have to wait for some tests

 

[Xavier Pander]

That's all. Nothing to see in tech specs either. Think we have to wait for some tests

are these benchmark tests are running the processor for longer time or do they use the boost and make things look better than they are in real life?

 

[C64]

are these benchmark tests are running the processor for longer time or do they use the boost and make things look better than they are in real life?

Apple's estimates are usually pretty close to real-life performance.

 

[maerz001]

are these benchmark tests are running the processor for longer time or do they use the boost and make things look better than they are in real life?

well they say: "MacBook continuously monitors system thermal and power conditions, and may adjust performance as needed to maintain optimal system operation."

but this accounts also for the 2016 model. so anyway, overall it should be faster and in the 1.5GB/s range. but if you are so concerned and need the speed than you have to get the MBP wit 3GB/s