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skaertus

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Great response, one thing really makes me wonder if it's worth the upgrade: 16 to 32GB RAM. It costs quite a bit, however since it is unified memory shared with the GPU, this could make a huge difference in how much RAM I would normally need.

Right now I am using around 12GB with normal use, so 16GB would have been enough. With the new architecture sharing memory between CPU and GPU, does anyone have an idea of approximately how much memory the GPU will require with normal use?
It depends on your use and for how long you intend to keep your Mac.

If you use 12 GB with normal use right now, my take is that you should get 32 GB. In a year or two, software will become more demanding and you will need more than 16 GB.
 
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Ludologue

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By curiosity, I talked with a seller from Apple chat and explained her the same things as I did in this post

She proposed this :
-> M1 Max
-> GPU 24
-> Ram 64 Go
-> Storag 2 To

Her arguments:
-> Using multiple apps at the same time
-> Video editing + editing + Windows on it
-> Need for dedicated memory for Windows app

It seems a bit overkill... Your thoughts?
 
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Take Flight

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Well, I think it depends. As for performance, the 1 TB SSD may be faster than the 512 GB one, but I found no specific information on this.

As for the size of storage, it also depends. The OP mentioned he already has 500 storage and he frequently runs out of it. If he plans to keep this laptop for some time (he mentions 10 years), then it is probably a good idea to get more storage. In a few years, software will take even more space and files tend to accumulate.

Plus, there is so much you can store on the cloud without paying a lot. I have a Microsoft 365 account and it allows me 1 TB on OneDrive. I may have a larger account or another service, but I do not think it is necessary to store more files on the cloud. But additional local storage is always a plus as you need both free space and space to allocate the OS and installed software.

As for RAM, do you really use that much? What kind of apps? I have 16 GB on a 2016 Intel MacBook Pro and, while its performance is far from ideal, I am not sure if the memory is the problem.
Microsoft is not exactly the bastion of efficiencies, but pretty much any heavy use of Office apps does a number on ram...especially excel when you have many calculations, tabs, etc. Not to mention the bloated Teams.

I regularly use many web apps/websites that easily take up 1gig+ in a single tab. So any enterprise/transactional type web apps definitely call for more.

And if you plan to connect multiple monitors, there is a system process called WindowServer that easily bloats into multiple gigs of RAM.
 

SpotOnT

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We are just at the start of the Mxxx series. The capability curve will likely be steeper than with the Intel processors and thus increase faster. It makes me question the whole idea of holding onto a Macbook for more than a couple of years.

Absolutely agree. Which is why I would suggest getting the cheapest MacBook Pro that will work for your needs today and plan for an earlier, rather than a later, upgrade.
 

SpotOnT

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By curiosity, I talked with a seller from Apple chat and explained her the same things as I did in this post

She proposed this :
-> M1 Max
-> GPU 24
-> Ram 64 Go
-> Storag 2 To

Her arguments:
-> Using multiple apps at the same time
-> Video editing + editing + Windows on it
-> Need for dedicated memory for Windows app

It seems a bit overkill... Your thoughts?

Ya, if you really plan on doing a lot in Microsoft with parallels, it might be worth considering doing 32 GB of ram instead of 16 GB of ram.

As for getting the M1 Max with 64 GB of ram, why not just buy the base version of the Macbook Pro and then with the extra money you would save, buy a PC laptop as well. Than you don’t have to worry about running anything in parallels.

Just trying to say that the upgrade cost to M1 Max and 64 GB of ram is huge. If your only reason for doing that is to have a better workflow in Windows - than maybe it would be smarter to buy 2 computers for the same price.
 

Rck1984

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A general note:

A lot of people will tell you to get as much as you can afford and go for 32GB to be "future proof".

Personally, I don't believe in future proofing and think it's stupid. I buy what I need right now (or what I need in the very near future) and upgrade my MacBook in 2-3 years.

By then, all sorts of new features and higher specs are out, and you're stuck with your overpriced/overspec'd Macbook of several years old.

I'd rather save that extra cash for unneeded resources now and spend it later to upgrade again.
 

interbear

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A general note:

A lot of people will tell you to get as much as you can afford and go for 32GB to be "future proof".

Personally, I don't believe in future proofing and think it's stupid. I buy what I need right now (or what I need in the very near future) and upgrade my MacBook in 2-3 years.

By then, all sorts of new features and higher specs are out, and you're stuck with your overpriced/overspec'd Macbook of several years old.

I'd rather save that extra cash for unneeded resources now and spend it later to upgrade again.

I‘m coming around to this way of thinking so pondering the entry level MBP 14” with 1TB SSD. Pretty sure that would do me just fine for 3-4 years. Continually upgrading to the latest entry level machine every 3-4 years is probably better than overspeccing now and paying over the odds for things like extra RAM. I made that mistake with my 2019 MBP 16” :rolleyes:
 

davidg4781

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I‘m coming around to this way of thinking so pondering the entry level MBP 14” with 1TB SSD. Pretty sure that would do me just fine for 3-4 years. Continually upgrading to the latest entry level machine every 3-4 years is probably better than overspeccing now and paying over the odds for things like extra RAM. I made that mistake with my 2019 MBP 16” :rolleyes:

Me too. And I’m actually considering a maxed out 13” MBP. I mean, I’m coming from a 2010 MBP.
 

Rck1984

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I‘m coming around to this way of thinking so pondering the entry level MBP 14” with 1TB SSD. Pretty sure that would do me just fine for 3-4 years. Continually upgrading to the latest entry level machine every 3-4 years is probably better than overspeccing now and paying over the odds for things like extra RAM. I made that mistake with my 2019 MBP 16” :rolleyes:

Exactly, overspecing/overpaying for something you might never utilize is a total waste of cash imho. Get what you need now and upgrade in 2-3 years when "the new best thing" releases.
 
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jerryk

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By curiosity, I talked with a seller from Apple chat and explained her the same things as I did in this post

She proposed this :
-> M1 Max
-> GPU 24
-> Ram 64 Go
-> Storag 2 To

Her arguments:
-> Using multiple apps at the same time
-> Video editing + editing + Windows on it
-> Need for dedicated memory for Windows app

It seems a bit overkill... Your thoughts?

Wow! That is high-end system. Maybe the lady works on commission.
 
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Ludologue

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Finally, I followed all your advices and took the basic 14''.
The only option I tooked was a storage of 1 To

We'll see in a few years what will be... Keep it or resell it and change to a new one ;)

A BIG THANKS to all of you that helped me save money ;)

Now waiting for 19-25 november
 

Love-hate 🍏 relationship

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Well, I could not find information about the weight at Apple's website. I am not sure about the fast charging for the 8 CPU model.

This specific information cannot be found at Apple's website. You would have to wait for the first reviews or for it to be available elsewhere.
oh sh*t hadnt thought about it,any news on that ? whether the base 8c has fast charging? i mean i suppose so since u can add a 96w charger for 20 euros but...
 

skaertus

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By curiosity, I talked with a seller from Apple chat and explained her the same things as I did in this post

She proposed this :
-> M1 Max
-> GPU 24
-> Ram 64 Go
-> Storag 2 To

Her arguments:
-> Using multiple apps at the same time
-> Video editing + editing + Windows on it
-> Need for dedicated memory for Windows app

It seems a bit overkill... Your thoughts?
Wow!

All of Apple's speech on Monday would have been nonsense if this configuration is required to run the sort of things you intend to.

This laptop would cost you $3,899. With that kind of money, you could buy both a 14-inch MacBook Pro and a PC laptop to run Windows apps and games.

If an Apple seller ever told me any of this, I would promptly answer to him that I would choose a Windows laptop instead.
 

Beau10

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Exactly, overspecing/overpaying for something you might never utilize is a total waste of cash imho. Get what you need now and upgrade in 2-3 years when "the new best thing" releases.

So happy to see a fellow MacRumorite beating the drum I've been beating for many years.

Macs are not like PCs nor pickup trucks - because of high build quality and brand equity resell is higher than one might think, even for a 3 year old machine. And conversely, options are more expensive than one would hope... almost to the point where you'd think the base models are loss leaders. You should always buy the base model if it satisfies your needs right now, because they likely aren't going to materially change in another rev or two... but if they do, resell and buy to your needs at that rev point.

The director of my dept and I got into a tussle about speccing out our developers' machines... unfortunately I got a largely maxxed out 16" (i9, 64gb, 2 tb) a little over a year ago and likely won't be able to move to the new 16" for another 2-3 years min unless I purchase it myself or get a new job - because, ya know, my machine cost about 2x the price of an off the shelf model that probably would have done the job and it's 'future-proofed'. The new 16" leave it in the dust! Sick of this 4 hour battery lap burner.
 
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