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iEdd

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I think this is definitely something apple will be fixing next update for pbs...
 

Demon Hunter

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epepper9 said:
I think this is definitely something apple will be fixing next update for pbs...

But Rev. D didn't have these issues...

I was hoping for good resale value, but this is ridiculous!
 

osiris315

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Apr 7, 2005
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New Airport update from Apple site

AirPort Update 2005-001

This update fixes reliability and resolves AirPort compatibility issues with certain third party 802.11 cards and access points for Mac OS X v10.4.3 and later.

System Requirements:
- Mac OS X v10.4.3 and later
- AirPort Extreme card

Link here

Hope that this helps you powerbook guys+gals..
 

Temujin

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osiris315 said:
AirPort Update 2005-001

This update fixes reliability and resolves AirPort compatibility issues with certain third party 802.11 cards and access points for Mac OS X v10.4.3 and later.

System Requirements:
- Mac OS X v10.4.3 and later
- AirPort Extreme card

Link here

Hope that this helps you powerbook guys+gals..

Thanks, just released today I see. I'll bring it to school and see if this fixes the problem.

Also possible through OS Update I see.
 

rosalindavenue

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drlunanerd said:
You can't get at the Airport cards in new 15" PBs. There's no longer an access door in the battery compartment - I was really surprised by this when I got one at work. So not sure how you check the antenna connection. It's possible I suppose that Airport is now on the motherboard and not a separate card.

I think the the Airport is built in on the motherboard in the most recent rev of the ibooks and powerbooks. I searched the forums for a while and tried to veify this but couldn't nail it down-- I'll keep looking.
 

Demon Hunter

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rosalindavenue said:
I think the the Airport is built in on the motherboard in the most recent rev of the ibooks and powerbooks. I searched the forums for a while and tried to veify this but couldn't nail it down-- I'll keep looking.

Thanks -- I've been trying to hunt down that info too.
 

Temujin

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Thanks again for the link. I tried again without the update. Still didn’t work. Then I installed the update, and Bang!!! Zip!! it worked. Connected right away, with no problems at all.

Don't know about stability yet though.
 

caveman_uk

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Feb 17, 2003
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Having owned both an ibook and a powerbook I can confirm that the ibooks have MUCH better wireless reception. Probably due to plastic being a crap absorber of radio waves...

As dfarrara mentioned, the airport aerials for the powerbook are either side of the screen. The system sees which one gives the best wireless reception and uses that one. It doesn't use both at any one time. The other aerial is used for bluetooth.
 

chaosbunny

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Hearing all these stories now about the issues with ne new pbs I'm very glad I have my rev D in full working order. No airport problems (20 metres through walls no big deal), no dead pixels, no lines, just pure bliss since April 2005.
 

ohcrap

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SteveMcQ said:
Marking for future reference.
If you mean that your post was to subscribe to this thread, you can do that under Thread Tools at the top of each thread page. :)
 

Temujin

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Have to give it to Apple. The airport fix came quite fast in my opion. You guys think they were expecting this problem, considering the fast fix?
 

matticus008

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Temujin said:
Have to give it to Apple. The airport fix came quite fast in my opion. You guys think they were expecting this problem, considering the fast fix?
They probably figured it out, since there's actually quite a lot that's new about the PowerBooks behind the scenes. It seems that the logic board is the first truly new one in a long time, and it wasn't available during the 10.4.3 development process, because it didn't exist in any finalized form. Apple generally does respond quickly to problems, and if it can fix them quickly, they do it. Some problems are not so easily solved or have no solution.

They can't get around the fact that aluminum is bad for wireless reception, so they just have to minimize its effects (plastic windows and software/hardware cheats wherever they can).
 

SteveMcQ

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ohcrap said:
If you mean that your post was to subscribe to this thread, you can do that under Thread Tools at the top of each thread page. :)
I never even noticed those. Thanks for the tip.
 

iEdd

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Aug 8, 2005
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Temujin said:
Thanks again for the link. I tried again without the update. Still didn’t work. Then I installed the update, and Bang!!! Zip!! it worked. Connected right away, with no problems at all.

Don't know about stability yet though.
Still a 'disappointed' switcher? ;) I think this is a lesson that apple tend to be snappy at fixing problems :)
 

Demon Hunter

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If the new 'Books have built-in Airport cards, that means no upgrading to the finalized 802.11n, right? Or could you use the PCMCIA card slot, so you would have two wireless chipsets? :confused:
 

caveman_uk

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dferrara said:
If the new 'Books have built-in Airport cards, that means no upgrading to the finalized 802.11n, right? Or could you use the PCMCIA card slot, so you would have two wireless chipsets? :confused:
AFAIK you can't get at the airport cards on the previous model powerbooks either as the keyboards aren't latched as they used to be. You have to take the whole machine apart. They did this as soon as the airport became part of the standard build on all machines.

My understanding is that the new powerbooks use a combined bluetooth/airport card but it is still a separate daughter card in the same way that the modem is. The connector may well have changed though.

When Apple changed to Airport Extreme they changed the connector and left users with no upgrade path other than buy a new machine so don't be surprised if they do it again. The difference this time is that removing the built in Airport card will be a real pain and it seemed that last time you had to make sure there was only one wireless card in the machine when you wanted to add a PCMCIA 802.11g card. This is hard to do when the built in card is not easy to get at.
 
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