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ikimasu

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Jan 31, 2010
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I think the biggest question for me is why they would not have said anything about it if there is going to be one. This picture does draw out that part of the still well. Although on other sections of the video it seems obvious there is nothing at that spot, which is the weird part (like when you see it from the side after he is sitting in the chair). Anyway, we'll see but I'm not holding my breath.
 

jav6454

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Nov 14, 2007
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Camera on an iPad is *very* plausible at this point. Here is why:

1. There were 3 iPads in the presentation
2. Pictures of repair parts all over the Internet from Apple Repair Centers
3. Steve's iPad showed a camera glimmer in the dead center of the portrait mode iPad.
4. SDK "Take a Photo" shots.
 

ikimasu

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Jan 31, 2010
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There were 3 iPads? What makes you say that? I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious. I didn't pay a ton of attention to everything.
 

jav6454

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Nov 14, 2007
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There were 3 iPads? What makes you say that? I'm not saying you're wrong, just curious. I didn't pay a ton of attention to everything.

Watch the video. When Steve introduced the iPad, he uncovered one on the couch. He then put it besides the couch, that is the iPad that showed the camera glimmer.

Then the 2nd iPad was shown when Steve proceeded to do the first demo, he uncovered the 2nd iPad on the table. That iPad can't be the first one because this iPad was connected via 30-pin connector to the main projector. Also, we don't see anyone running backstage to do so.

The 3rd iPad is the one the app developers used on the side stage.


Now, iPad's 2 & 3 show no glimmer, only iPad 1 does.
 

bbydon

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May 18, 2005
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You actually think steve had 3 ipads out there and one had a camera.
And he showed a crowd one with a camera and never mentioned it.
 

MacDawg

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Mar 20, 2004
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You actually think steve had 3 ipads out the and one had a camera.
Really? Really? And he showed a crowd one with a camera and never mentioned it.

There is no camera. Period.

It is the ultimate hiding place... plain sight

Woof, Woof - Dawg
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msduncan

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Jan 27, 2010
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I can't believe people are expending so much energy on trying to conjure a feature on a device which quitely honestly they wouldn't use much in the first place.

I have had a netbook for a YEAR and I've fired the camera up exactly once to see if it worked or not. Trust me guys... you AREN'T going to miss the camera when it's not there. And it's NOT going to be there.
 

lordhamster

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Jan 23, 2008
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I can't believe people are expending so much energy on trying to conjure a feature on a device which quitely honestly they wouldn't use much in the first place.

I have had a netbook for a YEAR and I've fired the camera up exactly once to see if it worked or not. Trust me guys... you AREN'T going to miss the camera when it's not there. And it's NOT going to be there.

hahah. Exactly. Once I had mine working, I had to explain to my parents how to work theirs. Two video chats later and I've never used the webcam again.
 

CylonGlitch

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Jul 7, 2009
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Obviously they had been playing with the idea of a camera. The fact that replacement parts show the location for a camera makes it obvious. Unless all those who have gotten the replacement parts are lying, but I don't see that as the case. BUT the doesn't mean the final product will have one. Most likely there was one in one during some prototype. It does seem logical that one of the devices Steve had on stage was a prototype, when designing things prototypes are often used for demos and other things.

Does this mean it will have a camera? No, not at all. Just means that they thought about it, built up some prototypes with it, and abandoned it for one reason or another -- no need to redesign everything, just remove it. BUT does this mean that there WON'T be a camera? No, not at all. The ones without the camera area in the video could be the older models; we don't know. Maybe they chose not to show it for one reason or another, like, oh say, the software wasn't ready?

We will not know until the first people get one. But I would guess that the first pads will NOT have a camera; although, it would be nice. . . I guess.
 

ikimasu

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Jan 31, 2010
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I personally can't imagine a camera mattering much either way. Maybe others would use it, but I don't even use the webcam on my desktop, so I can't see me using a camera on the iPad all that often. But I can see why others might want it. Still, I really doubt it's coming, at least on this first generation. But it wouldn't surprise me if it's left off altogether. I suppose we'll see in a few weeks.
 

Compile 'em all

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Apr 6, 2005
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So, where is a better one?

Otherwise, if this forum is hostile to newbies then I won't contribute in the future. I usually receive respect for my work.

Don't put too much effort posting on the forums here. AppleInsider or somethingawful have excellent forums and posters' IQ levels are well above avg. Here, not so much.
 

nihalz

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Mar 28, 2007
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if there really was something on the top, why didn't any of the bloggers who had hands on time with it after the keynote, notice it?
 

yodaxl7

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Jan 25, 2010
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If there is a cam, I want a "natal" like cam!!! Hand motion gesture would be awesome! Otherwise, meh!
 

Sketh

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Sep 14, 2007
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if there really was something on the top, why didn't any of the bloggers who had hands on time with it after the keynote, notice it?

If you've been tuning in with us, you'd notice that people are discussing how ONLY Steve Jobs iPad had the camera, and only the one he originally flashed to the crowd.

Otherwise there would be no debate.
 

CylonGlitch

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Jul 7, 2009
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if there really was something on the top, why didn't any of the bloggers who had hands on time with it after the keynote, notice it?

Because obviously there are ones with and ones without the camera, the press only got to see what Apple wanted them to see. Which ones are the final release? We don't know for sure... but I would guess without.
 

nihalz

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Mar 28, 2007
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u see thats why me is still a macrumors newbie :p
anyhow, why would jobs risk it? why couldnt he use the ipad that was shown to the press?
 

/dev/toaster

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Feb 23, 2006
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Apple would have announced a feature like this, there is no good reason they would hide it.

My guess is it was either removed at request of AT&T or it was removed due to cost.

Cost makes the most sense, they were trying to get it as low as possible.
 

Tanker-X

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Aug 5, 2002
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Another shot

Looks like a camera hole to me. Why put the light sensor dead center? I'm not suggesting the final one will have it, but sucks that apple would pull a dick move like that. You KNOW 6-8 months from release probably around Christmas 2010, apple will either quietly upgrade the unit or have a small announcement with other larger announcements adding the freaken camera that should have been there in the first place.


T_X:mad:
 

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greygray

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Oct 22, 2009
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Looks like a camera hole to me. Why put the light sensor dead center? I'm not suggesting the final one will have it, but sucks that apple would pull a dick move like that. You KNOW 6-8 months from release probably around Christmas 2010, apple will either quietly upgrade the unit or have a small announcement with other larger announcements adding the freaken camera that should have been there in the first place.


T_X:mad:

Same for the 1st gen iPhone which saw price drops and a 16GB model halfway through the refresh cycle.
 
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