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What i see in MAC is they compress memory while in windows it call cache memory,the concept quite diff.
The slownest may effect by
1. Network - > iCloud/Or Data Backup Provider. If you keep sync and have low network it will troublesome .
2. DISK SEARCH ->(SpotLight,Lightroom i assume caching a dungeon of image ) A external ssd can solve this issue.
3. Loading -> A sleep or close monitor can solve this issue, no need ssd.
I have the base line intel and not like you have the higher version. I have mention before, you need a minimum 16 GB ram .Just return it.
Not sure why I even bothered in the first place. All the fanboys giving you that garbage buying advice should have been ignored. Reread what I wrote. So far I have been 100% spot on. But since you don't listen, I'll just leave you with an I-told-you-so and you can proceed getting advice from this illustrious forum. I'm sure they won't steer you astray.
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Like some of the things you have said - in the same post, you can get people say this lower model will work and the other end - oh. you need the Mac Pro.... so trying to balance the 2 can be difficult. I see - only get SSD and others say they have never had issues with a fusion. With all the info I have been getting and writing down etc.... sometimes it gets overwhelming.
Here is what Adobe says you need for Photoshop CC
macOS
- Multicore Intel processor with 64-bit support
- macOS version 10.13 (High Sierra), macOS version 10.12 (Sierra), or Mac OS X version 10.11 (El Capitan)
- 2 GB or more of RAM (8 GB recommended)
- 4 GB or more of available hard-disk space for installation; additional free space required during installation (cannot install on a volume that uses a case-sensitive file system)
- 1024 x 768 display (1280x800 recommended) with 16-bit color and 512 MB or more of dedicated VRAM; 2 GB is recommended*
- OpenGL 2.0-capable system
- Internet connection and registration are necessary for required software activation, membership validation, and access to online services.**
2017 - 21.5"
Quad core i5 - 3.4 ghz
8gb ram
1TB drive (I have not put a whole lot on it)
4k display
Radeon Pro 560 graphics processor with up to 4GB video memory
So by the specs, this computer meets ALL of their recommended specs (not just the minimum). So I was asking why it seemed so slow. If there was something wrong with the computer....
I did do PRAM reset? on the MBP I sent back. It did help with the ram. I just read that someone did the same thing with a new 21.5" he was having problems with. For the amount of money I spent on this computer - I could go get a very spec'd out windows computer. It might be easier than dealing with all of this on a Mac.... But I was wanting to be able to have everything sync. Yesterday, I was looking at something on my phone. When I got home, I was going to look up the website, for what I needed on my iMac to get what I needed to save. I remembered that I could have the iMac open it up from my phone - that was so cool and easy.
I was just looking above - one said, my RAM is fine another says I need 16gb. I do think I need 16gb ....
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...are you trying to write some anti-mac Op Ed or youtube video or something?
The chances that something is wrong (hardware or software) with a brand new mac are tiny. Did you try calling apple support?
I think the 21.5" iMac uses a 5400 RPM HDD which is going to be slow in any system, and people are quite frustrated about this. What droog wrote is right. You pay a premium for macs on the low-end (hardware-wise it evens out at the top end). This is why I put up my recommendation which you ignored.
The chances that something is wrong (hardware or software) with a brand new mac are tiny. Did you try calling apple support?
I think the 21.5" iMac uses a 5400 RPM HDD which is going to be slow in any system, and people are quite frustrated about this. What droog wrote is right. You pay a premium for macs on the low-end (hardware-wise it evens out at the top end). This is why I put up my recommendation which you ignored.
OSX not windows !pronto. Just return it if possible. The bigger your art work ai file, psd file the more ram usage.
8GB recommended for the application only not operating system . So 4 GB system + 8 GB = 12 GB . You open a few website, email and so on finishing the rest of 4 GB.
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I bought base line 21.5. I bought external usb ssd just for purpose compiling. The operating system okay in 8 GB but it really worst on my base mac mini 4 GB. You survive to do work, but horrible in meaning way waiting.
I don't get WHY Adobe would NOT put that in their recommendations - who is going to have no OS???
This is getting frustrating - I have Safari full screen. SO the dock does not show. So sometimes (or right now a lot) of the times when I drag the mouse to the bottom of the page, the dock does not show up. A few minutes ago, I did command tab to get out of it... I have also seen a long delay opening the menus at the top showing up too.
I did mention in a post somewhere on here - that right after I wrote about increasing my budget, we needed to replace our AC unit. So that kind of changed things a bit.
I have been pretty much without a computer since August - it has been frustrating at times as I have tried to figure out what I want to do. Especially with entering a new OS. I want to use my iPad Pro more - so that is some of the dilemma. If I go with a Mac with ALL the specs - I won't be using my IPP as much. I AM planning on getting the new 12.9" when it comes out. The other day, I needed to print out the return label for that MBP -- and I had to use my Mother's printer. Then this weekend, I tried connecting my printer to this iMac and it did not work either.... I DO a lot of printing for school and crafts / business. So when Best Buy had a 13" (2017) MBP on Deal of the Day - I looked at them seriously and decided between the MBP and this iMac (which looks like it meets the specs for PS) - I went with the better iMac. It was about the same price I would have spent either way.
SO before, I took it back to BB - I just wanted to make sure that it was the iMac I purchased and NOT user error. I have NEVER used a Mac before. My FIL has only had mac's, so I have seen his. So I know there is a learning curve. My hands have not gotten use to where the command key is compared to ctrl on a PC - it seems weird next to the space bar....
This is getting frustrating - I have Safari full screen. SO the dock does not show. So sometimes (or right now a lot) of the times when I drag the mouse to the bottom of the page, the dock does not show up. A few minutes ago, I did command tab to get out of it... I have also seen a long delay opening the menus at the top showing up too.
I did mention in a post somewhere on here - that right after I wrote about increasing my budget, we needed to replace our AC unit. So that kind of changed things a bit.
I have been pretty much without a computer since August - it has been frustrating at times as I have tried to figure out what I want to do. Especially with entering a new OS. I want to use my iPad Pro more - so that is some of the dilemma. If I go with a Mac with ALL the specs - I won't be using my IPP as much. I AM planning on getting the new 12.9" when it comes out. The other day, I needed to print out the return label for that MBP -- and I had to use my Mother's printer. Then this weekend, I tried connecting my printer to this iMac and it did not work either.... I DO a lot of printing for school and crafts / business. So when Best Buy had a 13" (2017) MBP on Deal of the Day - I looked at them seriously and decided between the MBP and this iMac (which looks like it meets the specs for PS) - I went with the better iMac. It was about the same price I would have spent either way.
SO before, I took it back to BB - I just wanted to make sure that it was the iMac I purchased and NOT user error. I have NEVER used a Mac before. My FIL has only had mac's, so I have seen his. So I know there is a learning curve. My hands have not gotten use to where the command key is compared to ctrl on a PC - it seems weird next to the space bar....
...and Photoshop will indeed run with that spec. That's all "recommended specs" guarantee - especially for pro software like Photoshop that can be used for anything from cropping a <1 megapixel screenshot (I've done that quite happily on a 2010 Core2 MacBook Pro with a mechanical HD) to compositing dozens of layers of huge, print-quality images with complex effects (which takes you into Mac Pro/iMac Pro territory).
Although some posters have been exaggerating, your iMac really isn't a huge upgrade (others might put it more strongly...) from your Asus and, if you're used to a 256GB SSD on any OS, anything with a mechanical HD (and not a very fast one, at that) is going to feel sluggish by comparison. That gets compounded if you run out of RAM and the system starts swapping to disc: having an SSD takes the sting out of that.
Bottom line: If you want a Mac get one with an SSD - or at the very least the 2TB or 3TB Fusion (which have larger SSD components - but preferably not). Also, although you might not need more than 8GB RAM, if you plan on doing anything more ambitious than "office productivity" its not worth the risk - either bite the bullet and pay for 16 or get the 27" iMac with 8GB (which is officially user-upgradeable and easy to do).
Oh, and nobody here knows if/when either the iMac or the Mac Mini will be updated. It a pity that you got the impression that it might happen in September (that was never on the cards - the September events are typically exclusively about mobile devices and are inevitably followed by "Wah! Where are the new Macs?" posts every. darned. year.) An October launch of new Macs is plausible - that's about it. Rumors are fun, but they're just that - Rumors.
So something you said, clicked. I have thought of my files as not huge.... I design digital scrapbook kits, the papers can be about 150 mb files as a PSD. So 12x12 at 300 ppi and maybe a dozen layers of textures that I change the layer blending mode. I also have a QC action that I have created and others that I have purchased. I do have some that are quite complex, but I am using them on smaller items.
But by what I listed, do I need a Mac Pro or iMac Pro?
But by what I listed, do I need a Mac Pro or iMac Pro?