thinkdesign said:Does this affect the "WHEN?" question?
There is a rumor saying that the next Macbook update will stick to C2D and 320m. Does this mean MBA will have the same fate?
I, too, hope that we get a major revision of the MBA because I fear a modest revision would result in an MBA still too resource poor to allow me to run all the OS X and Windows apps I now run on my MBP. Alas, all we can do is wait and see. The upside to all of this is that it keeps us off the streets and gives us something to talk about.We can't say for certain. I'm personally really hoping for a major revision regardless of cost, but would be happy with a minor update. I wouldn't be that surprised either way. And either way, we win
I think you may be right that the MBA would sell decently if appropriately updated. I do not currently own an MBA but, as noted in earlier posts, will buy one as long as it is updated sufficiently to give it the power to run the OS X and Windows apps I currently run on my MBP.I really don't think Apple will EOL the Air for at least 2 or 3 reasons.
1. they will sell like hot cakes, albeit in a smaller volume than a MB or a MBPro.
Apple do their research and given it's a 'niche' market (isn't everything these days!) they would know what percentage of current Air owners will update within a month or so (around 80% methinks; include me here ) and they would know how many other punters would favor a stunningly spec'd Air over the alternatives.
3. add your reasons here. (I'm noticing an increase on eBay for example of the numbers of MBAirs up for sale)
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Does this affect the "WHEN?" question? I needed to buy in aproximately* January, but MacRumors's Buying Guide and then the many blogs' rumors of a Jan./Feb./March/April debut persuaded me to wait. But the wait for Godot has now stretched so long, it seems that probably I should've bought a new or refurbed SSD-120 model in January. I need it yesterday. /// So, could someone please just boil this ULV-7 rumor down to -- How does this affect the date-forecast on when 'Air' likely gets refreshed? /// Have ALL the parts for this ULV-7 version been available for enough weeks, that there COULD be a warehouse full of these Rev. D Airs already built, just waiting to drop at or before WWDC ? Thanks. /////// (* I know "aproximately" sounds odd, but I won't bore everyone with the details of one person's career-changing calendar.)
I, too, hope that we get a major revision of the MBA because I fear a modest revision would result in an MBA still too resource poor to allow me to run all the OS X and Windows apps I now run on my MBP. Alas, all we can do is wait and see. The upside to all of this is that it keeps us off the streets and gives us something to talk about.
still reckon there are new models being released 18.May and 8.June as per my previous post in another thread.
we now know about the impending MB refresh, so I'd say that'll be the 18.May release.
thus, 8.June is my tip for an MBA refresh.
I really don't think Apple will EOL the Air for at least 2 or 3 reasons.
Selling them off after buying an iPad perhaps? That is what I did!
Is there any reason why a 15" and 17" MBA have not been released? Is it possible that by increasing size (not thickness or relative weight), that a dedicated card and core i-series would make sense? I guess the MBA's would mirror the MBP's in this scenario where the 13" models stick with c2d and the bigger models go with the newer intel chips.
Would people even be interested in a 15" or 17" MBA? I guess I should make a new thread with a poll to find out, but the very prospect has me thinking of what my current MBA would be like with a bigger screen.
I think we are more likely to get 15" and 17" MBPs that are thinner like the MacBook Air. The NON-Super Drive is about worthless. Apple needs to either adopt BluRay or get rid of the NSD and use the space to thin the MBPs or use it for something productive and worthwhile. I don't care which way they go for the MBPs right now, but in the long run even Blu Ray is worthless. Digital is the way to go, and a thumb drive can be used to sell applications in much smaller boxes wasting less materials and being much greener. Plus, then the space of the drive isn't used. Apple needs to start selling its apps right on USB thumb drives if it wants to eliminate optical drives, and it makes a lot of sense. I just don't understand the Non-Super Drive.
I don't know if a 15" MBA or a 15" MBP without an optical drive is more sellable? I would guess a 15" MBP without an optical drive would still be thicker, but thinness isn't the best part of the MBA... the weight (or lack thereof) is the super amazing feature of the MBA.
Who would buy a 15" MBA? I have thought a lot about it, but I need the ultraportable 13" MBA because I travel frequently. A 15" MBA would be difficult to open in an airline seat. However, a 15" MBA would allow the space for dedicated graphics, but that might be possible in a 13" MBA - I guess we will see soon if that's possible. I really like having just one computer, and the capability for me to connect the 13" MBA to a 24" LED ACD gives me ultraportability on the go, and complete perfection of an instant desktop solution when at the desk.
So I believe I am out of the 15" MBA if the footprint were similar to the current 15" MBP, however, there's a solution. There is so much wasted space in the bezels of Mac notebooks. Why not take the display right to the edge with just a 1/8" thick "bead" of aluminum around the display? That way a 14.9" display would fit in the current footprint of the 13" MBA. That is the complete solution. I would LOVE this solution, and especially with an HD display all the way up to 1920 x 1200 resolution.
So a 15" MBA becomes the same basic footprint as the 13" MBA, and the 13" MBA gets a smaller footprint by reducing the bezel and wasted space on sides of keyboard. Doesn't this make more sense?
Not much how many lightpeak devices do you own versus usb? I'm so tired about people expecting lightpeak in every device now, how many of you need the bandwidth? A gigabit port would be more useful.Perfect! That get's my vote for the ultimate 13" MBA:
- overclocked ULV Core i7 with disabled GMA
- dedicated graphics card from ATI (or maybe a custom nVidia solution)
- the new Intel SSD's that are coming out in 2011 which offer "double the storage for the same price"...320GB at the current 160's price...yes please!
- 4GB RAM
- improved screen size with bezel replaced by aluminum "bead" allowing a 14.9" display HD display with a resolution of 1920 x 1200
- Lightpeak port(s)
- Glass trackpad
So how much would you pay for that MBA?
I agree that more RAM is far more important in any updated MBA than either the CPU or GPU. I also agree that the size of the SSD would be another vitally important consideration. Like you, part of me wants an update next Tuesday, while another wishes that Apple would wait until WWDC and announce a really dramatic upgrade.Come on, a Core 2 Duo at 2.13 GHz de-throttled with an Nvidia 320m isn't going to be "too limited" in any way if it has 4 GB of RAM or better yet two RAM slots. The CPU and GPU are not the issues. The only issues for the vast majority of the buyers are most importantly the lack of RAM followed closely by a larger SSD. People can be happy with 4 GB of RAM and a 192 GB SSD... people would be ecstatic for two RAM slots for 8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD. Hell, Apple wouldn't need to upgrade the CPU or Nvidia 9400m to make it a huge seller.
Apple said:The new MacBook Air
More storage. Faster graphics.
If you Google that phrase you'll see it's just the headline from the 2008 introduction of the MacBook Air rev B/C.(in an apparently slip-up, which has gone largely unnoticed) if you scroll to the bottom of this page (http://www.apple.com/uk/airportextreme/features/frequency.html) Apple themselves already have a link advertising the "new" MBA.
If you Google that phrase you'll see it's just the headline from the 2008 introduction of the MacBook Air rev B/C.
Not much how many lightpeak devices do you own versus usb? I'm so tired about people expecting lightpeak in every device now, how many of you need the bandwidth? A gigabit port would be more useful.
The thing is LightPeak WILL be ultimately be infinitely faster as it's already amazingly faster than USB 3.0, but the technology can be written to go far faster than it already is. The idea of fiber is almost unlimited in terms of speed comparison to USB or any other port/cable technology available today.
The thing is we will all have USB 3.0 for awhile for input devices like keyboards and mice. However, even those are going wireless. For drives, displays, printers, network connection, and etc, LightPeak is the universal standard that will do all of these devices instead of needing a separate type of port for each technology.
A Mac in 2011 will probably have one USB 3.0, one mini Display Port, and one LightPeak. A Mac in 2013 will probably have three LightPeak ports. There will probably be a connector to use USB via a LightPeak cable to converter.
This.
Since space, and more specifically room for ports, is extremely constrained, the flexibility gained from what LightPeak claims to be able to do is extremely valuable. Since Apple and Intel are working together on developing this technology, I just saw it as the logical choice.