Probably yes because then all iMacs would then use the same socket (LGA 1156) and I can't see why Apple wouldn't use Clarkdale...
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Probably yes because then all iMacs would then use the same socket (LGA 1156) and I can't see why Apple wouldn't use Clarkdale...
based on both the refresh cycle and the problems apple has had to solve with these current 27's, I would doubt we'll see any reasonable upgrades before this fall. There's no point for updating so soon, they have their best selling desktop ever, and can barely keep up. Apple also has a tradition of being "behind" with their GPUs, especially in iMacs. for everyone hoping for their 5xxx GPUs, it may not hurt to buy a current iMac and sell it in a year to upgrade to the next imac release, as these imacs do hold their value well and will still be in demand at that time
Argh, unfortunately I agree.
I agree as well - but I have a feeling it could be a while before USB 3 finds its way into iMacs.
i guess you can wait another 2 years if not longer before you see that on a imac, as all these three would sky rocket the price for a imac beyond the £2000 mark and push it closer to £3000 , as there is only space for one harddrive inside and nobody would accept a single ssd with only 64gb ,i guess 500gb is a must in a modern computer, otherwise you would need to invest in another external drive and clutter up your desk , and the whole point of a AIO is a clutter free desk ,for the other things it would need another back for the connections and rearranging internal organs of the imac and another logicboard .....
another thing osx does not support usb3.0 as far as i know , so it would need a update of osx too on top of the above mentioned things
Since the iMac only supports one HDD it's not possible (for me at least) to get all my stuff, and many others stuff on a single 2 TB
Therefore the implementation of eSata or USB 3.0 would be the least one would expect on a great system as the top of the line iMac, to get a fast connection to external HDD cabinets and/or external HDD's.
USB 2.0 or Firewire simply does not cut it.
When the external HDD's are in place, one could easily live with a 64 GB super-fast SSD for the operating system.
I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way, so it has to be profitable for Apple to do what I've said.
EDIT: Probably not an accurate source, but interesting nonetheless.
http://macosrumors.com/2009/11/28/whats-next-for-imac-mac-pro/macosrumors said:
at this point, with all of the problems they have been having I think it will be safer just to wait till the next refresh...
I REALLY hope they add hdmi in the mix and a more potent video card.
that would absolutely be fantastic.. oh yeah and if it comes around September, maybe a student discount with ipod?? haha
I REALLY hope they add hdmi in the mix and a more potent video card.
that would absolutely be fantastic.. oh yeah and if it comes around September, maybe a student discount with ipod?? haha
Apple will wait until the 5xxx Radeons drop in price, they are only going to really give benefits to gamers, who Apple don't care about, and 3D modelers who Apple want to sell Mac Pros to.
Basically I want them to update the CPUs before I have to go to college in the Fall. Seems like the absolute latest they would do this would be WWDC. So late June.
I'm interested as to when the next iMac revision will be out.
I was going to purchase a new Mac Mini but instead am contemplating splurging and picking up the iMac or a Macbook Pro.
Speaking of the iMac, does anyone think we'll see a new form factor/aesthetic change to the machine this year? The previous incarnation's (iMac G5/first intel imac) look lasted for about 3 years, so basing off that, 2010 seems about right.
Not that I purchase Mac's based on their looks, but it adds to the overall experience, imo.
I was going to purchase a new Mac Mini but instead am contemplating splurging and picking up the iMac or a Macbook Pro.
Speaking of the iMac, does anyone think we'll see a new form factor/aesthetic change to the machine this year? The previous incarnation's (iMac G5/first intel imac) look lasted for about 3 years, so basing off that, 2010 seems about right.
Not that I purchase Mac's based on their looks, but it adds to the overall experience, imo.
Assuming they are talking about mobility cards... couldn't they be talking about going from the 4850 mobility to 5750 desktop?
The mobility 5850 and desktop 5750 are similar in performance I think.
also: "All in all, it is good to know that Apple won't be more than a year late with their GPUs incorporated in their otherwise excellently designed products." >>"won't be more than a year late"
Imo this implies that it's the desktop 5750 which came out in september 09. Seeing as they reckon it will be refreshed in June the statement wouldn't make that much sense if they were talking about the mobile 5850 which would obviously not be more than a year late.
I too am waiting for the next refresh. I don't care when it comes this year, i just want it to come THIS year. The reason i'm not buying one now is because:
- The 21.5" doesn't have quadcore
- The 21.5" doesn't have a -pretty- decent GPU
Those are the only reasons.. I'm not looking for that huge 27" beast to sit on my desk. I want a 21.5" and right now, it's a shame the smaller model doesn't get the same goodies as the big one. So Apple, give me a decent GPU (ATI 5***) and a quadcore in a small 21.5" package, and i'll jump!
- The 21.5" doesn't have quadcore
- The 21.5" doesn't have a -pretty- decent GPU
Those are the only reasons.. I'm not looking for that huge 27" beast to sit on my desk. I want a 21.5" and right now, it's a shame the smaller model doesn't get the same goodies as the big one. So Apple, give me a decent GPU (ATI 5***) and a quadcore in a small 21.5" package, and i'll jump!
Desktop 5750 has maximum power consumption of 86W while mobile 5850 has maximum of 39W so desktop 5750 is more than twice as hot as mobile 5850. There is also no space for desktop GPU in iMac. Desktop 5750 is possible in Mac Pro but I doubt we'll see a desktop GPU in iMac unless Apple decides to redesign it again.
hmm we'll have to wait and see what they do with laptops. Actually you're right, having the mobile 5750 in laptops makes more sense than the desktop version in iMacs. In the article he doesn't really distinguish between them.
All Apple (or any other business model) cares about is profit margin. And Apple is the leader in the computer industry in profit margins.
Why do you think they always use a last gen graphics chip? Because they can get it much cheaper.
Same thing with the "base 21.5 and base 27 imac intel processor" They are using Core2 chips when they could easily be using at minimal core i5 desktop chips.
USB 3.0. Maybe it'll be available very soon with Apple since it will be cheap to implement.
SSD. Forget it in the iMac for the time being. Apple would need to offer at least a 500GB SSD in a desktop model. I believe the 500GB SSD goes for over $1600 and the 250GB SSD goes for over $800. While a 1TB regular hard drive goes for less than $100.
True prices will drop. But for the time being, it's highly unlikely you will get anything other than USB 3.0.
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All I'm asking is to have it as an OPTION. And if it's only that, an option, who cares about price? Just like the option to get 16 Gigs of RAM
I know many professionals that went for the 27" and a SSD would really boost performance.
It's just silly if Apple's only going to target non-professionals.
They won't lose anything by merely having it as an option imo.
All I'm asking is to have it as an OPTION. And if it's only that, an option, who cares about price? Just like the option to get 16 Gigs of RAM
I know many professionals that went for the 27" and a SSD would really boost performance.
It's just silly if Apple's only going to target non-professionals.
They won't lose anything by merely having it as an option imo.
Good question
I've been wondering about the next iMac refresh since all the issues starting cropping up. And I've been waiting to buy an iMac since Jan 2009.
I decided on Sunday to bite the bullet and just DO IT. I'm now in waiting mode.. my 27" iMac i7 is due to arrive on Friday at the earliest.
I figure if there's something wrong with it it'll ruin my first iMac experience and it'll have to go back.. but at least I'll feel better having taken the risk
On the other hand it might be PERFECT, and I'll have it NOW!
I've been wondering about the next iMac refresh since all the issues starting cropping up. And I've been waiting to buy an iMac since Jan 2009.
I decided on Sunday to bite the bullet and just DO IT. I'm now in waiting mode.. my 27" iMac i7 is due to arrive on Friday at the earliest.
I figure if there's something wrong with it it'll ruin my first iMac experience and it'll have to go back.. but at least I'll feel better having taken the risk
On the other hand it might be PERFECT, and I'll have it NOW!
In my opinion, there is no way we'll see a casing/form factor. Apple just completely redesigned the iMac and without a doubt, brushed aluminum is the style...
I don't think we'll see a major aesthetic change for at least a couple years.
Bryan
Did you miss the last iMac update?
The iMac was just redesigned.
Considering Apple just modified the design, I agree. I doubt we'll see any change for years.
i did hear rumors, and I think there's an alleged prototype photo (may even be from MR, maybe appleinsider?) of a mac mini sporting an HDMI output. Perhaps since so many people have been using mac minis as media servers, they're finally caving to logic on at least one connectivity issue? I don't know that there's any concrete evidence, but the mac mini would be a great start for HDMI on apples. Though I doubt MBPs will see it anytime soon because a. the large space it would take up and b. the clunky port would throw off the aesthetic of the MBP that apple cares so much about. Though MDP->HDMI adapters for output are cheap and plentiful these days. Who knows about HDMI on imacs anytime soon..
Did you miss the last iMac update?
The iMac was just redesigned.
Considering Apple just modified the design, I agree. I doubt we'll see any change for years.
Making a model with a larger screen ≠ redesigned
iMac G3 to iMac G4 (2002) and iMac G4 to iMac G5 (2004) were redesigns.
iMac core duo to core 2 duo was a small redesign (2007). (went from plastic to aluminum)
24" to 27" was just making a new model.
Apple did make the chin smaller... There won't be redesign anytime soon. Now almost all products are aluminum so would make no sense to go back to plastic or smth. Also, IMO 21.5", 27" was a redesign
