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I doubt it, Apple usually goes in a direction and doesn't go back and they wont do both cause Apple doesn't give options. If anything I believe Face ID will get better rather than Apple abandoning it altogether.

Usually true. However moving devices to multiple security options is likely the future as more and more things are on our devices. And Apple has shown that security is highly important to them.
 
The tech is not even close to being ready and Apple won't use it until it is. 2019? Maybe - Probably not.....

I'd say there is a 25% chance of it happening as I believe Apple made the decision to go all in on faceID and I don't see them adding a 2nd authentication factor. I believe they'll stick with faceID for the foreseeable future but that's just my personal belief.
 
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So you need to look at your screen to place your finger in the correct spot to wait for authentication, then swipe up. By the time you do all this, Face ID would already be done with. There is no point to on screen Touch ID. Face ID is already better and will only improve.
 
So you need to look at your screen to place your finger in the correct spot to wait for authentication, then swipe up. By the time you do all this, Face ID would already be done with. There is no point to on screen Touch ID. Face ID is already better and will only improve.

What if you don't need to swipe up? I'd imagine they'd have it like pre x phones. Raise to wake or even tap to wake for notifications and then rest your finger to scan/unlock straight to homescreen.
 
What if you don't need to swipe up? I'd imagine they'd have it like pre x phones. Raise to wake or even tap to wake for notifications and then rest your finger to scan/unlock straight to homescreen.

You'd still have to look at your screen to know where to put your finger. Face ID is still better (they could even add what you mention and go right to the home screen).
 
You'd still have to look at your screen to know where to put your finger. Face ID is still better (they could even add what you mention and go right to the home screen).

Most complaints about faceid (other than the angle issues) would seemingly be solved by removing the swipe up. Which has nothing to do with the tech, just a decision by Apple. Don’t people want to see if they have notifications though?
 
Because it simply is more secure, can’t fight the math on it.
This is as vague as I could possibly imagine. Surely, Apple says that. And Face ID does not surpass Touch ID in every way. EVERY WAY.
 
So you need to look at your screen to place your finger in the correct spot to wait for authentication, then swipe up. By the time you do all this, Face ID would already be done with. There is no point to on screen Touch ID. Face ID is already better and will only improve.

I was a Face ID hater once.

And then I used it. Took all of 10 minutes to get it.

It’s one of those features you really have to use in order to understand.
 
it won't happen on the flagship phones. It might return on an SE or a more budget minded X design, but not the high end models.

Agree, though you could say that it's not "returning" to the SE or SE2 - just not going away.

On a flagship model? - no way. You will find the TouchID sensor right on top of the 3.5mm headphone jack. ;)
 
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I really hope this is true. I don't see them fitting a fingerprint sensor on the 5.8 version. But I can see room for one on the 6.5. It was a bad decision for them to get rid if it and only rely on face ID. Especially when face ID still has so many issues.

A pretty consistent experience I have with faceid is that it fails 9/10 times when laying down in the dark and about 50% of the time when I don't have the phone directly in front of me.

Also, I'd like to mention that raise to wake unintentionally activates the faceid unlock process which causes unintentional unlock failures.

It's not as perfect as people say it is. It wasn't designed to be as fast or convenient as the fingerprint scanner IMO.
 
I can buy 11 different iDevices today that have fingerprint readers on them. They are far from dead. Dying? Perhaps. Dead? No.

At the risk of somewhat contradicting what I just wrote, I do wonder whether there won't be an iPhone 9, as successor to the 8 - a final TouchID phone. I wouldn't go so far as to predict it, but it might not be crazy...one last hurrah for the iPhone 6-family iPhones.
 
However, after using faceID and the new gestures for 3 days and counting, I honestly do not miss either and faceID works great, even on my ugly mug!

If I had to choose between faceid or home button with gestures I'd stick with the latter. The gestures improves the UX A LOT more than the faceid does. Annoying that apple purposely leaves the gestures disabled on ALL other touchscreen apple devices.
 
Usually true. However moving devices to multiple security options is likely the future as more and more things are on our devices. And Apple has shown that security is highly important to them.
It is but adding a backup/extra option of security instead of improving something that they state is more secure than Touch ID or other Android options would seem like a backwards move and it would feel like they don’t have faith in Face ID but I do see where you’re coming from.
 
The fact that you and your girlfriend don't like TouchID does not mean it barely works. You should have bought a phone with the features you like. They are available.
My girlfriend and I love Touch ID. Not Face ID. And no they do not make a edge to edge iPhone with Touch ID or that would’ve been what we would’ve bought. They make an iPhone 8 that has the same damn design for the last 4 years. And like I stated several times I love the iPhone X just hate the Face ID. And said if they bring the Touch ID back I’d be glad to slam this sob into the ground and go buy one with a unlocking feature that works. I did buy this X and I hope Apple loses a bunch of money over it and the next one that comes out if it just has Face ID. Jmo tho.
 
My girlfriend and I love Touch ID. Not Face ID. And no they do not make a edge to edge iPhone with Touch ID or that would’ve been what we would’ve bought. They make an iPhone 8 that has the same damn design for the last 4 years. And like I stated several times I love the iPhone X just hate the Face ID. And said if they bring the Touch ID back I’d be glad to slam this sob into the ground and go buy one with a unlocking feature that works. I did buy this X and I hope Apple loses a bunch of money over it and the next one that comes out if it just has Face ID. Jmo tho.

I continue to be interested in how different peoples' experiences of FaceID and TouchID are. Personally, I found FaceID very accurate but also awkward, and many of the gestures made life just a little harder, not easier, than on the "classic" iPhones. TouchID currently works more easily (but not more accurately) for me, so I'm waiting for Gen 2 FaceID, hopefully with a lot of iOS UI tweaks.

But...I predict you'll see TouchID on an iPhone with edge-to-edge display right about the same time you see a 3.5mm jack on the same phone and when Apple brings back DVD drives and SD card slots on MacBooks. Apple is really obstinate...
 
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I continue to be interested in how different peoples' experiences of FaceID and TouchID are. Personally, I found FaceID very accurate but also awkward, and many of the gestures made life just a little harder, not easier, than on the "classic" iPhones. TouchID currently works more easily (but not more accurately) for me, so I'm waiting for Gen 2 FaceID, hopefully with a lot of iOS UI tweaks.

But...I predict you'll see TouchID on an iPhone with edge-to-edge display right about the same time you see a 3.5mm jack on the same phone and when Apple brings back DVD drives and SD card slots on MacBooks. Apple is really obstinate...
Yeah and that may be the reason I pick the note 9 next year. We will see. I think Apple will lose a lot of business over this Face ID. As you can tell the 8 and 8 plus outsold the X by a lot.
 
Yeah and that may be the reason I pick the note 9 next year. We will see. I think Apple will lose a lot of business over this Face ID. As you can tell the 8 and 8 plus outsold the X by a lot.

How do you know this? Apple doesn’t release sales figures for individual phones and even if true you are taking 2 phones compared to 1 and have more than a month extra of sales.
 
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